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im a married female who swings without my husbands consent (call it cheating if u want)
no one knows the circumstances in others lifes and not all r lucky enough to b able to b open about it
i havnt met anyone so far who has been bothered by it, mayb cus im married they think il not get all emotionally caught up in it and if they r married then they wud b less worried bout it causing trouble at home
anyway, i hav always been honest bout being married and im not gonna stop smile
Quote by tweeky
From someone not in the in crown I can see both points of view here. Seems like a bit of ganging up going on, give it a rest you are not going to agree.
Mr Tweeky

Starman asked for opinions, that's what he's getting - he didn't ask for everyone to agree. Nobody is 'ganging up' on him.
Quote by starmanxx
I welcolm opinions and advice.

I really don't know what kind of advice he wants though.
Blimey, I log off early and this happens!
2p in metre.....tick tick tick.
I'm single but my swing partner is in a relationship. She is fully aware of him swinging. If she wasn't I wouldn't see him.
If a guy is honest enough to say his married he shouldn't be berated for it, but maybe he should be encouraged to extend this honesty to his wife, however I know that each relationship is different and each person has there own reasons for doing what they do. The reason for him swinging may be to explore his bi side, which his wife couldn't help with anyway, and he may not feel comfortable talking to her about it.
As for a woman swinging without her husbands consent, my feelings on that are exactly the same as for a man. Deceit is deceit regardless of gender.
On a more practical note, another reason for not seeing another married man is that they can generally only meet at silly times and spend thier hole time glancing at thier watch. A tiny bit off putting!
Clang.....2p over.
H.x
Quote by ls
im a married female who swings without my husbands consent (call it cheating if u want)
no one knows the circumstances in others lifes and not all r lucky enough to b able to b open about it
i havnt met anyone so far who has been bothered by it, mayb cus im married they think il not get all emotionally caught up in it and if they r married then they wud b less worried bout it causing trouble at home
anyway, i hav always been honest bout being married and im not gonna stop smile

That's the point Neil was making; that nobody has asked or that they aren't bothered by it. Good for you, if people are willing/happy to meet you. Same applies to married men. All I was saying is that we don't all need the excuses and sob stories that someof them roll out. If people are happy to play with them, I doubt they want to know their life story anyway.
let he/she who knows ALL the facts be the judge ................the rest of us just go with instinct cos thats all we have.................
staggy
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married people do whatever you feel is right for you and your circumstances because you know whats best!
this life is more than just a read through
The reaction of those offended by the ‘cheater’ can be quite a complex issue. It is not always purely based on the simple view of “he is a cheat”.
For those who share an open and honest relationship and the honesty of that relationship forms the foundation of their shared principles for being involved in swinging - of course someone announcing they are looking for a bit behind their partners back is going to sit uncomfortably (to say the least). It is the total opposite of the values and principles which they hold and more often than not - practice.
Some will take into account the possible outcome and devastation to this person’s partner - should their antics be discovered. It is difficult to praise and warmly welcome someone who by their actions is likely do hurt someone else. Again this goes against the principles of swinging which a number of people hold.
I am sure that women who set out to deceive their partners by looking for a crafty shag on the side don’t get the same degree of grief the men get and get unlimited offers for company - But isn't that is due to the vast number of eager cocks which will be happy to find any port in a storm with no questions asked.
However, I have said this before on more than one occasion - it is difficult to continuously apply some principles and avoid hypocrisy in many aspects of swinging. But, is it really that surprising that those who go out of their way to ensure their values and principles are upheld then appear to be ridged in what is allowed and acceptable?
There are some (not all - I said ‘some‘) activities I involve myself in (under the broad banner of swinging) where I have no interest in who this person really is, their status, their liberty to swing - because the moment is then and the situation is right. I am hardly going to ask the proceedings to halt whilst I interview the participants.
There are plenty of couples who it makes not one iota of difference if their guest for the evening is married or not - as has already been said, it can be an advantage if the guy is married as they are less likely to hassle the couples later.
So - do married men with an unsuspecting wife at home stand a chance in the swinging scene…
Yes they do.
Do I think it is right…
Not really - my preference is for honesty …. but I accept it happens and that there are some situations where I just don‘t care.
Should they get a public slating when they announce they are married and seeking a bit on the side…
Probably yes, for being dumb enough to think nobody would mind or even briefly thinking all swingers are without morals, values and principles that relate to this action. Are they not really saying… I am about to lie to my partner about something which would deeply hurt them, - it is hard to reply to that with hip-hip-hooray!
Should they have publicly kept their gob shut to the masses - yet been open and honest to those they arrange to meet….
Yes - that would have been a better move.
What bugs me about this kind of thread/post….
The justification sob story. Why should anyone think a sob story will make their actions acceptable. Why should the sob story make a blind bit of difference to the actions they are taking. You have chosen what it is you are going to do (just as we all make choices when becoming involved in the swinging scene) - don’t try and dress it up as you having no choice. That is the bollocks that sits uncomfortably with me. You have chosen to have sex behind your partner’s back - you have chosen to try to have your cake and eat it - save the “I am only human” sob/sympathy story for them when they find out.
What she said :thumbup:
I agree, brilliant post Polo, says it all. :thumbup:
Blody hell Polo Lady, you are really living up to the 'Agony Aunt' name, a few more posts like that and we will all be worship and bowing at your feet (mind you, some do that already) wink
Quote by freckledbird
Pololady, absolutely excellent post.

