Ladies Profiles......

23 Jul 2012

I often see profiles with such things as 'love sucking cock....not had any complaints...." or assets....no complaints' - just wondering if any of the ladies has had a meet where at any point the person the ladies met said - hmmmm... not that impressed with your tits and your blow job was a bit crap....want to meet again??' Somehow though - i'll bet someone has because im now not surprised or shocked by what blokes will say on here... smile

23 Jul 2012

I've asked a number of men the same question.
I think if we were to ask people of a different culture, we might get more honesty and potential for improvement (assuming it really was shit). It's just not British to do anything proactive, we're much better at slagging people off to our mates.
Judging purely by the stench of desperation in the chatrooms at times, it appears to me that men will basically get their kicks from anything, it doesn't have to be particularly good ... hence the phrase "any hole's a goal".

23 Jul 2012

Got to admit, I never realised there was such a thing as a bad blow job blast

24 Jul 2012

I've had some fekin awful blow jobs, but generally, as long as the teeth aren't involved, then it's just accepted gracefully. One shouldn't discourage someone who's trying to please.

24 Jul 2012

Quote by skinny
I've had some fekin awful blow jobs, but generally, as long as the teeth aren't involved, then it's just accepted gracefully. One shouldn't discourage someone who's trying to please.

I think with oral sex most of the problem is not poor technique but half-hearted attempts.

Quote by HughGRection
hmmmm... not that impressed with your tits and your blow job was a bit crap....

You know what, I have had friends tell me their boyfriends/partners have made such complaints :-o
I think in casual meets there is less pressure for someone to be perfect in every way, it's not like you'll be spending your life with them or even be seen to be associated with them socially, so as long as you get each other horny, appearance and/or skill can take a back seat. It's a cursory encounter aimed to make everyone feel good, people tend to concentrate on the positive and rightly so. Whether lack of complaints has any value under the circumstances... I am not sure.

24 Jul 2012

Quote by pebble
I've had some fekin awful blow jobs, but generally, as long as the teeth aren't involved, then it's just accepted gracefully. One shouldn't discourage someone who's trying to please.

I think with oral sex most of the problem is not poor technique but half-hearted attempts.

Poor technique WITH enthusiasm is the worst :shock:

27 Jul 2012

Quote by Trevaunance
Got to admit, I never realised there was such a thing as a bad blow job

Most women are crap at giving blow jobs, there are some really talented women but not that many, I guess it is the same with men licking pussy, some are good at it some are not.
The way you suck cock might be great for some guys but crap for others, we don't all like it done the same way and it is the same for licking pussy, some women like a tongue inside, some like all the action on the clit, some like the whole shabang with attention to the clit, the pussy and rimming, some like the teeth used some don't.
Some guys like deep throat, some like the head to get all the attention, some guys are too sensative on the head to have any kind of prolonged attention on it so for them it can be quite uncomfortable in the same way that for some women too much attention to the clit can become uncomfortable.
If you want a good blow job or pleasureable pussy licking you have to communicate with the person doing it, let them know how you like it.
If you want to give someone a good pussy licking or blow job you have to communicate with the person your doing it to and find out how they like it done, or at the very least look for thier reaction to what your doing and find out for yourself what they like.
A lot of women do think they are great at blow jobs, but can I ask, how did you learn how to do it, do you study porn videos to see different techniques ? do you ask the guy your with ? have you learned how to deepthroat ? do you actually suck cock or do you lick it, having you cock sucked is the often the ultimate experience for most guys, ladies who actually do suck the cum right out of it are normally the best blow jobbers.
But how would you know that if no guy tells you ?
The ladies are often better at licking pussy because most in the scene are bi and know how it feels when someone licks them so can use that experience, bi guys are the same but not so many men are bi as women, and a common mistake for bi people is assuming that the person they are doing it with likes it done the same way as them which is not always the case.
The common fault with blow jobs is that women do them for only 1 or 2 minutes, despite how much they state on thier profiles that they love to give them, in fact I have found the more that they boast about loving them the less time they spend actually doing it.
You can give them for too long and you can lick pussy for too long, you have to gauge the reaction of the person your with, but on average I will lick pussy for an hour before moving on to sex, foreplay can be fun but it can last too long and for some an hour would be murder so it is important to watch for the signs that say it is time to move on, of course just licking pussy for an hour can be boring for your partner, there are necks, boobs, and many other parts that can have attention at the same time or as a break for a minute or two.
At the end of the day if you only have one style in your blow job or pussy licking your probably not what would be called good at it, good for some but not for all and probably not for most.
Or am I talking and believing crap ?
comments welcome guys n girls.

