Quote by blonde
I have read the comments and really tried not to say anything but ......................
There isn't a right way or a wrong way to react ...... we would all react differently in the same situation.
My Father was murdered. The day before it happened, if you'd asked me what I would do ........ I would have said I would get a gun and shoot the bastard who did it .............. the reality was that I couldnt think straight for about 2 years after it happened......................... when I came out of the fog, did I get a gun and shoot the man who did it? NO!
Blonde, well said and
So ......... I dont mean to offend anyone but YOU dont know what you would do in the McCanns situation unless you are ever unfortunate enough to be in their situation!
Lets hope none of us ever are!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Maddie is safe and OK...... nuff said
Sam
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sorry 2 hear about that. But the fact is this little girl is missing and i wouldnt dream about hurting one off my kids or leaveing them on there own. if they didnt do anything 2 the kid so be it but they did murder her the time they left her on her own and went drinking and haveing a good time, they will pay 4 that.
Quote by blonde
I have read the comments and really tried not to say anything but ......................
There isn't a right way or a wrong way to react ...... we would all react differently in the same situation.
My Father was murdered. The day before it happened, if you'd asked me what I would do ........ I would have said I would get a gun and shoot the bastard who did it .............. the reality was that I couldnt think straight for about 2 years after it happened......................... when I came out of the fog, did I get a gun and shoot the man who did it? NO!
So ......... I dont mean to offend anyone but YOU dont know what you would do in the McCanns situation unless you are ever unfortunate enough to be in their situation!
Lets hope none of us ever are!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Maddie is safe and OK...... nuff said
Sam
p.s. I am not looking for a sympathy vote .......... just saying you dont know what you would do until you are actually in the situation........... you might think you know what you would do ............. but the reality is that you dont!
So true!!! I've always been the "I would do this, react like that" type person, still am.......
but when it actually came to dealing with a tragedy, I was completely different ......... I think it's cos your heads so totally squiffy, reactions just don't come out as expected. Some people on the outside of my imediate circle might've misunderstood my totally fucked up head as being cold, or dealing with it so well. But in truth, it took me a year to even come to terms with it.
So I wouldn't base a judgement on someones reactions. I do have questions and stuff that don't seem to add up - but they could well do if answered from an angle I'm not thinking from - PoshKate answered one of them with the babysitting thingy.
Sex God
Ive read this and like others have tried not to say anything but as emotions do run high when something like this hits the headlines.....
Innocent until proven guilty, wether it applies in Portugal or not, this is the way I was brought up. God forbid my name ever hits the headlines in such a controversial way and I have people judging me and subjecting me to such a witch hunt as appears to be going on in a number of forums up and down the internet.
Innocent until proven guilty, wether it applies in Portugal or not, this is the way I was brought up. God forbid my name ever hits the headlines in such a controversial way and I have people judging me and subjecting me to such a witch hunt as appears to be going on in a number of forums up and down the internet.
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Ive read this and like others have tried not to say anything but as emotions do run high when something like this hits the headlines.....
Innocent until proven guilty, wether it applies in Portugal or not, this is the way I was brought up. God forbid my name ever hits the headlines in such a controversial way and I have people judging me and subjecting me to such a witch hunt as appears to be going on in a number of forums up and down the internet.
:thumbup: which is why I've kept out of the whole thread.
I have my own views and yes I actually do agree things don't add up. From day one there has been something strange about him, I think it's actually very strange he's jogging, laughing and keeping a daily diary as "normal" - personally I wouldn't be able to function - BUT everyone responds with their own coping mechanisms and we cannot sit here and judge.
I think it's really unfair for discussion either way and out of respect for the little lassie I'm not going to say anymore on the matter. If she is still alive and they are innocent that's her Mammy and Daddy and she loves them.
