So what is this I hear about the Labour Party funding a radio station for prisoners.
We are giving money to the banks, and funding a radio station for prisoners. Is there nothing better to spend the money on. A descent care system for wounded servicemen perhaps. Better equipment.
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So what is this I hear about the Labour Party funding a radio station for prisoners.
We are giving money to the banks, and funding a radio station for prisoners. Is there nothing better to spend the money on. A descent care system for wounded servicemen perhaps. Better equipment.
Bang on the money there.
I have not heard about the radio station one though. Still there are a thousand crackpot schemes out there, who are being given taxpayers money. This is probably just another one.
Going by another thread though, I thought prisoners would not have their own station, as it is hard graft being a prisoner nowadays? 12 hour days of hard work, with no telly or Playstations......now I am being silly.
In some prisons, guards wear trainers at night so as to not wake the prisoners up. 
Sex God
Thanks for the link
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) )))
Neil x x x ;)
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
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Thanks for the link
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
O dear why spoil kenties fun?
I bet he was off steaming ready to let it off in here!
He hasent had a good rant in ages.
He must be mellowing a bit in old age
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Thanks for the link
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
O dear why spoil kenties fun?
I bet he was off steaming ready to let it off in here!
He hasent had a good rant in ages.
He must be mellowing a bit in old age
No Minxy I have not, and yes maybe I am.
If I was to Google some of the nutty things, that either local councils or Governments pay for, from OUR money, I would have a zillion webpages to sift through.
But to be honest I have better things to do at the moment like......polish my bike for the coming nice weather.
Quote by neilinleeds
Thanks for the link
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
No problem Neil.
It does not say how much the " charity " is putting in, and how much the Government is going to " lend " a hand.
Maybe the Government will put in million and the charity the remaining 100 grand? It does not say who is putting in what though, but it seems a shit load of money for a new charity to fund.
I doubt very much indeed if a new charity has that kind of money to hand over. But the Government seem in a very generous mood at the moment, and 2 million quid out of the billions it seems to be giving away, seems like a drop in the oceon.
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Sex God
I remember years ago that one of our pillocky London councils, it might even of been the GLC under the leadership of Kem Dodd. that there was a group given a £20,000 grant for accomodation for its meetings. The Group was the Black Lesbian knitting society I can even now remember taking the newspaper clip into my humanities teacher at School as we were doing stuff about the news and asking how this could be . It sticks in my mind what he said, it was "How the heck should I know, i dont knit" 
I think prisonsers do have it to good. I agree with them having the basics but a radio station ffs nah they are perpetrators of the law they should be punished. It comes to something when outside Amley prison in Leeds one day J & I saw Kingsmill bread going in to the kitchens. Fine if it was only that and water but I bet it was to mop up after a good meal made with the best stuff. it aint right i'm telling you, it ain't right!It should be stripey stuff or f*ck all
I can even now remember taking the newspaper clip into my humanities teacher at School as we were doing stuff about the news and asking how this could be . It sticks in my mind what he said, it was "How the heck should I know, i dont knit" I think prisonsers do have it to good. I agree with them having the basics but a radio station ffs nah they are perpetrators of the law they should be punished. It comes to something when outside Amley prison in Leeds one day J & I saw Kingsmill bread going in to the kitchens. Fine if it was only that and water but I bet it was to mop up after a good meal made with the best stuff. it aint right i'm telling you, it ain't right!It should be stripey stuff or f*ck all
Sex God
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It comes to something when outside Amley prison in Leeds one day J & I saw Kingsmill bread going in to the kitchens. Fine if it was only that and water but I bet it was to mop up after a good meal made with the best stuff. it aint right i'm telling you, it ain't right!It should be stripey stuff or f*ck all