27 Jul 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
Got to admit, I never realised there was such a thing as a bad blow job

Quote by MidsCouple24
Most women are crap at giving blow jobs, there are some really talented women but not that many, I guess it is the same with men licking pussy, some are good at it some are not.

Quote by MidsCouple24
The way you suck cock might be great for some guys but crap for others

Quote by MidsCouple24
If you want to give someone a good pussy licking or blow job you have to communicate with the person your doing it to and find out how they like it done, or at the very least look for thier reaction to what your doing and find out for yourself what they like.

Quote by MidsCouple24
can I ask, how did you learn how to do it, do you study porn videos to see different techniques ? do you ask the guy your with ? have you learned how to deepthroat ? do you actually suck cock or do you lick it,

Quote by MidsCouple24
But how would you know that if no guy tells you ?

Quote by MidsCouple24
Or am I talking and believing crap ?

I think you are definetly talking crap Mids, total and utter crap!
Why the fuck are you asking a straight male where I learnt to suck cock?

29 Jul 2012

I think most would have realised that my answer and personal opinion was just a general submission on the topic, the fact that I discussed pussy licking and blow jobs, the fact that this is a forum for general conversation and debate about a subject means that not all comments are aimed at the OP and not everything is about you, when you start a topic in here it is for everyone to discuss with each other, if you want answers directed back only at you, perhaps you should try mailing individuals for thier personal opinion or stating in your opening thread that you don't want the subject to be discussed between everyone and just personal answers to you lol

but hey, talking crap at times is something we all do so I don't feel bad if I did this time wink

29 Jul 2012

Mids, You quoted me and then wrote a reply. Surely it's reasonable to assume that you were replying to the quote? If not then why quote it in the first place?
You also asked question directed at me. So your post wasn't a general discussion, it was aimed at me.
And for the record I am not the OP, so your barking up the wrong tree again.

29 Jul 2012

Quote by Trevaunance
Mids, You quoted me and then wrote a reply. Surely it's reasonable to assume that you were replying to the quote? If not then why quote it in the first place?
You also asked question directed at me. So your post wasn't a general discussion, it was aimed at me.
And for the record I am not the OP, so your barking up the wrong tree again.

I'm glad you can follow his quotes....
I find them chaotic at best :lol2:

29 Jul 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
If you want a good blow job or pleasureable pussy licking you have to communicate with the person doing it, let them know how you like it.

Quote by MidsCouple24
If you want to give someone a good pussy licking or blow job you have to communicate with the person your doing it to and find out how they like it done, or at the very least look for thier reaction to what your doing and find out for yourself what they like.

I couldn't agree more - communication is essential for sex generally, in my opinion. I derive most of my own pleasure from pleasing my sexual partner, and there is nothing worse than not knowing whether or not I'm using the right techniques for the person I'm with. Some people are very responsive - both physically and aurally - which makes it easier to respond and react. Other people are incredibly quiet and difficult to read, and I often find myself asking questions about what they want and like in those situations. I like feedback - I want to know that I'm doing things the way they want them done...

Quote by MidsCouple24
A lot of women do think they are great at blow jobs, but can I ask, how did you learn how to do it, do you study porn videos to see different techniques ? do you ask the guy your with ? have you learned how to deepthroat ? do you actually suck cock or do you lick it, having you cock sucked is the often the ultimate experience for most guys, ladies who actually do suck the cum right out of it are normally the best blow jobbers.