Isn't it just, I don't know why I posted when I should have just waited for PoloLady to do all the hard work biggrin
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Pololady, absolutely excellent post.

Isn't it just, I don't know why I posted when I should have just waited for PoloLady to do all the hard work biggrin
Thinking something similar here. Im not going to do any more posts, Im just going to wait till Polo Lady comes along, spends ages doing a bloody brilliant post, and then I can just add that I agree with her lol
Quote by PoloLady
Should they get a public slating when they announce they are married and seeking a bit on the side…
Probably yes, for being dumb enough to think nobody would mind or even briefly thinking all swingers are without morals, values and principles that relate to this action. .
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I personally think that is why a lot of guys who swing alone,I wont say single because we have already established that some are not,get such a lot of flack here and no doubt other places just like this......If there are any places like this....
I see many in the chatrooms who you can tell just by what they type are here for a quick shag while their wife/partner is at work and fully believe that swingers have no morals etc and are just looking for the next notch on the bedpost,banister rail,tree or where ever they like to do it.
On the other hand there are many guys who are polite and well mannered and everyone knows they are married/in a relationship and have no problem with that purely and simply because of the way they conduct themselves...
I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of "playing away" because it is a war zone that I have no wish to enter to be perfectly honest and as many of you will know I am married but have my wifes blessing to have some solo fun provided we both agree on who it is with.......As with our decision to go solo from time to time the decision of who it is with is a joint one as well....
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I am touched and a little overwhelmed.
Fan club - form a queue on the right :grin:
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Stop blushing hun. wink
You know your words are true.
A great post that should be up with the stickies kiss
Phredd :love:
Completely agree with pololady ... if you're going to annouce it to the world then you have to expect a backlash. If you are married and cheating then fine, do it discreetly and don't underestimate the people you want to do it with.
C x
Quote by Calista
Completely agree with pololady ... if you're going to annouce it to the world then you have to expect a backlash. If you are married and cheating then fine, do it discreetly and don't underestimate the people you want to do it with.
C x

one of them could turn out to be your wife's best mate :shock: :giggle:
Well I thought I would browse threads for a change as I had free 10minutes smile
I am surprised some of you get time for swinging at all with time spent answerring here
:)
I also know for a fact people off this site who swing as cpls but also alone without partners consent!!! ( Not from personal experience tho, from friends who have of course) But that is not to say they all do.
I also know for a fact there are some couples who advertise for couples only but will also meet guys, they just say that in ads to deter toooooo many crap replies :-) Which is probably a good idea, but most guys would probably ignore the ad and reply anyway!!
Each to their own I say as everyone is entitled to their own opinion and dont have to reply to ads if they dont want to and dont have to meet if you dont want to, but also should not try to impose morals on others, like being in church biggrin
hello oldcollier ! wave Good to see you finally made it into the land of the muppets :giggle:
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should not try to impose morals on others, like being in church biggrin

I don't think anyone is, they are giving opinions as requested.
PoloLady that was a fantastic post kiss
Shireen
xxx
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PoloLady that was a fantastic post kiss
Shireen
xxx

agreed
for what its worth... i think that those who are cheating on their partners need a damn good
:sparring:
u know its wrong... that's why you hide it from the person you have a commitment with and u should be ashamed of yourselves for being so selfish.
There are plenty of people who manage to surpress their urges... or have the fortitude to say
" you know what.... my relationship isnt working anymore and im gonna get out of it.... even if its a tough choice to make"
Polo, for you

passionkiss sillyassionkiss: :passionkiss:
Quote by partyman
Well that's fair enough. Assuming that starmanxx is being as honest with his partner as he is with the rest of us, how is he to be given the benefit of the doubt? Does he have to carry a signed letter of consent from his wife whenever he goes to meet someone?

