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Is this joke sick, or is it just me?

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Quote by Dave__Notts
Humour is a personal opinion. Why should we dictate to others what they should think. Sick jokes have been around from day one..........how many laugh at You've Been Framed?
It is still laughing at other peoples expense. Some are more sick than others, but most humour is always at the expense of others.
I agree with the people who said if it is not funny to you.......then don't laugh and walk away. That will tell them what you thought of their humour and they may not say things like that to you again.
But don't tell people what they should find funny.........as it is one of the last things that the goverment has not regulated on us yet.
Dave_Notts

Humour is a personal thing and I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should be told what you can laugh at.
The point is whether you should share sick humour with people where you suspect that they will be outraged. The person who told the joke certainly knew it was sick and expected flak.
Bad i know
gets ready for the abuse !!!

I am not particularly politically correct, but after watching the scenes on TV, I do not find the deaths of nearly a quarter of a million people at all humorous, especially less than a month after the event and it doesn't compare to You've Been Framed, where they clearly state that nobody has been seriously harmed.
Quote by VenusnMars

smile do we need to draw aline, if it aint funny to you don,t laugh wink

In a word yes. If it upsets people then take some responsibility for that. Oh and :wink: rolleyes
Venusxxx
:wink: :roll: wern,t me that told it confused: I can find humor in almost everything,some folk can,t, but would not tell somebody they can,t find something funny,if i don,t find it funny I don,t laugh :roll: :wink: kiss
Quote by northwest-cpl
I am not particularly politically correct, but after watching the scenes on TV, I do not find the deaths of nearly a quarter of a million people at all humorous, especially less than a month after the event and it doesn't compare to You've Been Framed, where they clearly state that nobody has been seriously harmed.

Whether harmed, hurt or killed is always at others expense. Comparissons to this subject will always bring out someone who knows some experience worse than the other.
There is a thread being run on this page about people who have killed themselves in stupid ways............but people......even those that have made comment on this thread....have found it funny and it is laughing at others expense. A quarter of a million may be offensive to some...........just one death can have the same magnitude of offense to others. So if they found this thread offensive, why have they not found the other offensive. All those that died in that thread are brothers, fathers or sons of someone.
The comparisson to You've Been Framed is valid, where I do not believe watching children, and sometimes toddlers, being filmed where they hurt themselves and are clearly in distress as being humourous. That is why I exercise my right to turn the TV off. As I said earlier, exercise your right to not laugh and walk away............they will get the message.
Dave_Notts
Quote by johnneuk1

smile do we need to draw aline, if it aint funny to you don,t laugh wink

In a word yes. If it upsets people then take some responsibility for that. Oh and :wink: rolleyes
Venusxxx
:wink: :roll: wern,t me that told it confused: I can find humor in almost everything,some folk can,t, but would not tell somebody they can,t find something funny,if i don,t find it funny I don,t laugh :roll: :wink: kiss
I never for once suggested you had cracked the joke. I was answering your question about drawing a line. Whilst I realise that it is not my right to tell a person whether or not they should find something funny, I also realise that it is my right to tell someone if I find something offensive. A considerate person would take this on board, and an intelligent and considerate person would have considered this possibility before sharing such a joke in a public area.
Dave, a TV is another matter altogether. It is designed to reach out to a wide audiance, and has guidelines in place to accomodate people who may find some things offensive, like the Watershed and the off button. People know this in advance. The incident in the chatroom concerned a tragedy which is so raw, that the person who cracked the joke was well aware of how offensive it was, it doesn`t take a genius, but they continued to do so anyway. Lack of consideration. The people who then criticised those who exercised thier right to say they found it offensive also showed a lack of consideration.
Venusxxx
Quote by johnneuk1
Ok so where do we draw the line then?
Holocaust?
9/11?
Does time dim the memory?
Are gas chamber gags funny 60 years later?
ILb :love:

smile do we need to draw aline, if it aint funny to you don,t laugh wink
:wink: rolleyes wern,t question soz was statatement :roll: :wink:
bloody thing won,t delete again mad
It certainly doesn`t read as a statement, no matter how you juggle it! confused
Ok, I exercised my right to disagree with your `statement` lol :moon:
Venusxxx