I've never been told that I'm bad at either blowjobs or licking pussy, but that doesn't mean anything (I agree with the op... how many people would be honest and tell you if they didn't enjoy it...?!!). But, on the other hand, if a guy/girl didn't enjoy it, I doubt they'd say it was amazing... so, I always figure that if someone tells me afterwards how great it was, then I must have done something right!
In answer to your questions about blowjobs:
* I learned through practice primarily, but I also asked my sexual partners questions, read about techniques and talked to others. I've always been very sexually experimental, and I *love* learning and trying new techniques.
* I know how to deepthroat - I learned that by reading about the technique, watching it on porn, then trying it out on a dildo before attempting it for real! It takes practice to get good at it, and not all men like it. I don't think it's something that should dominate a blowjob either... I find that men generally seem to enjoy it best when I vary all my techniques, but I do try to read the reactions and linger on those techniques that seem to be hitting the spot the most!
* I suck and lick at the same time when I'm moving up and down rhythmically, but I also like to lick all the way up the outside of the shaft before wrapping my lips around the tip of the cock and sliding my mouth all the way down, using my tongue as I go, then sucking as I pull up. But, that's not the only technique - some men like it when I slide down with my mouth quite open, and then wrap my lips and tongue around as I come back up. I think it's important to vary speed also, and to use my hand (on the shaft or the balls). Some guys like a bit of gentle nibbling down the shaft, but for others teeth are an absolutely no-no. Deepthroat is all about angles, controlling the gag reflex and building up enough saliva so that it feels good for the guy.
* I love cum and one of the best sensations is to have a guy cum while I'm deepthroating... the cum just slides straight down my throat if it's all the way in! But that does mean that I miss out on the pleasure of tasting the man as he cums. Perhaps I enjoy cum so much because I'm with a woman, so being with a man and tasting cum is a relatively rare treat for me. I always suck as the guy cums, as I've been told that feels great. And I also love to lick the last drops of cum off the tip of a man's cock.

Quote by MidsCouple24
a common mistake for bi people is assuming that the person they are doing it with likes it done the same way as them which is not always the case.

I agree completely - my wife and I enjoy totally different things with oral sex, so I never assume that other women will like it the same way I like it. Again, it's all about communication and reading your sexual partner's reactions.

Quote by MidsCouple24
The common fault with blow jobs is that women do them for only 1 or 2 minutes

I find that surprising... especially on a swinging website. Personally, there is nothing that gets me wetter than performing oral on a man or a woman until I make them cum... and having a woman squirt all over my face is sensational! But, perhaps I shouldn't say that, as Mids says that women who say they like it only do it for 1 or 2 mins! lol

Quote by MidsCouple24
Or am I talking and believing crap ?

Only a little bit...! ;-) :rascal:

29 Jul 2012

Quote by Lilith
* I know how to deepthroat - I learned that by reading about the technique, watching it on porn, then trying it out on a dildo before attempting it for real! It takes practice to get good at it, and not all men like it. I don't think it's something that should dominate a blowjob either... I find that men generally seem to enjoy it best when I vary all my techniques, but I do try to read the reactions and linger on those techniques that seem to be hitting the spot the most!
* I suck and lick at the same time when I'm moving up and down rhythmically, but I also like to lick all the way up the outside of the shaft before wrapping my lips around the tip of the cock and sliding my mouth all the way down, using my tongue as I go, then sucking as I pull up. But, that's not the only technique - some men like it when I slide down with my mouth quite open, and then wrap my lips and tongue around as I come back up. I think it's important to vary speed also, and to use my hand (on the shaft or the balls). Some guys like a bit of gentle nibbling down the shaft, but for others teeth are an absolutely no-no. Deepthroat is all about angles, controlling the gag reflex and building up enough saliva so that it feels good for the guy.
* I love cum and one of the best sensations is to have a guy cum while I'm deepthroating... the cum just slides straight down my throat if it's all the way in! But that does mean that I miss out on the pleasure of tasting the man as he cums. Perhaps I enjoy cum so much because I'm with a woman, so being with a man and tasting cum is a relatively rare treat for me. I always suck as the guy cums, as I've been told that feels great. And I also love to lick the last drops of cum off the tip of a man's cock.

I need a cold shower now silly

hwoar:

29 Jul 2012

Quote by Steve
I need a cold shower now hwoar:

Blowjobs are great in cold showers too... flipa

29 Jul 2012

Quote by Lilith
I need a cold shower now hwoar:

Blowjobs are great in cold showers too... flipa

I find I have to be careful not to drown when I am on my knees giving a bj in a shower. :giggle:
I do agree with Lileth's other comments - bj's need practice, variety and concentration - but they are incredibly enjoyable to give, if you like that sort of thing anyway (which I do). If a person doesn't enjoy giving oral they will never get really good at it. And porn bj's are inherantly poor. Too much looking at the camera, deliberate gagging (if you are gagging you are doing it wrong), and too much hands and not enough tongue, sucking and lips. I would love to try to give a really good bj without using my hands at all. THAT would be a challenge.

