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I speak fluent Welsh, although it's a bit rusty after so many years on the wrong side of the border, and sign language, as well as a smattering of French.
Quote by Manolishi
Although born and bred in N Wales i don't speak the language i found it really difficult at school to learn it and kinda regret it now
I cant imagine thinking in another language must be like being on another planet/country :doh: just realised it is
well different country anyway
Just an after thought but it would come in well handy when you wanted to send your addy in a message on a site that didnt allow them i wonder what mine is in welsh (oops did i say that on here)

Just slightly off topic I suppose, however - I also wish I knew a bit of Welsh.
the only reason is that when I walked into a deepest darkest pub in Wales, and the English chatter stopped to be replaced by Welsh I knew what they were talking about.
I took a few guesses, but was never to sure ...........
You want to visit South Wales, I'm English and the people here have always been very friendly. Just don't do it while the rugby's on.
H.
Well you did ask!
Having lived and worked in both places I can say that I am pretty good in French and can get by in Dutch.(The Dutch all speak Ennglish anyway so it is good to be able to understand what they are saying)!
At present I am rying to get my head round Czech to understand Mrs. McC but funnily enough we seem to manage in the important things without speaking about it too much!
McC
Only two I'm affraid
Posh and Common
I,m currently trying to learn french confused i can say the words in context and can understand conversations smile but can i get the accent right :doh: , somebody told me once that the northern accent was,nt made to speak a foreign language and i,m beginning to think thats right :small-print: when i,m speaking my sentances i sound half yorkshire and half scouse redface :giggle:
( not that theres anything wrong with these accents ) innocent
I'm quite proficient in foul language lol
but on a serious note i do British Sign Language but you do lose a lot of it through lack of use
Earthy
I can speak basic conversational French and a very small amount of rusty German, in addition to a few key phrases in Japanese, Spanish, Russian, and a few other languages (nothing fancy, just hello, goodbye, how are you? kind of stuff).
A few years ago when I was a hardcore sysadmin I could type fluent HTTP, SMTP, and Postscript, so I could talk directly to web servers, email servers, and printers respectively in order to work out why they were going wrong, but they've definitely slipped my mind since I stopped using them on a daily basis.
One thing I would say is that I've found it a lot easier to work with human languages after I'd done a course for my diploma where we covered designing and implementing programming languages - the theory behind grammars and the construction of languages is the same whoever or whatever you're talking to (I was reading the same papers by Noam Chomsky that my mate who'd done an English degree had had to read), I suppose in that sense, I'm more interesting in linguistics than learning languages, though I'd really like to learn at least a bit of BSL.
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I,m currently trying to learn french confused i can say the words in context and can understand conversations smile but can i get the accent right :doh: , somebody told me once that the northern accent was,nt made to speak a foreign language and i,m beginning to think thats right :small-print: when i,m speaking my sentances i sound half yorkshire and half scouse redface :giggle:
( not that theres anything wrong with these accents ) innocent

I tried to learn french, without much luck - but my accent wasn't bad. My tutor told me to practice by speaking english with a french accent, gets you used to the sounds without having to think about what you're saying. But I don't have much of an accent to start with so that might make it easier.
A freind of mine speaks Welsh with a Brummy accent. Sounds very odd!
Right bit of deviation, but does anyone still speak or even remember that great universal language called Esperanto confused confused confused
Various attempts were made through my school years to get me speaking French, German, and Japanese. None of it stuck. I was left with the feeling that I'm incapable of learning another language. It's a shame, because I'd love to be able to speak at least one.
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Right bit of deviation, but does anyone still speak or even remember that great universal language called Esperanto confused confused confused

Yeh, great idea, ranks up there with the Euro.
I'm good at languages. I'm not boasting. I am.
I can give any budding language students a very small number of tips.
Learn the verbs. Every sentence has one. "To be" and" to have" are the most important ones. For the others, it might be surprising how few you need. A dozen or so will get you conversational.
Vocabulary - by which I mean mostly knowlege of nouns, is not so important. You will learn the nouns you need and forget the ones you don't. And I haven't thought too much about it but all those little words - prepositions and whatnot are pretty well interchangeable. It doesn't really matter which one you use.
I like learning to converse in other lbnguages. I never feel stupid when I get the language wrong and most people are as eager to help as we would be helping a foreigner here. I think I have made more friends here and there just by letting them help me.
Mollie x x x
I'm good at languages. I'm not boasting. I am.
I can give any budding language students a very small number of tips.
Learn the verbs. Every sentence has one. "To be" and" to have" are the most important ones. For the others, it might be surprising how few you need. A dozen or so will get you conversational.
Vocabulary - by which I mean mostly knowlege of nouns, is not so important. You will learn the nouns you need and forget the ones you don't. And I haven't thought too much about it but all those little words - prepositions and whatnot are pretty well interchangeable. It doesn't really matter which one you use.
I like learning to converse in other lbnguages. I never feel stupid when I get the language wrong and most people are as eager to help as we would be helping a foreigner here. I think I have made more friends here and there just by letting them help me.
Mollie x x x
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Right bit of deviation, but does anyone still speak or even remember that great universal language called Esperanto confused confused confused

Lmao, I remember Esperanto, even learnt some! lol
I speak french, but not as well as I used to, as I don't practice it, and I know bits of Spanish and Irish.
I wan't to learn spanish properly, but never have the time!
Googling something or other - I can't even remember. I have found the emost amazing site.