Sex God
If you look at parental involvement it appears you have three choices,
1, They did it together, if so, your saying that for 100 days they have been able to keep a cover story 100% accurate between the two of them? Very difficult! Think about when you meet new people "on the scene", you may be cagie about describing your job, where you live etc, but how difficult is it for little details not to leak out, or the "cover story" not be consistant between the two of you?
2, She did it, so now your saying that she managed to act so well that even her husband believed her? Look how many people in the world suspect their partner of having an affair, "just because they know". People who have been together a few years will be able to tell when their partner is lying. And if she did it, the urge to admit it to him would have been overwhelming.
3, He did it, same reasons against as in 2.
Sorry, don't buy it.
John
1, They did it together, if so, your saying that for 100 days they have been able to keep a cover story 100% accurate between the two of them? Very difficult! Think about when you meet new people "on the scene", you may be cagie about describing your job, where you live etc, but how difficult is it for little details not to leak out, or the "cover story" not be consistant between the two of you?
2, She did it, so now your saying that she managed to act so well that even her husband believed her? Look how many people in the world suspect their partner of having an affair, "just because they know". People who have been together a few years will be able to tell when their partner is lying. And if she did it, the urge to admit it to him would have been overwhelming.
3, He did it, same reasons against as in 2.
Sorry, don't buy it.
John
A lot of interesting comments, idea, hypothesis and questions raised here, however we are missing one key element here.....
We are all surmising about what did/didn't/could or couldnot have happened all on the information relayed to us through various formats of the MEDIA!!
I have my own opinions about what i believe could have happened on that dreadful night but i think its best to keep them between myself and miss srne. Not that im having a go at u guys for posting yours thats your right and priveledge.
You have to realise the horrible truth that the media etc are there to sell newspapers and they are all subject to "artistic license" and free to speculate" to some degree in order to sensationalize and sell more copies.
We are getting nearly all the information we have from a source that could well be edited, cut to suit, or even made up. Papers can get away with printing certain things by saying "a friend of the McCann's told our reporter that.......", and we then believe it
I am sure a lot more is to follow with this case and i still cant really believe that the parents left their children alone in a hotel room in a foreign country (that is the one bit of information we kno for sure).
One thing I do hope for is that wherever that poor beautiful little girl is i hope she is safe from any harm, both physically and psychologically i really, really do!
We are all surmising about what did/didn't/could or couldnot have happened all on the information relayed to us through various formats of the MEDIA!!
I have my own opinions about what i believe could have happened on that dreadful night but i think its best to keep them between myself and miss srne. Not that im having a go at u guys for posting yours thats your right and priveledge.
You have to realise the horrible truth that the media etc are there to sell newspapers and they are all subject to "artistic license" and free to speculate" to some degree in order to sensationalize and sell more copies.
We are getting nearly all the information we have from a source that could well be edited, cut to suit, or even made up. Papers can get away with printing certain things by saying "a friend of the McCann's told our reporter that.......", and we then believe it
I am sure a lot more is to follow with this case and i still cant really believe that the parents left their children alone in a hotel room in a foreign country (that is the one bit of information we kno for sure).
One thing I do hope for is that wherever that poor beautiful little girl is i hope she is safe from any harm, both physically and psychologically i really, really do!
Sex God
Quote by Mallock2006
In that case how is the blood found in the hire car,hired some time after her dissapearence,explained
Please note it was her blood in the car, not her. This may have happened in a number of ways including secondary transfer form another item. At this late date perhaps aided by water or solvent. The blood planted or leaking directly from Madeline.
Who else hired the car and when?
Travis
Sex God
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In that case how is the blood found in the hire car,hired some time after her dissapearence,explained
Please note it was her blood in the car, not her.
This may have happened in a number of ways including secondary transfer form another item. At this late date perhaps aided by water or solvent. The blood planted or leaking directly from Madeline.
Who else hired the car and when?
Travis
That was what I said wasnt it :dunno:
Sex God
Quote by blonde
I have read the comments and really tried not to say anything but ......................
There isn't a right way or a wrong way to react ...... we would all react differently in the same situation.