29 Jul 2012

Quote by Trevaunance
Mids, You quoted me and then wrote a reply. Surely it's reasonable to assume that you were replying to the quote? If not then why quote it in the first place?
You also asked question directed at me. So your post wasn't a general discussion, it was aimed at me.
And for the record I am not the OP, so your barking up the wrong tree again.

Yea whatever, truth is I really have no interest in someone who swears at me in thier response no matter how you feel so let's do this, for the future you ignore me in entirety and I will ignore you then you don't have to be offensive to me.

29 Jul 2012

I think Lilith might well be one of those who indeed do give great head lol

judging by what she says

29 Jul 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
Yea whatever, truth is I really have no interest in someone who swears at me in thier response no matter how you feel so let's do this, for the future you ignore me in entirety and I will ignore you then you don't have to be offensive to me.

You really are a strange one mids. You quoted me and replied to the quote using several swear words, many times. You insult me as a straight guy asking bizzarre questions, and then you get holier than thou because I used a swear word too!
I'm looking forward to not having to read your response to this as you are ignoring me.
loon

29 Jul 2012

I guess reading, watching porn and practice are the best methods for learning how to give a good blow job, after all it's not something you want your parents to teach you like the other things they have to teach thier kids.
Asking friends wouldn't be the best option since many would be as clueless as we all are about sex at the starting out stage and probably give lot's of "hearsay" advice.
Thank god we do have internet porn now as old gits like me can still learn and when we were hitting puberty there wasnt such a training aid available. lol

29 Jul 2012

Quote by foxylady2209
if you are gagging you are doing it wrong

:thumbup:
So many people seem to think that you'll gag if you try to deepthroat, but the whole point is to control the gag reflex and open up the throat... It does take practice, but is *so* worth the effort to learn!

30 Jul 2012

Having only recently been introduced to the joys of deep-throat by a very consummate artiste I have to say the sensation is not quite what I was expecting. The surprising thing for me was the tightness I felt as I entered her throat. When you see it on porn it looks like it doesn't touch the sides, but that's not the case - there's quite some resistance and it took me some time to get used to the feeling. As Lilith said above, a variation of technique made the overall experience far more enjoyable. The other thing that I found difficult was convincing myself that I wasn't choking her, despite her not gagging.
Overall it's definitely something I enjoyed and would love to do again, but it wouldn't be half as nice in isolation. :thumbup:

30 Jul 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
I think most would have realised that my answer and personal opinion was just a general submission on the topic, the fact that I discussed pussy licking and blow jobs, the fact that this is a forum for general conversation and debate about a subject means that not all comments are aimed at the OP and not everything is about you, when you start a topic in here it is for everyone to discuss with each other, if you want answers directed back only at you, perhaps you should try mailing individuals for thier personal opinion or stating in your opening thread that you don't want the subject to be discussed between everyone and just personal answers to you but hey, talking crap at times is something we all do so I don't feel bad if I did this time

I think it was a vey valid point of view - and at one point almost cracked one off.... purely for research!!! : smile

30 Jul 2012

Quote by Lilith
If you want a good blow job or pleasureable pussy licking you have to communicate with the person doing it, let them know how you like it.

Quote by MidsCouple24
If you want to give someone a good pussy licking or blow job you have to communicate with the person your doing it to and find out how they like it done, or at the very least look for thier reaction to what your doing and find out for yourself what they like.

I couldn't agree more - communication is essential for sex generally, in my opinion. I derive most of my own pleasure from pleasing my sexual partner, and there is nothing worse than not knowing whether or not I'm using the right techniques for the person I'm with. Some people are very responsive - both physically and aurally - which makes it easier to respond and react. Other people are incredibly quiet and difficult to read, and I often find myself asking questions about what they want and like in those situations. I like feedback - I want to know that I'm doing things the way they want them done...