Wtf! I think I better log off before I get myself banned.
"youve been framed"/250,000 at least, killed in a matter of hours?
I give up ,I fucking GIVE UP
This is just mad
Lb
There are far worse jokes about the Indonesian disaster than this (this is not an excuse for you to PM me to find out what they are). Why do people laugh at sick jokes? Perhaps it is a contradiction to people's own sense of morality, or maybe it's because something that is forbidden or frowned upon triggers that shock factor inside your brain. Either way, sometimes the sickest jokes are the funniest. Time placates morality, are Hitler jokes now funny "What's the difference between Paula Radcliff and Hitler?
At least Hitler tried to finish the race!" is that funny, well is it?
What about something more recent, Diana Goblin of Wales can she be ridiculed now she is cold
"Lady Diana and Pamela Anderson die on the same day, and they both go before to find out if they'll be admitted to heaven. Unfortunately, there's only one space left that day, so St. Peter must decide which of them gets in.
St. Peter asks Pamela if there's some particular reason why she should go to heaven, so she takes off her top and says, "Look at these. They're the most perfect ones God ever created, and I'm sure it will please him to be able to see them every day for eternity."
St. Peter thanks Pamela, and asks Diana the same question. Diana drops her skirt and panties, takes a bottle of Perrier out of her purse, shakes it up, and douches with it. St. Peter says, "OK, Diana, you may go in. Have a nice day."
Pamela is outraged. She screams, "What was that all about? I show you two of God's own creations, she performs a disgusting, pornographic act, and she gets in and I don't?!!!"
"Sorry, Pamela, but a royal flush beats a pair any day."
Personally I laugh at anything that is funny, although sometimes it can be a nervous laugh.
Quote by VenusnMars
Dave, a TV is another matter altogether. It is designed to reach out to a wide audiance, and has guidelines in place to accomodate people who may find some things offensive, like the Watershed and the off button. People know this in advance. The incident in the chatroom concerned a tragedy which is so raw, that the person who cracked the joke was well aware of how offensive it was, it doesn`t take a genius, but they continued to do so anyway. Lack of consideration. The people who then criticised those who exercised thier right to say they found it offensive also showed a lack of consideration.

I was not defending the place where they said the joke..........but humour in general.
If you experience a terrible situation then it will be raw and raw can be for the rest of your life. What time frame will make it less raw? People use humour to get through things that are unpleasant......this is their defence mechanism. I use sick humour to block out reality.........it is just a way of getting through life and not getting depressed on every unfortunate incident. If I didn't I would have joined the funny farm by now. I have witnessed scenes of genocide and its aftermath.......like some others on here. To get through I have to either make sense of it or laugh it off. Laughing helps block out the hurt.
Laughing is the best medicine sometimes.
Dave_Notts
venusnmars
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is the right of everyone to form ,and have there own opinion rolleyes :wink: kiss
may you form and have many more :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
So you don't want to hear the one about a Sri-Lankan, a deckchair and Helen MacArthur then ??
Quote by johnneuk1
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is the right of everyone to form ,and have there own opinion rolleyes :wink: kiss
may you form and have many more :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Just you try to stop me! :mrgreen: :rotflmao:
Venusxxx
Quote by Jon_TJ
So you don't want to hear the one about a Sri-Lankan, a deckchair and Helen MacArthur then ??

Now why didn`t I see you coming?! lol
In a word. NO!
Venusxxx
Quote by VenusnMars
wink
is the right of everyone to form ,and have there own opinion rolleyes :wink: kiss
may you form and have many more :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Just you try to stop me! :mrgreen: :rotflmao:
Venusxxx
:shock: thought never crossed my mind :!: free speach for all :!:
Quote by Lazeeboy

Wtf! I think I better log off before I get myself banned.
"youve been framed"/250,000 at least, killed in a matter of hours?
I give up ,I fucking GIVE UP
This is just mad
Lb

However, you find the Darwin Awards funny and add to the thread. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind but I can't figure out why dunno
If death is offensive to you then all death is offensive.....or not? Numbers are irrelevent. One or a million is still a tragedy
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts

Wtf! I think I better log off before I get myself banned.
"youve been framed"/250,000 at least, killed in a matter of hours?
I give up ,I fucking GIVE UP
This is just mad
Lb