My Father was murdered. The day before it happened, if you'd asked me what I would do ........ I would have said I would get a gun and shoot the bastard who did it .............. the reality was that I couldnt think straight for about 2 years after it happened......................... when I came out of the fog, did I get a gun and shoot the man who did it? NO!
So ......... I dont mean to offend anyone but YOU dont know what you would do in the McCanns situation unless you are ever unfortunate enough to be in their situation!
Lets hope none of us ever are!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Maddie is safe and OK...... nuff said
Sam
p.s. I am not looking for a sympathy vote .......... just saying you dont know what you would do until you are actually in the situation........... you might think you know what you would do ............. but the reality is that you dont!
:thumbup:
This is a very sensitive subject & feel that I am not going to comment as I don't know all the true facts of the case. My only feelings are that I hope Maddie is alive & well somewhere.
Secrecy is often the cause of worsening a situation. So when I see that people have an interest in something but are unwilling to divulge their thoughts, I consider they are also contributing to the culture of secrecy.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we may not consider the worst. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we may not consider the worst. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Secrecy is often the cause of worsening a situation. So when I see that people have an interest in something but are unwilling to divulge their thoughts, I consider they are also contributing to the culture of secrecy.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we will not consider the worst reactions. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we will not consider the worst reactions. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Secrecy is often the cause of worsening a situation. So when I see that people have an interest in something but are unwilling to divulge their thoughts, I consider they are also contributing to the culture of secrecy.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we will not consider the worst reactions. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Its well intentioned but somewhat redundant.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we will not consider the worst reactions. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Its well intentioned but somewhat redundant.
Quote by duncanlondon
Secrecy is often the cause of worsening a situation. So when I see that people have an interest in something but are unwilling to divulge their thoughts, I consider they are also contributing to the culture of secrecy.
Its true that we could all react to a situation in very different ways. Making such a statement assumes that we will not consider the worst reactions. Unfortunately such an idea also gives licence to opening up the consideration of the worst possibilities.
Its well intentioned but somewhat redundant.
:thumbup:
Couldn't of written exactly that in less than 10 pages myself :lol2:
I enjoy reading peoples reactions, peoples thoughts, peoples opinions on information they have been given. The last thing I would want to do is stub out the first few pages of this thread, or have them flamed. I would say that all of them give, at the very least, the opinion of most.
If that opinion is totally off mark, then the information we have been given has to be re-evaluated and, if necessary, adjusted accordingly I reckon.
Roll on peoples opinions I say
It's what keeps the forums so alive....... and when you get other opinions to counteract the originals, then all the more constructive........ie Blondes incredible post :worship:Sorry, a bit tipsy at the mo, does that make any sense.
I know we are not on the scene and privvy to the facts. But in some instances even the police don't actually get enough facts to prove a case.
And in other circumstances they can get enough facts together to prove that an innocent person is guilty.
So its only a reasonably reliable method of determining who to blame.
But as much as we think to ourselves about this, the police are appointed to make such thoughts realistic enough to establish a case. After which its handed over to the lawyers to thrash out the decision.
And in other circumstances they can get enough facts together to prove that an innocent person is guilty.
So its only a reasonably reliable method of determining who to blame.
But as much as we think to ourselves about this, the police are appointed to make such thoughts realistic enough to establish a case. After which its handed over to the lawyers to thrash out the decision.
Great post but loads of conspiracy theories too, At the end of the day I can’t understand why people are coming to certain conclusions when it’s all media hype.
The Portuguese police have not released any of this information but the media knows it all.
If any of it is to be believed then it doesn’t add up, if there was blood found in the car, when was it searched? And if it was searched then surely they would have had to obtain a warrant to do so, surely at which point they would have then already been suspects? And why do the McCann’s still have this hired car?
Then there’s talk of a deal of 2 years in prison if she admitted to accidental death charges, sorry but it’s a well known fact they don’t do deals in Portugal and never have.