Quote by MidsCouple24
A lot of women do think they are great at blow jobs, but can I ask, how did you learn how to do it, do you study porn videos to see different techniques ? do you ask the guy your with ? have you learned how to deepthroat ? do you actually suck cock or do you lick it, having you cock sucked is the often the ultimate experience for most guys, ladies who actually do suck the cum right out of it are normally the best blow jobbers.

I've never been told that I'm bad at either blowjobs or licking pussy, but that doesn't mean anything (I agree with the op... how many people would be honest and tell you if they didn't enjoy it...?!!). But, on the other hand, if a guy/girl didn't enjoy it, I doubt they'd say it was amazing... so, I always figure that if someone tells me afterwards how great it was, then I must have done something right!
In answer to your questions about blowjobs:
* I learned through practice primarily, but I also asked my sexual partners questions, read about techniques and talked to others. I've always been very sexually experimental, and I *love* learning and trying new techniques.
* I know how to deepthroat - I learned that by reading about the technique, watching it on porn, then trying it out on a dildo before attempting it for real! It takes practice to get good at it, and not all men like it. I don't think it's something that should dominate a blowjob either... I find that men generally seem to enjoy it best when I vary all my techniques, but I do try to read the reactions and linger on those techniques that seem to be hitting the spot the most!
* I suck and lick at the same time when I'm moving up and down rhythmically, but I also like to lick all the way up the outside of the shaft before wrapping my lips around the tip of the cock and sliding my mouth all the way down, using my tongue as I go, then sucking as I pull up. But, that's not the only technique - some men like it when I slide down with my mouth quite open, and then wrap my lips and tongue around as I come back up. I think it's important to vary speed also, and to use my hand (on the shaft or the balls). Some guys like a bit of gentle nibbling down the shaft, but for others teeth are an absolutely no-no. Deepthroat is all about angles, controlling the gag reflex and building up enough saliva so that it feels good for the guy.
* I love cum and one of the best sensations is to have a guy cum while I'm deepthroating... the cum just slides straight down my throat if it's all the way in! But that does mean that I miss out on the pleasure of tasting the man as he cums. Perhaps I enjoy cum so much because I'm with a woman, so being with a man and tasting cum is a relatively rare treat for me. I always suck as the guy cums, as I've been told that feels great. And I also love to lick the last drops of cum off the tip of a man's cock.

Quote by MidsCouple24
a common mistake for bi people is assuming that the person they are doing it with likes it done the same way as them which is not always the case.

I agree completely - my wife and I enjoy totally different things with oral sex, so I never assume that other women will like it the same way I like it. Again, it's all about communication and reading your sexual partner's reactions.

Quote by MidsCouple24
The common fault with blow jobs is that women do them for only 1 or 2 minutes

I find that surprising... especially on a swinging website. Personally, there is nothing that gets me wetter than performing oral on a man or a woman until I make them cum... and having a woman squirt all over my face is sensational! But, perhaps I shouldn't say that, as Mids says that women who say they like it only do it for 1 or 2 mins! lol

Quote by MidsCouple24
Or am I talking and believing crap ?

Only a little bit...! ;-) :rascal:
Read that all Lillipoo - I can only say....thankyou - it was good for me....and do you have the number of a dry cleaners who does ' difficult stains' smile

30 Jul 2012

I agree with pretty much everything MidsCouple24 said
I learnt to give head, and deep throat by reading about it, and listening to my partners. I think a characteristic that makes people good at oral is being flexible. Like you said, both guys and girls differ in terms of what they like, and in part, if you are getting bad oral, you need to help out your partner and give them a few tips, or direction. Though that can be easier said than done, if your partner responds with 'well non one ever complained before' you know they have a 'one size supposedly fits all method', which may be difficult to break
Im quite glad that guys have different ways of licking my pussy, as through that I have learnt about different ways I enjoy being touched
Going back to the original points of this conversation. I have met many many men who proclaim to be able to perform the best oral in the universe, then when it gets down to it, they wont perform any kind of oral let alone the best you have ever had
Furthermore, when it comes to informing someone accurately about their performance, I know you guys don't like to hear that you are a disappointment, but I have told several guys that 'yes indeed it does matter, and that is not what I came here for, and Im certainly not gonna bother coming again'. I believe that by lying to guys and pretending that our satisfaction as females is secondary really does nothing for our gender as a whole. But it is about how you broach that topic, there is a big difference between constructive criticism and being downright insulting