However, you find the Darwin Awards funny and add to the thread. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind but I can't figure out why dunno
If death is offensive to you then all death is offensive.....or not? Numbers are irrelevent. One or a million is still a tragedy
Dave_Notts
I agree Dave, it should be, but isn`t. Human nature I suppose. Add stupidity to the pot (as in the Darwin awards), it suddenly becomes much easier to bear, even laugh at, which may give us a clue why these jokes come about.
Let me ask you a question. How many News items have you read and seen on TV which concern death have hit you as deeply as the Tsunami disaster? I bet many people here could ask themselves the same question, and agree that it`s very few, if any. Why? Perhaps it`s human nature to care more about the scale than the individual?
Venusxxx
Quote by Dave__Notts
I was not defending the place where they said the joke..........but humour in general.
If you experience a terrible situation then it will be raw and raw can be for the rest of your life. What time frame will make it less raw? People use humour to get through things that are unpleasant......this is their defence mechanism. I use sick humour to block out reality.........it is just a way of getting through life and not getting depressed on every unfortunate incident. If I didn't I would have joined the funny farm by now. I have witnessed scenes of genocide and its aftermath.......like some others on here. To get through I have to either make sense of it or laugh it off. Laughing helps block out the hurt.
Laughing is the best medicine sometimes.
Dave_Notts

Sorry Dave, I missed this, and yes, you said it so much better than I. kiss
Venusxxx
Quote by VenusnMars

Let me ask you a question. How many News items have you read and seen on TV which concern death have hit you as deeply as the Tsunami disaster? I bet many people here could ask themselves the same question, and agree that it`s very few, if any. Why? Perhaps it`s human nature to care more about the scale than the individual?
Venusxxx

I have just been reading a Jacobo Timerman book about how he was arrested in Argentina in 1977 and tortured for 2 years.
He made the point that there were even jokes made between the torturers and the tortured. This just goes to show that humour is independent of context or subject of the joke. If its funny its funny, even if you feel terrible at the same time for even hurumphing. These two emotions can exist at the same time.
Quote by VenusnMars

Wtf! I think I better log off before I get myself banned.
"youve been framed"/250,000 at least, killed in a matter of hours?
I give up ,I fucking GIVE UP
This is just mad
Lb

However, you find the Darwin Awards funny and add to the thread. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind but I can't figure out why dunno
If death is offensive to you then all death is offensive.....or not? Numbers are irrelevent. One or a million is still a tragedy
Dave_Notts
I agree Dave, it should be, but isn`t. Human nature I suppose. Add stupidity to the pot (as in the Darwin awards), it suddenly becomes much easier to bear, even laugh at, which may give us a clue why these jokes come about.
Let me ask you a question. How many News items have you read and seen on TV which concern death have hit you as deeply as the Tsunami disaster? I bet many people here could ask themselves the same question, and agree that it`s very few, if any. Why? Perhaps it`s human nature to care more about the scale than the individual?
Venusxxx
To answer the question truthfully..............It hasn't. It is yet another disaster that did not affect me, my family or anyone that I care about directly. I felt pity, same as I feel pity about the million German civilians and 60,000 Brithish civilians that died in the bombing campaign in WWII.
Callous? No..........just my way of coping. Life throws enough problems on us as individuals.............for me to try and take on others problems. I offer my heartfelt sympathy to the victims, as I do to other victims of other disasters........but I will get on with my life and very soon this will be another piece of history, just like all other pieces of history.
Dave_Notts
Quote by VenusnMars

I was not defending the place where they said the joke..........but humour in general.
If you experience a terrible situation then it will be raw and raw can be for the rest of your life. What time frame will make it less raw? People use humour to get through things that are unpleasant......this is their defence mechanism. I use sick humour to block out reality.........it is just a way of getting through life and not getting depressed on every unfortunate incident. If I didn't I would have joined the funny farm by now. I have witnessed scenes of genocide and its aftermath.......like some others on here. To get through I have to either make sense of it or laugh it off. Laughing helps block out the hurt.
Laughing is the best medicine sometimes.
Dave_Notts

Sorry Dave, I missed this, and yes, you said it so much better than I. kiss
Venusxxx
should have gone to spec savers :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :thumbup: bolt
Quote by Dave__Notts
Callous? No..........just my way of coping. Life throws enough problems on us as individuals.............for me to try and take on others problems. I offer my heartfelt sympathy to the victims, as I do to other victims of other disasters........but I will get on with my life and very soon this will be another piece of history, just like all other pieces of history.
Dave_Notts

I don`t think that`s callous either Dave, realistic and self-aware, but not callous. smile
I was in bits, and had to stop watching the news, yet I`m pretty sure there have been news items of individual tragedy I have barely offered more than a token glance at. Possibly because I hear of individual tragedy all the time, we all do, and I`ve become somewhat desensitised to it. It now takes either something on a massive scale, or something closer to home to effect me profoundly.