As far as I can see it translates anything from anywhere to anything from anywhere.
Mollie
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Googling something or other - I can't even remember. I have found the emost amazing site.

As far as I can see it translates anything from anywhere to anything from anywhere.
Mollie

It doesnt do danish confused I had a transcript to translate and tried to take a short cut... alas I had to do it all. confused rolleyes
Quote by maidinheaven
Googling something or other - I can't even remember. I have found the emost amazing site.

As far as I can see it translates anything from anywhere to anything from anywhere.
Mollie

It's been around for quite some time and although good, it does have some failings - mind you don't we all.
A while ago I tried to use it to get on the good side of an attractive German lady.
When she wrote back, telling me to fuck off, I reckon I had probably made a small error with a verb translation. rolleyes
babelfish is great if you keep feeding it what it spirts out ( :shock: )
Put a line in, get it translate it, take that and translate it into something else etc etc.
I get bored a lot.......
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babelfish is great if you keep feeding it what it spirts out ( :shock: )
Put a line in, get it translate it, take that and translate it into something else etc etc.
I get bored a lot.......

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has sat and done that one! lol redface
Yes, sorry about that. I was just so overwhelmed that I didn't realise the limitations. I have acquaintances of many nationalities and when I write I try to use as much of their own languages as possible. So far no Danish.
I thought - here I can check my own translations. But on reflection the truth is that it is best to do it on my own. But it is nice, yes?
I haven't tried putting "Fuck Off" into it. I'll do that now.
Mollie
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I,m currently trying to learn french confused i can say the words in context and can understand conversations smile but can i get the accent right :doh: , somebody told me once that the northern accent was,nt made to speak a foreign language and i,m beginning to think thats right :small-print: when i,m speaking my sentances i sound half yorkshire and half scouse redface :giggle:
( not that theres anything wrong with these accents ) innocent

I tried to learn french, without much luck - but my accent wasn't bad. My tutor told me to practice by speaking english with a french accent, gets you used to the sounds without having to think about what you're saying. But I don't have much of an accent to start with so that might make it easier.
A freind of mine speaks Welsh with a Brummy accent. Sounds very odd!
That sounds like good advice, ! the trouble is i,m not very good with accents even speaking english redface
But i,ll give it a try lol
I speak Indonesian, Malay and some Cantonese...grew up in the Far East. But I'd love to learn to speak more. It feels great to be able to converse and communicate with people wherever you are. And it can be uncomfortable just expectuing other people to speak English to you in their country...even if they do!
Give it a go - Swahili's supposed to be a fairly easy one to learn. A bit like Malay... You can pick up books or tapes in shops or libraries.
Love to be able to speak French and Spanish...but have been lazy and not really tried...
Brummy accent...some might consider that odd without the welsh!! Try it with a black country accent!
Quote by sexyann57
I,m currently trying to learn french confused i can say the words in context and can understand conversations smile but can i get the accent right :doh: , somebody told me once that the northern accent was,nt made to speak a foreign language and i,m beginning to think thats right :small-print: when i,m speaking my sentances i sound half yorkshire and half scouse redface :giggle:
( not that theres anything wrong with these accents ) innocent

I tried to learn french, without much luck - but my accent wasn't bad. My tutor told me to practice by speaking english with a french accent, gets you used to the sounds without having to think about what you're saying. But I don't have much of an accent to start with so that might make it easier.
A freind of mine speaks Welsh with a Brummy accent. Sounds very odd!
That sounds like good advice, ! the trouble is i,m not very good with accents even speaking english redface
But i,ll give it a try lol
I'm not good with quote boxes, ok? And sorry if I'm bringing back to life a thread properly gone.
I do believe that a "Northern" accent is an advantage if you are learning German. Posh english uses vowels which are actually two vowels. To a southerner "A" sounds like aa-ee, yes? I think it's called a dipthong. To a northerner and a German it just sounds like "aa". My northern boyfriend speaks German better than me and he has sometimes been mistaken for German by Germans.
Mollie
some latin for you all...
no lite de facare in gradium teum
it means " dont shit on your own doorstep"
wink
Quote by mike48
Although born and bred in N Wales i don't speak the language i found it really difficult at school to learn it and kinda regret it now
I cant imagine thinking in another language must be like being on another planet/country :doh: just realised it is
well different country anyway
Just an after thought but it would come in well handy when you wanted to send your addy in a message on a site that didnt allow them i wonder what mine is in welsh (oops did i say that on here)

Julie the same, myself went to school in north wales and like J wish we had the time to pick up the welsh language again as a few of our friends speak it, we can just get by with the odd word or two.
J n B
I learned German at school but never used it until I started going there regularly with work. I reckon that if you get one other language - and it doesn't seem to matter which - you get a much better understanding of English and can spot links with languages you don't know. So that makes life easier once you start.
I'd love to learn Welsh - seems to be a theme here. My house is called Ty Llwynog (Foxes' Place biggrin)