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Alternatively those that feel aggrieved that their topics have been "hijacked" could just be bitter that their thread didn't take the intended direction
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Just plain bad manners or blatant mischief making?
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Sex God
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If you were expecting people to agree with your comments, then what is the point of having minds of our own...when people start threads 50% of the time it will go off in another direction, when the thread "starter" gets arsey and defensive...it then goes in another direction.
Sex God
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I think there's quite a few professional arguers.
One day they will adopt a viewpoint. the next it's the other viewpoint, because they can argue either. that's all.
One day they will adopt a viewpoint. the next it's the other viewpoint, because they can argue either. that's all.
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Alternatively those that feel aggrieved that their topics have been "hijacked" could just be bitter that their thread didn't take the intended direction
This is true but you've still not answerd any of the questions. I would no more but into a conversation and change the subject to suit myself, so why do othere feel the need to do it in forum?
Quote by Islandcpl1 in another thread
If my comments offend you, grow a thicker skin, thats life.
Sex God
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Did I say I found them offensive? Ignorant is a different matter
Is ignorance ignoring a post made in a thread that is relevant and on topic?
I made such a post just yesterday, and seem to be the only person on the thread that hasn't been acknowledged. Everybody else, making random, off the cuff remarks seems to gain a response.
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If my comments offend you, grow a thicker skin, thats life
Seems there are double standards to your arguement
I used to post threads a lot but to be honest I got bored with people nit picking at the slightest thing....yes yes I know I have done the same before someone butts in
People behave differentl in a web forum than they would in the real world...." that's life " I suppose.
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For me, it's neither bad manners nor blatant mischief making.
It's all about allowing a thread to develop from an original notion - very often introducing a considerable amount of humour and banter between regular forumites. Sometimes it can get out of hand - but hey, that's the job of the Moderators, sometimes behind the scenes and sometime more publicly. Collectively, they harness a vast amount of experience in these forums; they have undoubtedly seen it all before and will no doubt see it again and again!
Quite often, I see experienced forumites apologising for a hijack but it is often done in the best possible taste but rarely when they have to go on the defensive.
Perhaps when your posting count increases somewhat to the heady levels of some of the people you are criticising in this and another thread, you might reflect better on the meaning and intention behind what they say and get on with it in a good humoured way. With experience, you might also have the satisfaction of bringing the topic back on line!
But in the meantime, sit back, enjoy the ride - watch and learn. This is a great place of learning on a whole range of subjects and is meant to be enjoyable.
By way of closure, back on thread... The French are taught from a very early age to question those in authority or senior to them and not just to accept things on face value. This means that a youngster will often interrupt parental conversation but unlike their British counterparts, they will not get slapped down and told to be quiet! It is an accepted norm - even if it is off topic. The developed skill is then returning to the original point of interruption and to carry on as if nothing happened. The Political class in France have to learn this skill extremely well if they are to develop their careers - sometimes in examination fielding more than 10 concurrent interruptions and ensuring each one is dealt with in correct priority before returning to the original question. Such examinations are pure mischief making but to test the mental capacity of the examinees and are taken in the spirit of the contest and without malice.
I hope you can develop such skills in your time here...
It's all about allowing a thread to develop from an original notion - very often introducing a considerable amount of humour and banter between regular forumites. Sometimes it can get out of hand - but hey, that's the job of the Moderators, sometimes behind the scenes and sometime more publicly. Collectively, they harness a vast amount of experience in these forums; they have undoubtedly seen it all before and will no doubt see it again and again!
Quite often, I see experienced forumites apologising for a hijack but it is often done in the best possible taste but rarely when they have to go on the defensive.
Perhaps when your posting count increases somewhat to the heady levels of some of the people you are criticising in this and another thread, you might reflect better on the meaning and intention behind what they say and get on with it in a good humoured way. With experience, you might also have the satisfaction of bringing the topic back on line!
But in the meantime, sit back, enjoy the ride - watch and learn. This is a great place of learning on a whole range of subjects and is meant to be enjoyable.
By way of closure, back on thread... The French are taught from a very early age to question those in authority or senior to them and not just to accept things on face value. This means that a youngster will often interrupt parental conversation but unlike their British counterparts, they will not get slapped down and told to be quiet! It is an accepted norm - even if it is off topic. The developed skill is then returning to the original point of interruption and to carry on as if nothing happened. The Political class in France have to learn this skill extremely well if they are to develop their careers - sometimes in examination fielding more than 10 concurrent interruptions and ensuring each one is dealt with in correct priority before returning to the original question. Such examinations are pure mischief making but to test the mental capacity of the examinees and are taken in the spirit of the contest and without malice.