If death is offensive to you then all death is offensive.....or not? Numbers are irrelevent. One or a million is still a tragedy

I think I just answered that question! Thankyou Dave kiss
Venusxxx
Quote by johnneuk1
should have gone to spec savers :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :thumbup: bolt

Cheeky sod! lol
Venusxxx
i think it is always going to be a case of knowing the people you are telling the joke to.. there are jokes that i would tell my friends that i would never air in a public place...
for example....
my friends probably know a lot of 9/11 jokes... but they would never tell them to me as a lost 6 people on that day...
it is more a question of tact rather than anywhere else and to tell a joke like that in a public domain where the odds are that someone might have been directly or indirectly involved is at the best unthoughtful and silly.. and at the worse just plain rude and sick...
sean xxxxxxxxxxx
Of all the people who say they find this, or any other joke, "offensive", how many can honestly say they have never seen humour in someone else's failure or misfortune?
If I tell a joke that involves death, someone who has recently been touched by death will not be amused. Last year they might have found it hysterical.
If you find jokes about dyslexics funny, many dyslexics will not share your mirth, and if your child turns out to be dyslexic you won't find it funny any more.
If seeing someone slip on a banana skin causes us to laugh, the person whose neck got broken as a result will not be laughing quite as hard, and you won't be laughing when it happens to you.
Humour is often a defense mechanism. A way of coping with tragedy, or an expression of relief that the tragedy is someone else's. It is instinctive, and everything you've ever found funny would seem less funny to you if you were the butt of it. Are you going to renounce your sense of humour on that basis? Of course you're not.
I dislike the joke in question, not because I am offended or upset, or because I think it is malicious, but simply because it's just not funny. The joke could have been backdated a bit and adapted to the biblical story of Noah and the flood or any other historical natural disaster. In essence it would be the same joke and nobody would find it offensive, they'd just say "That's a crap joke."
Ok,the point I was (badly)making is that gags like that mentioned propagate ignorance and pain.
MLK said that if you laugh at OR ignore racism you are part of point being that if you take the stand and say "that is just not funny" and explain why, perhaps the story teller may think twice about retelling it in the future.
Of course there is humour in death as in the Darwin awards,but prejudice hurts.
As some on here may know by now I am a loooooooong way from being a party pooper and I'm not trying to force my views on others,but I have witnessed people getting really hurt by ignorance.
Thanks
Lb :love:
Good to see you back in LB :love: smile
Venusxxx
my own view on this
lifes a bitch at the best of times to most of us, so some develop the willingness to laught at the deaths of many in a effort to negate their own intrinsic fears of mortality, I neither condone them, nor will I dispute their right to do so
Because a persons humour shows what some consider a lack of empathy for people suffering does not mean that they lack the compassion shown by others, it may well be that they are hurting deep inside, but they lack the ability to express their emotions about such an incident. After all, its not that long ago when a man would sooner lose his balls than be seen as a wimp who would cry about anything.
Perhaps this post is ill thought out and expressed, but I believe that everybody does feel for the victims and families involved in the Tsunami, just some have no way to express themselves without appearing weak in their own view by doing so
Quote by Lazeeboy
Of course there is humour in death as in the Darwin awards,but prejudice hurts.

Where does prejudice come into it? Aren't you just playing the race card?
Try this one:
The cockle pickers at Morecambe Bay were told they should head back when the water reached knee-high...
... but Nee Hi was back in the van.

Or this one:
Two sharks in the Irish Sea. One says "What you fancy for dinner tonight?" The other one says "I thought about nipping over to Morecambe for a Chinese.
Now to me, those are just plays on words and some people I told them to found them amusing ones. Others told me they were racist. Do I have to check someone's ethnicity before I tell a joke about them and make sure I only tell jokes about white English people? rolleyes
I'm getting to the point where I'm inclined to tell a joke, even one that's not particularly funny, just to annoy the politically correct.
Now why didn`t I see you coming

Because you had your eyes closed so it didn't sting ?
Bev
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Quote by freckledbird
Now why didn`t I see you coming

Because you had your eyes closed so it didn't sting ?
Bev
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This joke is offensive to people who have been blinded by cum. (Unless they're white people, in which case no problem, they're fair game. ) :P