Lost, I think you forgot to put a wink on the end of that, but I will bet you a pound to a penny if Kingsmill were delivering bread to Armley Jail, it was bread returned by supermarkets as unsold which would otherwise have gone to waste, and it cost the Prison service next to nothing as result. With a food budget averaging £2 per prisoner per day, I very much doubt they'd be shelling out for the 'best stuff'. Anyone who tries to get 2500 calories a day out of a 2 quid spend will, I suspect, find they are eating the worst kind of shite imaginable. ;)
they should be punished
Lost, if God forbid, you were to ever find yourself incarcerated in a 12' by 8' box for 23 hours per day with a complete stranger, who may or may not be a complete bleedin' psychopath, with every aspect of your life ordered by someone who will tell you when to eat, when to wash, when to get up, when to go to bed, miles away from your family and loved ones, I suspect you would rapidly come to the conclusion that the absolute loss of your liberty was punishment enough. ;)
Neil x x x ;) ;)
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It comes to something when outside Amley prison in Leeds one day J & I saw Kingsmill bread going in to the kitchens. Fine if it was only that and water but I bet it was to mop up after a good meal made with the best stuff. it aint right i'm telling you, it ain't right!It should be stripey stuff or f*ck all
Lost, I think you forgot to put a wink on the end of that, but I will bet you a pound to a penny if Kingsmill were delivering bread to Armley Jail, it was bread returned by supermarkets as unsold which would otherwise have gone to waste, and it cost the Prison service next to nothing as result. With a food budget averaging £2 per prisoner per day, I very much doubt they'd be shelling out for the 'best stuff'. Anyone who tries to get 2500 calories a day out of a 2 quid spend will, I suspect, find they are eating the worst kind of shite imaginable. ;)
they should be punished
Lost, if God forbid, you were to ever find yourself incarcerated in a 12' by 8' box for 23 hours per day with a complete stranger, who may or may not be a complete bleedin' psychopath, with every aspect of your life ordered by someone who will tell you when to eat, when to wash, when to get up, when to go to bed, miles away from your family and loved ones, I suspect you would rapidly come to the conclusion that the absolute loss of your liberty was punishment enough. ;)
Neil x x x ;) ;)
Stop it Neil, I will be getting me hankie out next.
BEFORE anyone commits a crime, they KNOW what will happen if they were to get caught. Some get away with their crimes and some do not.
The ones that get caught and end up in prison, deserve it. A court decides that.
If they have to get told when to eat, when to wash and all the other things, then so what?
Mrs777's son is doing that right now, and his is not a punishment, it is called the army.
Anyone in prison deserves it to be exactly what it should be..a punishment. Getting told what to do and when to eat is all part of that punishment. Dont cry for them, rejoice for them, because hard punishment may just make the difference between then reoffending or not, and becoming a civilised member of a community.
I would love to know where you get the £2 a day for meals from. They get 3 square meals a day, warmth and little extras which is more than a lot of our pensioners get.
Sex God
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Thanks for the link
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
No problem Neil.
It does not say how much the " charity " is putting in, and how much the Government is going to " lend " a hand.
Maybe the Government will put in million and the charity the remaining 100 grand?It does not say who is putting in what though, but it seems a shit load of money for a new charity to fund.
I doubt very much indeed if a new charity has that kind of money to hand over. But the Government seem in a very generous mood at the moment, and 2 million quid out of the billions it seems to be giving away, seems like a drop in the oceon.
:Kent - a majority suggests "most" - so is the above bit about the you being sarcastic for the sake of it or did you not read the article properly?
Nola x
Sex God
I lifted this from the home office website:-
Miscellaneous queries concerning food costs and menu for a range of Prisons
Date: Mon Nov 13 00:00:00 GMT 2006
I am pleased to be able to provide you with the following information. Firstly, concerning question one:
Durham -
Low Newton -
Castington -
Frankland -
Acklington -
All public Prison Service establishments aim to offer a range of foods that enable prisoners to make healthy eating choices. Establishments must offer at least one lower fat/high fibre/lower sugar or lower salt item on each menu and there must also be a clearly marked healthy eating option. Establishments are also required to offer a wide range of fresh fruit, vegetables and salads. Nutritional content is monitored in food specifications and during the cooking process itself. Catering staff are required to look objectively at menu selection and continually seek to modify their recipes, cooking methods and service towards more healthy menus.
