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Just a thought, if us single blokes struggle so hard to give it away for nothing how on earth do the male prossies make a living. It would be interesting to hear a females point of view especially if they have at some time 'paid' for services
Quote by racer3
Just a thought, if us single blokes struggle so hard to give it away for nothing how on earth do the male prossies make a living. It would be interesting to hear a females point of view especially if they have at some time 'paid' for services

I suspect you are making an invalid assumption about the gender of male prostitutes' clients.
I think most male prostitutes get paid by other geezers, so the issue is irrelevant
Great minds think alike, Ice Pie! lol
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Great minds think alike, Ice Pie! lol

No doubt they do, but what's our excuse? :lol2:
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Great minds think alike, Ice Pie! lol

No doubt they do, but what's our excuse? :lol2:
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rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
fastest response ive ever had to a post. I do take your point but there is no doubt that the male hookers do entertain ladies as well. I must admit i hadnt taken the other issue in account but I wasnt really interested in their income, just wondered how they succeed while we struggle.
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fastest response ive ever had to a post. I do take your point but there is no doubt that the male hookers do entertain ladies as well. I must admit i hadnt taken the other issue in account but I wasnt really interested in their income, just wondered how they succeed while we struggle.

The point is, if male prostitutes relied on making a living from female clients they would quickly starve. There may be a few women who pay for services, maybe when they want something very specific, but in the mian clients of both male and female prostitutes are men. That is a fact. Therefore, in answer to your question, it is not a matter of them succeeding at all.
I was reading an article in the other half womens mag about male prostitutes in the far east servicing large numbers of female sex tourists from the uk...
I think some of the reasons stated was women wanting to be in control, casual sex but on their terms.
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it is not a matter of them succeeding at all.

Indeed it is a matter of them sucking something quite different
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I was reading an article in the other half womens mag about male prostitutes in the far east servicing large numbers of female sex tourists from the uk...

Any what else would you put to try and promote a visit to a place that survives on tourism?
No, what Blue and Ice has said is true, you got to entertain men to make it as a male escort.
Were you thinking of taking it up as a career racer? lol :lol:
There is no way on this earth i would pay for sex, or be paid for sex. Although I dont disagree with prostitution when it comes to licenced establishments, standing on street corners is just down right seedy. Anyone who looks for sex in this way is either desperate or mad.
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There is no way on this earth i would pay for sex, or be paid for sex. Although I dont disagree with prostitution when it comes to licenced establishments, standing on street corners is just down right seedy. Anyone who looks for sex in this way is either desperate or mad.

I agree with that. I would definately be keen to see licensed brothels where workers are protected, both health and safety wise and also under employment laws. It would also help to solve the problem of teenage girls putting themselves at risk on the streets, child prostitution and the public nuisance caused by streetwalkers and kerbcrawlers.
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There is no way on this earth i would pay for sex, or be paid for sex. Although I dont disagree with prostitution when it comes to licenced establishments, standing on street corners is just down right seedy. Anyone who looks for sex in this way is either desperate or mad.

I agree with that. I would definately be keen to see licensed brothels where workers are protected, both health and safety wise and also under employment laws. It would also help to solve the problem of teenage girls putting themselves at risk on the streets, child prostitution and the public nuisance caused by streetwalkers and kerbcrawlers.
To be honest, even if licensed premises became a reality, there would still be young girls willing to sell themselves, and more often than not its to fund a drug habit forced onto them by their pimp. At the end of the day its easy money for very little work. I really think that licensed premises are the way to go for both male and female prostitutes.
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I was reading an article in the other half womens mag about male prostitutes in the far east servicing large numbers of female sex tourists from the uk...

Any what else would you put to try and promote a visit to a place that survives on tourism?
No, what Blue and Ice has said is true, you got to entertain men to make it as a male escort.
I would agree with you in the UK, although my experience of male prostitution only goes as far as being accused of being one once (wrongly I might add, just a bored cop fishing for why he had done a stop n search on me)
As for these guys in the far east, they all have jobs in the bars as dancers, waiters, etc. The bars target the young female tourist, sure some guys go there as well, maybe there you can get paid for sex only with ladies.
Lets not romanticise this though, sex for money is a job, it is nothing like the pleasure of sharing someone, as you would in a swinging sense. Not to say no prostitute (of either sex) has never enjoyed what they are doing, but as a rule I doubt it happens that often.
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There is no way on this earth i would pay for sex, or be paid for sex. Although I dont disagree with prostitution when it comes to licenced establishments, standing on street corners is just down right seedy. Anyone who looks for sex in this way is either desperate or mad.