I hope you can develop such skills in your time here...
Sex God
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Did I say I found them offensive? Ignorant is a different matter
Is ignorance ignoring a post made in a thread that is relevant and on topic?
I made such a post just yesterday, and seem to be the only person on the thread that hasn't been acknowledged. Everybody else, making random, off the cuff remarks seems to gain a response.
I posted in the original thread basically in defence of the O P and was berated for it....
Consider yourself fortunate :lol2:
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You need to take into a count that this is a forum ..
It is not a Q/A group.
I my line of work I have to work with forums, Q/A groups, support sites etc a lot. I always find them to be the same, no matter what the topic.
A forum is what it says, a place for open and free dissusion. Topics will change as a dissusion progresses. Always has, always will. Unless you have a speaker or chairman to control the subjects stay on topic.
It is not rude and it is not mischief making .. it is just the life of any conversation..
It is not a Q/A group.
I my line of work I have to work with forums, Q/A groups, support sites etc a lot. I always find them to be the same, no matter what the topic.
A forum is what it says, a place for open and free dissusion. Topics will change as a dissusion progresses. Always has, always will. Unless you have a speaker or chairman to control the subjects stay on topic.
It is not rude and it is not mischief making .. it is just the life of any conversation..
Sex God
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Alternatively those that feel aggrieved that their topics have been "hijacked" could just be bitter that their thread didn't take the intended direction
Yep!
Sex God
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Aslo there's characters in the forum who absolutley have to make a point, and will go to any lengths to do so.
as atom says its a place to discuss things, not to hold people to ransom by your viewpoint.
as atom says its a place to discuss things, not to hold people to ransom by your viewpoint.
Master of Sex
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I often read the forums but seldom post, often due to the fact that others are often more eloquent at replying than myself. However I would have thought that as with a good conversation a forum thread is subject to change and diversification especially with so many participants. For me thats what often makes them so interesting to read. I soon loose interest as many do once the general bitching and moaning starts.
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Quote by I_am_joy
I often read the forums but seldom post, often due to the fact that others are often more eloquent at replying than myself. However I would have thought that as with a good conversation a forum thread is subject to change and diversification especially with so many participants. For me thats what often makes them so interesting to read. I soon loose interest as many do once the general bitching and moaning starts.
Eloquently put - and well said. :thumbup:
Sex God
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there's always someone suitably enlightened enough to come along and put an end to a decent conversation.
Sex God
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Awww duncs, you say the nicest things sometimes.
I always wondered why very few people responded to my postings these days
I always wondered why very few people responded to my postings these days
Casanova
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Oh course you always get the person that will try and comment on every post they see, even if they do not really have a point to make on the topic.. It is like they just need people to see that they are still there. You always get the people that feel the have to comment on every post, because the post could not possible be valid unless they did
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Oh course you always get the person that will try and comment on every post they see, even if they do not really have a point to make on the topic.. It is like they just need people to see that they are still there. You always get the people that feel the have to comment on every post, because the post could not possible be valid unless they did
Ah so people can only post in threads that you deem to be ok for them to post in?
Got it.:thumbup:
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Oh course you always get the person that will try and comment on every post they see, even if they do not really have a point to make on the topic.. It is like they just need people to see that they are still there. You always get the people that feel the have to comment on every post, because the post could not possible be valid unless they did
Ah so people can only post in threads that you deem to be ok for them to post in?
Got it.:thumbup:
You know I did not mean that ...
But I then again I wonder why you have such a high post count .. hmmmmm
Sex God
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I was taught that you join in a conversation, or when someone asks a question of you that you answer it as best you possibly can. In my opinion far too many topics in the various forums seem to have been hijacked by people who seemingly get some degree of satisfaction from doing so. These same people rarely if ever start a topic of their own, I wonder why?
Is it because they are incapable of creative, independent and or original thought, i.e. intellectual eunuchs’?
Or is it because they feel frustrated that they cannot sensibly or constructively contribute to a topic and therefore feel the need to ruin it for others?
Odd. In my day I was taught that one of the most ill-mannered things you can do is comment upon the lack of manners in others? We wouldn't have dreamed of making such derisory comments on the quality or otherwise of company in the hearing of any of those assembled, cos our mam would have had us. Funny how times change isn't it?
;)As for your last two paragraphs, which horn of that particular dilemma will we all impale ourselves on I wonder?