The only thing they are guilty of at the moment is being stupid for leaving the kids on their own unattended. Using the babysitting service in much of these resorts is actually no better than what they were doing as poshkate rightly pointed out “they check the apartments every 20 to 30 mins” and if there’s a problem contact the parents, So surely if what the McCann’s were doing was negligence like others have said, then wouldn’t this also be the case if using the hotel services? If checking on your kids every 30 mins makes them bad parents, then getting the hotel staff to do the same still makes them bad parents.
Ever heard the saying, “it came from the horse’s mouth” YES? Well it didn’t it’s all come from the media, Yes the same media who caused a storm not so long ago with the prostitute murders in Suffolk, anyone remember “Tom Stephens” practically had him hung out to dry, well after all, he was wasn’t too good it front of the camera was he? So it must have been him? He was also a loner, he was friendly with prostitutes, and hey he was on my space and bebo too, so he was also a weirdo and too. Until a second suspect was found that is…
I’ll admit I can be quick to judge, but only when I have plain facts to go on and not jumbled up tosh from journalists fighting each other to make the headlines!!!
I would hope this child is still alive somewhere, and if the parents were responsible im sure the truth will come out through real evidence. I also hope that this never happens to anyone else, and especially a member from this site, because if the press got hold of that one we all know what would happen there, guilty till proven innocent springs to mind!!! People also need to remember your only seeing what the media want you too see so how anyone can judge their emotions is way beyond me, i would hate to see them smiling on camera as that would definitely seal their fate....
The Portuguese police have not released any of this information but the media knows it all.
If any of it is to be believed then it doesn’t add up, if there was blood found in the car, when was it searched? And if it was searched then surely they would have had to obtain a warrant to do so, surely at which point they would have then already been suspects? And why do the McCann’s still have this hired car?
Then there’s talk of a deal of 2 years in prison if she admitted to accidental death charges, sorry but it’s a well known fact they don’t do deals in Portugal and never have.
The only thing they are guilty of at the moment is being stupid for leaving the kids on their own unattended. Using the babysitting service in much of these resorts is actually no better than what they were doing as poshkate rightly pointed out “they check the apartments every 20 to 30 mins” and if there’s a problem contact the parents, So surely if what the McCann’s were doing was negligence like others have said, then wouldn’t this also be the case if using the hotel services? If checking on your kids every 30 mins makes them bad parents, then getting the hotel staff to do the same still makes them bad parents.
Ever heard the saying, “it came from the horse’s mouth” YES? Well it didn’t it’s all come from the media, Yes the same media who caused a storm not so long ago with the prostitute murders in Suffolk, anyone remember “Tom Stephens” practically had him hung out to dry, well after all, he was wasn’t too good it front of the camera was he? So it must have been him? He was also a loner, he was friendly with prostitutes, and hey he was on my space and bebo too, so he was also a weirdo and too. Until a second suspect was found that is…
I’ll admit I can be quick to judge, but only when I have plain facts to go on and not jumbled up tosh from journalists fighting each other to make the headlines!!!
I would hope this child is still alive somewhere, and if the parents were responsible im sure the truth will come out through real evidence. I also hope that this never happens to anyone else, and especially a member from this site, because if the press got hold of that one we all know what would happen there, guilty till proven innocent springs to mind!!! People also need to remember your only seeing what the media want you too see so how anyone can judge their emotions is way beyond me, i would hate to see them smiling on camera as that would definitely seal their fate....
Quote by blonde
I have read the comments and really tried not to say anything but ......................
There isn't a right way or a wrong way to react ...... we would all react differently in the same situation.
My Father was murdered. The day before it happened, if you'd asked me what I would do ........ I would have said I would get a gun and shoot the bastard who did it .............. the reality was that I couldnt think straight for about 2 years after it happened......................... when I came out of the fog, did I get a gun and shoot the man who did it? NO!
So ......... I dont mean to offend anyone but YOU dont know what you would do in the McCanns situation unless you are ever unfortunate enough to be in their situation!