The Prison Service offers ‘nutrition’ training courses at intermediate level for staff - these lead to a formal qualification from the Royal Institute of Public Health. Some establishments involve the local hospital dietician in their menu planning and some have obtained Healthy Eating Awards (Heartbeat) from their local authorities.
You may also be interested to know that the overall standard of prison food was recognised recently by the National Audit Office in its report ‘HM Prison Service -Serving Time: Prisoner Diet and Exercise’ (ISBN 0-10-293719-2) - available to download from the NAO website. They reported that ‘on the whole, food offered to prisoners is in line with the Government’s recommendations on healthy eating’.
The food is adequate and variable and though the costs are low per person per day do you think that the £2:00 neil has suggested, rightly so, is anything like the same £2:00 that the man in the street pays? No chance. I would even hazed an educated guess having bulk purchased years and years ago for an institution/organisation that the £2:00 probably spends in the region of upto £5:00 possibly. Even taking it as low as equating to £3:00 a day that you or I would spend, for my family that works out as a budget per week of £105:00/week not that much more than I spend then? Sounds a lot different that way doesn't it. OK you could bring religeous/cultural/dietary equations into this but guess what. My family has those too.
Another piece lifted from a BBc website:-
Prison food was once synonymous with porridge, but it's a dish few jails still serve. A visit to Chelmsford Prison - where the film Porridge was made - shows that inmates' meals have undergone many changes.
It's lucky for John, a prisoner at HMP Chelmsford, that enthusiasm can sometimes make up for a lack of experience.
He's never made an omelette before, but it's the evening's most popular supper choice and he's helping to prepare 250.
Other dishes on offer include beef or vegetable goulash, salt beef pattie, a salad, and vegetable pie.
With special diets, healthy options and greater variety, prison food, it seems, has come a long way since the days of Ronnie Barker's character Norman Stanley Fletcher.
Special diets
Guided by one of three civilians working in Chelmsford Prison's large, industrial-sized kitchen, John is happy to see his omelettes turn out well.
Sandwiches being handed out
Chopped pork and pickle anyone?
This, he suggests, could join salt fish as one of his specialities.
Kingsmill bread? Yes I think do have it and at far less than you or I pay. And I don't mean out of date stock. I cant see that being allowed by the powers that be to be frank.
As for the incarceration and loss of liberty being enough of a punishment? Yes I agree its a bastard of a thing to have to suffer. But then I'm of an opinion that there ought to be other options than prison that are not exploited. There are too many people in prison who shouldn't be but once in prison the life there should be grim,
Miscellaneous queries concerning food costs and menu for a range of Prisons
Date: Mon Nov 13 00:00:00 GMT 2006
I am pleased to be able to provide you with the following information. Firstly, concerning question one:
Durham -
Low Newton -
Castington -
Frankland -
Acklington -
All public Prison Service establishments aim to offer a range of foods that enable prisoners to make healthy eating choices. Establishments must offer at least one lower fat/high fibre/lower sugar or lower salt item on each menu and there must also be a clearly marked healthy eating option. Establishments are also required to offer a wide range of fresh fruit, vegetables and salads. Nutritional content is monitored in food specifications and during the cooking process itself. Catering staff are required to look objectively at menu selection and continually seek to modify their recipes, cooking methods and service towards more healthy menus.
The Prison Service offers ‘nutrition’ training courses at intermediate level for staff - these lead to a formal qualification from the Royal Institute of Public Health. Some establishments involve the local hospital dietician in their menu planning and some have obtained Healthy Eating Awards (Heartbeat) from their local authorities.