*grabs popcorn*
Thing is Islandcpl, even conversations in real life sometimes wander away from the original topic, don't they? Among a sufficiently large group of people, a single conversation among a single group quite often splits, meanders away from the topic at hand, as people clarify points made by another amongst themselves, to prevent misunderstanding perhaps, sub-divides still further, etc, etc, until what you effectively have is a single group of people having multiple conversations among themselves, who occasionally find themselves momentarily off-topic, but tend to come back to the main subject eventually. Much like a forum thread actually now I think about it!
Except that when using a written medium what might pass for an ill thought out, throwaway comment that would ordinarily in real life have been politely passed over and moved on from remains, for all to see, where people can come back to it at their leisure and pick up on it. A thread is very much like a conversation in the real world, just it's not in real time, and it moves back and forth, and this way and that, and every little opinion we express is put out there, in writing, inviting comment from other users as long as the forum lasts. Because of that an ill thought out throwaway comment tends not to be quite so throwaway as we'd sometimes like, and it invites comment from everyone who reads it, whether we like it or not. That is the nature of the beast. There's no point complaining about it. You must just get used to it.
N x x x ;)
Sex God
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If the subject of a thread is a question - it's only good manners to answer it. But then - even within that post - it is perectly acceptable to add to the thread, whether that is a development of the subject, or going off on a tangent.
But once a thread has developed it could go anywhere - and that's the fantastic thing about forums. They open up whole new paths of conversation and thinking.
One thing the OP (of any thread) doesn't get to do, is dictate to anyone what they should post. Equally each poster should probably consider the impact of their own posts - in exactly the same way they would consider the impact of a contribution to a face to face conversation.
Looking back over the above, I realise I have actually dictated what people should post - sorry. LOL
But once a thread has developed it could go anywhere - and that's the fantastic thing about forums. They open up whole new paths of conversation and thinking.
One thing the OP (of any thread) doesn't get to do, is dictate to anyone what they should post. Equally each poster should probably consider the impact of their own posts - in exactly the same way they would consider the impact of a contribution to a face to face conversation.
Looking back over the above, I realise I have actually dictated what people should post - sorry. LOL
Sexpert
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I read many forums on various websites, and have to say that its not very often a thread stays on topic, whether its about money problems, swinging, problems with children etc...
I have to say that I often think of it like a conversation in a pub... how often do you start talking about 1 thing and end up with another...
Tis life....
I have to say that I often think of it like a conversation in a pub... how often do you start talking about 1 thing and end up with another...
Tis life....
Sex God
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................Pardon ?.............. sorry I was in current affairs........now what were we saying ?
Sex God
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2 pages in and still on the topic tick VG
What`s got a hazlenut in every bite ??
Nutella?! :giggle:
Sexpert
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ohhhhh nutella on digestive bikkies..... mmm yummy
Sex God
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.......Right....bad manners...I've always felt that manners are largely a subjective matter,are you being ignored or just not attracting attention and such.I also believe there is a place for bad manners....conversation and debate for example have a tendency to stagnate if everyone is busy allowing everyone else to go first.....say what you have to say, wait for response,recalculate position(if required)answer....don't at any stage say "no you were meant to say...."this makes you look more than a little foolish.
Bad manners are your best weapon,it's just knowing when to use them.
Sorry all a little incoherent but I was busy with something more important.....apparently if you press that F5 button on your keyboard it refreshes your page,fasci................
Bad manners are your best weapon,it's just knowing when to use them.
Sorry all a little incoherent but I was busy with something more important.....apparently if you press that F5 button on your keyboard it refreshes your page,fasci................
Sex God
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2 pages in and still on the topic tick VG
What`s got a hazlenut in every bite ??
Nutella?! :giggle:
I hate that stuff
I really don't understand chocolate spread. I mean its a sweet and not a savoury so how come it goes in a sandwich
Sexpert
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I dont like sweet things in a sandwich, but do like them on a bikkie... my fave sarnie is cold lasange
Sex God
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I dont like sweet things in a sandwich, but do like them on a bikkie... my fave sarnie is cold lasange
Ewwwwwwwwwwww... that's gross!! :giggle:
Mind you... am a great believer that if something doesn't go in a piece it's not worth eating!
Sex God
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Quote by Dirtygirly
2 pages in and still on the topic tick VG
What`s got a hazlenut in every bite ??
Nutella?! :giggle:
Nutella on fresh bread mmmmm
Sexpert
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I have been away from Scotland far too long!!! is ages since I heard someone call a sarnie a piece
when I first moved south the looks I got when I said I want a piece and ham :D
Oh and when I was asked where glasses were and I said in the press :D
when I first moved south the looks I got when I said I want a piece and ham :D
Oh and when I was asked where glasses were and I said in the press :D
