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Hi,
Out on the M4 near Cardiff today and again as I approached the on-slip at a junction, cars were joining the motorway and expecting traffic on the motorway to slow down or change lanes for them. The highway code says that you should join when clear to do so and not force other drivers to change speed or direction. On several occasions when I haver been passing an on-slip drivers have got visually abusive because I didn't allow them on, principally because I had traffic to my right and behind. There are some morons out there who think they have priority. You can tell from the car (body?) language when someone is 'asking' to join and those that just barge out. I'm more than happy to let the polite ones out even is it is safe to slow or change lanes. Anyone else pissed off at these morons?
Smooth2
Yeah - totally with you on your observations smooth2 have noticed the same and feel as you do :thumbup:
I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.

You shouldn't do that either.
The trick is to be aware of what's happening as far in front of you as possible, and drive accordingly. If I can see that there is traffic waiting to join the motorway, I adjust my speed or lane to allow for smooth movement of traffic onto the motorway. It's not always possible, especially when the motorway is busy, but it does help to be a little courteous.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.

Oh dear... banghead Don't get me started.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As a professional driver of 28yrs with advance training etc... Smooth... Your correct..
As for Centre lane 'hoggers' who don't seem to realise or care that ALL lanes except the inside one are for over taking only... therefore forcing all other traffic to get clogged in the fast lane cos their too ********* to travel in the correct inside lane, therefore increasing the chance of accidents... :boxing: :banghead: :rude:
flipa Minxie :taz:
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.

rotflmao :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
You have them under the collar now, you bad lad smackbottom Your wit still comes through
Dave_Notts
where we are the junction i need to take is literally 300 yards from an entrance .. if they think they are getting me to move over they can think again .. there is no way i could move over and back again in order for me to get my turning. and the ones who do slow down get on my nerves as well slowing to about 50 because the ones joining are also slowing down ... get real folks and learn to drive on a motorway before doing any of these actions.
One of the most dangerous manoeuvres you can attempt on a motorway is to try to join it from a standing start. That said, the joiner doesn't have a 'right of way'.
When I'm on the motorway, I always try to move over well in advance if possible, and if now I try to match my moves to what the joiner is doing. Not cos I am a kind person - it's just the best way i can think of for staying alive.
When joining I try to match my speed to a gap in the traffic, sometimes by slowing down, but as often by speeding up.
It rarely results in any problems.
Rude, bullish, thoughtless, and unaware driving by either is the true danger.
Soemtimes you get the same, to go or not to go sitiation on non-motorways like fast duel-carriageways.
Worth remembering the old adage:
He was right, dead right, as he went along.
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.
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Quote by Ben_welshminx
I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.

Tongue in cheek of coarse, very good Ben :thumbup:
The highway code says that you should join when clear to do so and not force other drivers to change speed or direction
personally I find my driving is governed by my own mood, and also the music on the radio if im feeling blue and radio plays heavy metal then the boot goes down, yet if im happy and a soft mellow song is on i chill out and slow down. as for juctions I hate being behind 25mph approachers trying to speed up actually on the motorway.
I remain convinced one is exempt from this highway code malarky provided one has facial hair and sports a natty flat cap, glasses and a briar pipe.
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I remain convinced one is exempt from this highway code malarky provided one has facial hair and sports a natty flat cap, glasses and a briar pipe.

You forgot the "... and never passed a driving test in their life" bit... and the "never been in an accident (but probably caused quite a few)"
And the ones who say - "eyesight? Passed A1 fit in 1941 - why would I need glasses?".
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And the ones who say - "eyesight? Passed A1 fit in 1941 - why would I need glasses?".

And they would be 85 now, so at least they survived the UKs roads for 69 years. Generally, it is lack of concentration that causes accidents.
The rule on all roads is stay in the lefmost lane except when overtaking. UK road discipline is abismal especially on 3 and 4 lane MWays, with the lefmost lane almost deserted and middle lane hoggers just cruising along at 60'ish.
BTW, apart from Belgium, the UK MWays now have the lowest speed limit in Europe.
Begium has 120 kph (74mph) but most of the rest are 130kph (81mph).
My pet hate is two foreign trucks, hard against their limiters, who take 5 miles to overtake - effectively reducing the MWay to a single lane.
Freckled totally agree........the key to good/great driving is observation. Then best using that information.
Me4......don't hate the truckers, hate the person/people who decided to have them all travel within +/-1mph of each other!
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BTW, apart from Belgium, the UK MWays now have the lowest speed limit in Europe.
Begium has 120 kph (74mph) but most of the rest are 130kph (81mph).

and a nice feature here in France is that the speed limit automatically reduces in wet weather and also the lower limits apply for new drivers too.
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That said, the joiner doesn't have a 'right of way'.

Correct....
There is a broken white line between the joiner and the motorway.....This line signifies give way to the right....
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I always stay in the fastish lane in the middle to avoid the problem altogether.

You shouldn't do that either.
The trick is to be aware of what's happening as far in front of you as possible, and drive accordingly. If I can see that there is traffic waiting to join the motorway, I adjust my speed or lane to allow for smooth movement of traffic onto the motorway. It's not always possible, especially when the motorway is busy, but it does help to be a little courteous.
Can you remind me how you should take the third exit of a roundabout when there is the biggest, whitest, more lights than East Midlands runway, feck off limo overtaking on the outside lane? innocent
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Dave_Notts
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Can you remind me how you should take the third exit of a roundabout when there is the biggest, whitest, more lights than East Midlands runway, feck off limo overtaking on the outside lane? innocent
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Dave_Notts

I would say very carefully!
On Dave's theme...Dual carriageway going into three lanes approaching a roundabout with three other exits coming off it at 9 0'clock 12 0'clock and 3 0'clock. Why the f*ck do so many cars approach on the nearside lane intending to come off at 3 0'clock? Does my head it does.
Quote by Lost
On Dave's theme...Dual carriageway going into three lanes approaching a roundabout with three other exits coming off it at 9 0'clock 12 0'clock and 3 0'clock. Why the f*ck do so many cars approach on the nearside lane intending to come off at 3 0'clock? Does my head it does.

I have editted my post.......I meant to say the outside lane.
Dave_Notts
On the question of the roundabout, it depends on the sign; where the exits are marked and the thickness of the lines as to what lane you should use for entrance on the roundabout.
Ie the sign might be different to the actually roundabout....I hope that makes sense now, haha!