Personally I had always assumed them to mean the same thing.....
But I'm happy to be proved wrong ;-)
I have orgasm'd once without ejaculating, and ejaculated a few times without orgasming. But I could never manage to repeat either of those on command. It just seems to happen on its own once in a blue moon.
I know that those who practice tantra can do one without the other.... and I have been with one bloke who did with me.
I am no expert on men but other than those who practice tantra normally can if, like Kentswingers said, they have cum many times and have nothing left. The men who have done that in my company normally look like they are having a heart attack and describe it as more intense.
It happens to me upon occasion. Not sure if its any better. What is better is an orgasm that results from the gentlest slow stimulation that takes an hour or two. Now that is mind blowing.
Kaz, the only orgasms I've had without ejaculating have been anally induced. It's a very different feeling to the usual type of genital orgasm - something more like a full body thing than yer everyday orgasm centred around a single point, with full-on head rushes, stars, the works. More like the kind of orgasm I'm led to believe you girlies have? ;) They're very rare, but wipe me out completely when they do happen.
Neil x x x ;)
I don't want to knock the male orgasm, I enjoy one as much as the next bloke but what comes before and after is ten times better.
Only time Ive ever ejaculated without an orgasm is if I am trying to stop and dont time it right. Then I just leak ejaculate and dont get the orgasm. I can normally build back up to orgasm again afterwards.
I felt I had to add to this thread, living with my sexy fiance who regularly enjoy's multipule squirting orgasm's WOW i'd love to experience her orgasms!! As for orgasm without ejaculation have had it happen a couple of times but not many through out my limited (no comment your honour, honestly!) experience.
Only ever experienced "dry cummin" after cumming/orgasming lots of times. I'm suspicious of tantra orgasms i think its just egotistic and a self induced head fuck I reckon. Maybe I'm secretly envious but i dont think so.
What I have found about dry cumming is that fot me it hurts. An ex of mine and I once tried to see how many times I could perform in a day. Every cum after the third was dry and painful, in the end resulting in me giving up trying, though I could of carried on getting erections without a problem.