I suppose this is one I ought to post on - but I'm late again so most of it has been said. There are a lot of good posts here and Polo has captured most of the best ones in hers.
On Partyman's question though - I believe there is an answer - doesn't suit all circumstances but.....
If, as a married person you swing alone and you let it be known here and other people know that your partner reads the threads and posts, then that is a sufficient passport, I reckon.
I have done this. I even have it clearly posted it in my profile in another place (this site doesn't allow such subtleties) and my wife, who is not a swinger acknowledges it in her profile.
It was the only way I could see of making it clear that I was being honest without people contacting her to say 'Alright if I shag yer husband?' which some clearly might feel the need to do.
Apart from the moral issues, which have been dealt with above there is also the risk factor. If someone is cheating and gets found out, it can get very awkward for the people they swing with if the emotional temperature rises. That's another reason why people have a right to know.
thanks for all your views I guest that the lesson here is not to tell people your story as they are not going to care!!!! I only want fun and I feel that been honest is important. My wife does not know that I swing, however, we talk about it alot together and I feel that she must know that I do. I just will not rub her nose in it !!!!
Can anyone say that they have not lied before.
Quote by oldcollier
Well I thought I would browse threads for a change as I had free 10minutes smile
I am surprised some of you get time for swinging at all with time spent answerring here
:)
I also know for a fact people off this site who swing as cpls but also alone without partners consent!!! ( Not from personal experience tho, from friends who have of course) But that is not to say they all do.
I also know for a fact there are some couples who advertise for couples only but will also meet guys, they just say that in ads to deter toooooo many crap replies :-) Which is probably a good idea, but most guys would probably ignore the ad and reply anyway!!
Each to their own I say as everyone is entitled to their own opinion and dont have to reply to ads if they dont want to and dont have to meet if you dont want to, but also should not try to impose morals on others, like being in church biggrin

All true and correct.....
BUT (note: that was a big but).........
You failed to mention one more FACT....
Once it is posted on the forum it is going to get other peoples views and opinions added to it - after all that is what a forum is about. It should go without saying some people will not agree or see things from a different view point - we are not clones.
If someone does not what to hear other peoples opinions on something they are doing, then I have one simple suggestion for them....
Don't post it in the Cafe!
Quote by starmanxx
The question that I would like to ask is can a happly married man who like to swing but wife does not. Can he find couples to play with if he is straight with them and tells them that he is married ? I repeat that I am happly married and would never leave wife but we have different sex drive. This is main due to pills taken for depression cause by birth of son now 7. Finding a couple is hard when you are a single male, so I welcolm opinions and advice.

After all the flak has settled down a bit it is interesting to read the first post in this thread. The original question was whether he could find couples to play with. The advice and opinions he asked for was surely about finding couples, not whether he was being moral.
The short answer to this is, as Neil said in the second post on this thread, yes there are lots of couples that will play with married guys, although many of those don't bother posting on internet forums. I have yet to see anyone in a club question a prospective playmate about their marital status. So, advice on how to play with couples in your position: Go to a club.
Quote by starmanxx
I agree with you have man feel that they have to lie. I am happy if my wife wishes to play around and we have discussed this at lenght, she however, does not. I have not ask her if it is ok for me to swing as I do not wnat to hurt her or add to her problems. I love sex and I do not feel that I am doing any thing wrong.

If you don't feel that you are doing anything wrong then that is all you need to worry about. Since I can't offer advice about your position because I don't know you, I will assume that you have thought it all through and wish you good luck.
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If you don't feel that you are doing anything wrong then that is all you need to worry about. Since I can't offer advice about your position because I don't know you, I will assume that you have thought it all through and wish you good luck.

Not often I disagree with you but I do on this point - for this reason at least
Quote by westerross
Apart from the moral issues, which have been dealt with above there is also the risk factor. If someone is cheating and gets found out, it can get very awkward for the people they swing with if the emotional temperature rises. That's another reason why people have a right to know.

I don't think the moral argument comes into it because that is a very personal thing.
Quote by westerross
Apart from the moral issues, which have been dealt with above there is also the risk factor. If someone is cheating and gets found out, it can get very awkward for the people they swing with if the emotional temperature rises. That's another reason why people have a right to know.

That was why I advised him to go to a club. It is extremely unlikely for there to be any comeback on the couple that he plays with should things go pear-shaped at home.