I agree with that. I would definately be keen to see licensed brothels where workers are protected, both health and safety wise and also under employment laws. It would also help to solve the problem of teenage girls putting themselves at risk on the streets, child prostitution and the public nuisance caused by streetwalkers and kerbcrawlers.
To be honest, even if licensed premises became a reality, there would still be young girls willing to sell themselves, and more often than not its to fund a drug habit forced onto them by their pimp. At the end of the day its easy money for very little work. I really think that licensed premises are the way to go for both male and female prostitutes.
I agree with you pinkbubble, in Amsterdam you still have the 'unlicensed' sex trade, willing to do anything for cost of next fix. The main advantage of legalised brothels and safe zones is the route out of destitution. Prostitution is often the way people go when they see no other way out, no doubt often caused by drugs, or these days as they were smuggled into the country.
However not everyone is in prostitution for these reasons, some people chose to do it, to supplement a low income, or because they want to. The lucky ones end up working for themselves for escort agencies, and staying one step to the left of breaking any laws. The laws are meant to protect the girls (and boys) of this world, from exploitation, not stop prostitution. They don't seem to be working.
Legal areas and brothels let you help those that want to do it to offer a good service, tempting the punters away from the repressed prostitutes under the control of a series of low life pimps. You wont eradicate exploitation, but we can make it rarer, and easier to spot and come down hard on those doing it.
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Just side tracking a bit !
I live in a red light district , an the amount of times the plod pull me for kerb crawling has got a joke ! an the young ones think I'm even after men !!! but I have no record and a letter to the chief has stopped that ! .....must get rid of dirty mac !

Glad I not the only one to have been wrongly accused then smile
Get in the real world you lot!!!
Yes, there are male escorts, but, they are very cheap............
Ladies don't struggle for sex, and because of that, they don't have to pay for it.
Guys on the other hand, sorry SOME guys, do - for the obvious reason that no woman in their right mind would want to.
Harsh, but true
Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order
I love single males, but would never pay for it. Why would I?
Love Claire
Harsh, but true
Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order

You might want to rethink that one!
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Harsh, but true
Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order

You might want to rethink that one!
Not all single guys on here are idiots after a quick shag, some of them are sweet, sensitive guys, regardless of looks, cock size etc.
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Get in the real world you lot!!!

Nice place to visit, but would hate to live there...
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Yes, there are male escorts, but, they are very cheap............
Ladies don't struggle for sex, and because of that, they don't have to pay for it.

Not true, quick shag maybe not too hard to arrange, if you want quick, guilt free, ties free, and I assume good sex in a hurry and you don't swing maybe you would pay?
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Guys on the other hand, sorry SOME guys, do - for the obvious reason that no woman in their right mind would want to.

Um explain this a bit? I know most guys are more driven than some women, but not only guys have trouble finding a partner that fits around work, social life, and everything else you know smile
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Harsh, but true
Single male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particular order
I love single males, but would never pay for it. Why would I?
Love Claire

For the reasons above, understand you would not pay for sex, I doubt many swingers would. For starters goes against the ethos of swinging, it not the fact that sex is 'easy' to get or not easy, it is a principle thing with most swingers, sexuality is something they share, you don't get that with a prostitute.
As for single male swingers, yes the successful ones need something, just like anyone in a social scene, to be themselves. There are more males than females in swinging scene that is true, and there are lots of upset 'but I thought I would get a shags' out there. Equally there are a silent lot of very happy males quietly getting on with everything. Are they all 'exceptional', well I am sure they are genuine open people, and that counts for a lot more than any physical attribute IMHO
Only my opinion - not having a go
Don't bite my head off, I need it!
Love
Claire
xx
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Yes, there are male escorts, but, they are very cheap............