You may also be interested to know that the overall standard of prison food was recognised recently by the National Audit Office in its report ‘HM Prison Service -Serving Time: Prisoner Diet and Exercise’ (ISBN 0-10-293719-2) - available to download from the NAO website. They reported that ‘on the whole, food offered to prisoners is in line with the Government’s recommendations on healthy eating’.
The food is adequate and variable and though the costs are low per person per day do you think that the £2:00 neil has suggested, rightly so, is anything like the same £2:00 that the man in the street pays? No chance. I would even hazed an educated guess having bulk purchased years and years ago for an institution/organisation that the £2:00 probably spends in the region of upto £5:00 possibly. Even taking it as low as equating to £3:00 a day that you or I would spend, for my family that works out as a budget per week of £105:00/week not that much more than I spend then? Sounds a lot different that way doesn't it. OK you could bring religeous/cultural/dietary equations into this but guess what. My family has those too.
Another piece lifted from a BBc website:-
Prison food was once synonymous with porridge, but it's a dish few jails still serve. A visit to Chelmsford Prison - where the film Porridge was made - shows that inmates' meals have undergone many changes.
It's lucky for John, a prisoner at HMP Chelmsford, that enthusiasm can sometimes make up for a lack of experience.
He's never made an omelette before, but it's the evening's most popular supper choice and he's helping to prepare 250.
Other dishes on offer include beef or vegetable goulash, salt beef pattie, a salad, and vegetable pie.
With special diets, healthy options and greater variety, prison food, it seems, has come a long way since the days of Ronnie Barker's character Norman Stanley Fletcher.
Special diets
Guided by one of three civilians working in Chelmsford Prison's large, industrial-sized kitchen, John is happy to see his omelettes turn out well.
Sandwiches being handed out
Chopped pork and pickle anyone?
This, he suggests, could join salt fish as one of his specialities.
Kingsmill bread? Yes I think do have it and at far less than you or I pay. And I don't mean out of date stock. I cant see that being allowed by the powers that be to be frank.
As for the incarceration and loss of liberty being enough of a punishment? Yes I agree its a bastard of a thing to have to suffer. But then I'm of an opinion that there ought to be other options than prison that are not exploited. There are too many people in prison who shouldn't be but once in prison the life there should be grim,
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Thanks for the link
It added the majority of the station's funding would be met by the charity and that the prison service now saves money as prisoners have to spend more time in their cells.
So, it's not 2 million of taxpayers money? It's funded mostly by a charitable organisation. Glad we cleared that up before Kenty explodes in righteous indignation!
((( Sorry Kenty! ;) ))) Neil x x x ;)
No problem Neil.
It does not say how much the " charity " is putting in, and how much the Government is going to " lend " a hand.
Maybe the Government will put in million and the charity the remaining 100 grand?It does not say who is putting in what though, but it seems a shit load of money for a new charity to fund.
I doubt very much indeed if a new charity has that kind of money to hand over. But the Government seem in a very generous mood at the moment, and 2 million quid out of the billions it seems to be giving away, seems like a drop in the oceon.
:Kent - a majority suggests "most" - so is the above bit about the you being sarcastic for the sake of it or did you not read the article properly?
Nola x
Me? Sarcastic? Never.
Sexlightened
This bloody country....the more honest you are the less you get and the more you are used and abused (and I don't mean that in the swinging way either - haha)!
Here something for you when police are on operations requiring being fed, the budget is less than that of prisoners for the same meal.
This may not be true for all force areas.
...and to lighten the thread I have taken this from an e-mail;
This may not be true for all force areas.
...and to lighten the thread I have taken this from an e-mail;
I have some programs for the new radio station.
An Australian soap; Home and Locked Away.
A cookery program; Porridge.
A nature program focusing on avian species; Bird.
An early morning music show; Swing AM. Sorry that one has been withdrawn.(A shame about that.)
An education series for the Open University.
A comedy quiz; So That's Your Alibi?