Lets hope none of us ever are!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Maddie is safe and OK...... nuff said
Sam
p.s. I am not looking for a sympathy vote .......... just saying you dont know what you would do until you are actually in the situation........... you might think you know what you would do ............. but the reality is that you dont!
Personally. i doubt they did it, - the McCanns;
however, it seem that in all cases where someone has been snatched or murdered there are psycologists in the back ground watching and analyisng the potential guilty people, I wonder where this story will end?
i sincerely hope that that pretty little child does get found,
Wally
however, it seem that in all cases where someone has been snatched or murdered there are psycologists in the back ground watching and analyisng the potential guilty people, I wonder where this story will end?
i sincerely hope that that pretty little child does get found,
Wally
Sexpert
i believe that right at the moment we have no concrete evidence to blame anybody for maddys dissappearance or have no concrete theories as to what has happened to this beautiful little girl. all we have is hearsay. hearsay is a very lethal weapon when it becomes chinese whispers. chinese whispers is a stupid game when played with real life situations. peeps become hung , drawn and quartered before the end of the game. i just hope that at the conclusion of this very emotionaly charged fiasco, that the truth , and only the truth comes out, and that whoever decided to do what they have done with maddy gets their just desserts. my heart hopes maddy is safe and well, my head suggests different.
i cant beleive they are coming home what did they say about staying there until they found her???? hmmmmm why now just after they have both been named as official witnesses or what ever they call em
Stinks to high heaven but who knows whats happened a very strange case
And news nows says it was maddies blood in the hire car the hired 25 days after maddies disappearance :shock: :shock: :shock:
Stinks to high heaven but who knows whats happened a very strange case
And news nows says it was maddies blood in the hire car the hired 25 days after maddies disappearance :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sex God
Quote by Maynjohn
well it does say that any child that has been abused are by there own family , or someone they know bcause they feel safe and comfortable with them. holly wells, jessica chapman, a person at there school, dannie got murdered by her uncle, and many more if not the parents someone close 2 the family.
I don't think that's the case with any child. I'm sure there are lots of children who are abused (or worse) by people they don't know.
I'm glad i dont have to sit on the jury of this case or any other thats as emotive expecially with the media speculation. As for maddies parents can u imagine how traumatic it must be for them if they are truly innocent of any crime here other than that of neglect and last time I looked the law remains the same innocent till proven guilty by a jury of your peers ...not the press. On the other hand if they have had a hand in this and god forbid that they have plz try and spare a thought for the rest of their family because they are the ones left to pick up the pieces. I have known the mother of a child who was abducted and killed in a most brutal manner, the police while appearing to operate in a most pro active ways missed vital evidence and made a number of mistakes b4 finally finding the childs body just a matter of meters from where she dissapeared. In this case the mother also became a suspect and was accused of neglect abuse etc.....sometimes not just one life is taken in these cases often a full family has thier lives changed in such a way that it is no longer identifyable so i urge ppl to have patience as this unfolds and direct your energy to how we can all improve the protection of our children.
Warming the Bed
Quote by dekntan
i cant beleive they are coming home what did they say about staying there until they found her???? hmmmmm why now just after they have both been named as official witnesses or what ever they call em
Stinks to high heaven but who knows whats happened a very strange case
And news nows says it was maddies blood in the hire car the hired 25 days after maddies disappearance :shock: :shock: :shock:
there is nothing odd about them coming home...they just don't want to out stay their welcome...which might quite possibly have happened with some of the people in that small town...as selfish as it might sound but they might want life to get back to some normality.
Quote by dekntan
i cant beleive they are coming home what did they say about staying there until they found her???? hmmmmm why now just after they have both been named as official witnesses or what ever they call em
Stinks to high heaven but who knows whats happened a very strange case
And news nows says it was maddies blood in the hire car the hired 25 days after maddies disappearance :shock: :shock: :shock:
try not to believe everything you see in the press.