They're comparatively cheap. If you put the typical male escort's rate against what I earn by the hour, I bet he's still better off. (Yes, I know it's not a fair comparison - yon male escort won't be earning 8 hours a day regular, and you have to take business expenses off his fee - waxing, gym membership, penis-enlargement injections, condoms, etc. And then there's an agency fee if he's working for one. But I'm guessing many male escorts do it as a sideline, as well as a more traditional job. Plenty of female escorts also have a second job, FWIW.)
Quote by manofmuchfun
Don't bite my head off, I need it!

stupid i know? ............need what ?
I think she means her head.
I'm not sure that Cumclaire_again's said anything shocking here - there are a hell of a lot of single guys out there and so it stands to reason that only ones who in some way stand out from the crowd will make a satisfaction of a swinging desire. They do need to be in some way 'exceptional' - exceptionally large penis, exceptionally handsome, exceptionally muscular, exceptionally charming, exceptionally nice & sensitive & sweet, exceptionally romantic... exceptionally something. Otherwise...
Male prostitutes have prodominantly male clients.... yes, yes, I know that point has been made.....
however.....
There are many, many male escorts making a very good living in the UK.
Yes, they are all 'hunks'... no mingers really make it.
No, they are not cheap.... at least I don't consider paying £300-£1000+ to take a guy to dinner (pay for that) and get a jump (if it is in a hotel - pay for that too) cheap!
Would I pay - hell NO!, I'll take my chances with the freebies lol
Who pays? Business women, too busy to arrange something in a more traditional way. Financially very comfortable women, who either don't know about or have no intention of becoming involved in the swinging scene or any other scene.
Why do they pay? They can afford it! It gives the appearance of being safer than most alternatives (using an established agency). They choose where and when to suit thier needs (with as little hassle as ordering a take-away). They get to choose from a range of very fit, good-looking, intelligent males - who they can be pretty sure will show them a fantastic time, treat them how they want to be treated, say all the right things and then disappear totally.
Most of the successful agencies are in or around London, but they do exsist all over the UK (thought they rates tend to be cheaper up north).
How do I know this - I thought everyone knew it, there have been several documentaries made on the subject. A friend of mine was a male escort for a while (just long enough to earn the money he needed to move to Barbados and open his own business!)
I am shocked :shock: at some of the naivety.
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Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order
Love Claire

I'm not good looking
Ive not excatly got a body to die for
My cock size is nothing to write home about
fair enough my personallity aint too bad.
and i've had my fair share of meets and fun... so i tend to desagree on this point.
JGL
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Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order
Love Claire

I assume you mean for you personally? Not all swingers have the same criteria, and a lot of the regulars on this forum most definitely would put those attributes in a particular order, with personality at the top and the rest pretty much nowhere. If your statement applied to everyone I'd be wasting my time here.
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I assume you mean for you personally? Not all swingers have the same criteria, and a lot of the regulars on this forum most definitely would put those attributes in a particular order, with personality at the top and the rest pretty much nowhere. If your statement applied to everyone I'd be wasting my time here.

Ice there is no doubt that personality comes first on my list.
I can have fun with a guy who has a small member if he has hands and a tongue.
As for body, doesn't worry me that much cos everyone is different dunno
Now looks is more about sexual attraction. I can happily think a guy is very attractive but he does 'do it' for me.
So a guy who is hung like a donkey and knows it plus looks like a model is just not going to work for me. Someone that shows respect and that can make me laugh without being pushy gets me everytime biggrin
Dawn :silly:
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Sinlge male swingers HAVE to be exceptional - looks, body, cock size., personality in no particualr order
Love Claire

As defender of the common man lol I feel I must make the following comment:
Thank god NOT all the men are exceptional, looks, body, cock size (excludes personality from this comment) for two principal reasons;
1 - that 'type' of guy is usually (generalising here) so far up themselves, they almost disappear up their own ego!
2 - the door swings bothways - as in - if they were all so bloody perfect - wouldn't they expect all the women to be PERFECT too!
Isn't this the wonder of the world - there is something in it for everyone!