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Married Women and Men who play away don''''t have a category

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Mallock brings another opinion that conflicts with others........ Which is right?
Quote by jameswanna
Mallock brings another opinion that conflicts with others........ Which is right?

Mine of course ;-)
Personal opinion biggrin
Who says?? lol
No face pics as I don't want to be printed off and sent out or put up on other sites, without my knowledge.
End of personal opinion :D
Personal opinion smile
I think there should be a section for "cheaters with no respect for their partners", so I can avoid it like the plague! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx End of personal opinion! :)
just had a thought....
if you are going to have a category called married men/women playing away, then you have to split that into two.....
those doing it with partners permission (and can talk to them to check if necessary?....
and those doing it without permission...
where does the splitting and sub splitting end?????? confused: :?: :?:
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Personal opinion smile
I think there should be a section for "cheaters with no respect for their partners", so I can avoid it like the plague! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx End of personal opinion! :)

With all due respect, thats very judgemental. There may be very good reasons why a married person is playing away without permission.
Example. A person who is married to a severely disabled person where sex is impossible, but the person still wants to stay in the supportive role but doesn't want to disclose their behaviour as it would be hurtful.
Quote by jameswanna
With all due respect, thats very judgemental. There may be very good reasons why a married person is playing away without permission.
Example. A person who is married to a severely disabled person where sex is impossible, but the person still wants to stay in the supportive role but doesn't want to disclose their behaviour as it would be hurtful.

In your opinion it is judgemental ......... in my opinion it is simply my opinion! kiss
"Hurtful" ....... but you'd do it anyway? dunno
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by jameswanna
Personal opinion smile
I think there should be a section for "cheaters with no respect for their partners", so I can avoid it like the plague! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx End of personal opinion! :)

With all due respect, thats very judgemental. There may be very good reasons why a married person is playing away without permission.
Example. A person who is married to a severely disabled person where sex is impossible, but the person still wants to stay in the supportive role but doesn't want to disclose their behaviour as it would be hurtful.
And as someone has already said James, there are sites for people who are attached and looking for extra marital affairs - for whatever reason.
Actually, thinking about it further I think Fabio's right - where would you draw the line? It would get very confusing. I think possibly just an improved search facility whereby you can search for certain stutus (pl? statii? Fluffy where are you biggrin )
The whole debate about cheating and playing away is an emotive one. A marmite issue me thinks.
H.x
True, as there are many other sites like adultfriendfinder that cater for all sorts. My quest is to make this site even better than it is already.
If you don't like something, do you just give up and go away; no, you try and change it by canvassing opinion
Your quest is to improve the site to better suit your requirements. What if you're the only one that has those requirements? Would you not be better suited changing to a site that already had them?
H.x
But the poll shows others think its a good idea
Quote by jameswanna
But the poll shows others think its a good idea

64% say NO to a new catagory........ when I went to school that was a majority vote against! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by jameswanna
I take all your points but while we are on the point of honesty, while do the majority of profiles not have face pics or have no pics at all?
Mine included re the face pics, although they are available to anyone who asks...

Being discreet and honesty are two different things, I think your mixing them up.
Quote by jameswanna
With all due respect, thats very judgemental. There may be very good reasons why a married person is playing away without permission.
Example. A person who is married to a severely disabled person where sex is impossible, but the person still wants to stay in the supportive role but doesn't want to disclose their behaviour as it would be hurtful.

This is about honesty, why should it matter if someone’s disabled or not? And if like you say it would be hurtful then why risk hurting someone in the first place? This is a swinging site, talking and honesty work, or couples wouldn’t be here? It seems some are on here just for quick sex and aren’t even interested in the people and/or what the swinging lifestyle actually brings.
Is this what you think swinging is actually about? Sounds more like you should be on a hook up site rather than a swinging site. But that’s only my opinion so don’t take it too seriously.
Quote by jameswanna
True, as there are many other sites like adultfriendfinder that cater for all sorts. My quest is to make this site even better than it is already.
If you don't like something, do you just give up and go away; no, you try and change it by canvassing opinion

if it ain't broke...don't fix it :thumbup:
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I take all your points but while we are on the point of honesty, while do the majority of profiles not have face pics or have no pics at all?
Mine included re the face pics, although they are available to anyone who asks...

Simple James... I'm a single gal with absolutely nothing to hide partner-wise. However, I do have a job that could potentially conflict with my choice of being on this site. Therefore, no face pics.Is a matter of personal choice and safety for me - nothing more sinister than that!!
Nola x
Hello again
We are a male/bifemale couple who have no pics at all on our profile.
We just chose not to do so. Personal choice.
We are still here lol, it works for us........... biggrin
Currently 33% think its a good idea
Admitedly those people may have different reasons for wanting it that may be very different
Cheating Heaven isn't such a good name as Swinging Heaven!
As the 'about us' page says "SwingingHeaven is about you and about being a part of a friendly swingingcommunity."
And this page may help define the nature of the site:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/terminology/swinging.html
We don't want to become like AF - the fun is in the differences not in the similarity! Who'd want Asda to become more like Sainsbury's? No point in buying a Porsche if it looks the same as a Ferrari now is there??
cool
There shouldn't be a category, no. Simple reason it's up to the individual to be honest enough to say on their profile (ie., married, with someone,) their status and take it from there.
My take on it is this, if someone is here and are married and looking for an affair that's their own personal perogative. I don't personally agree in affairs and deceit. I would hate to be the partner at home no knowing any of what is going on, but as I say that's my thoughts on affairs.
Open marriages are completely different, both sides know what is happening.
Swinging is about fun and honesty, not deceit and tears.
You did ask wink
this is a swinging site aint it my opinion swinging is about everyone being involved and having fun in a mutual way - the person being cheated on (if found out) would be none to happy
i have played with married men before they have their reasons for playing away and yes sometimes they can be a safe option if you choose right but some of the escuses you hear are just that - bad thought up excuses aint u ever head "s/he dont understand me" etc
and some will always hide there marital status regardless of wether it is frowned upon or not
Quote by jameswanna
True, as there are many other sites like adultfriendfinder that cater for all sorts. My quest is to make this site even better than it is already.
If you don't like something, do you just give up and go away; no, you try and change it by canvassing opinion

Better for you, you mean? To make it easier for you to find others who are cheating? Gosh, what a waste of your time having to trawl through the ads. for someone suitable. Oh no, it's not just you - lots of other people do that all the time. Just as they have for the years that SH was up and running (successfully) before you arrived.
Go back to looking and trawling through. The people you seek are there; you have to find them.
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Currently 33% think its a good idea
Admitedly those people may have different reasons for wanting it that may be very different

So 67% currently think it's not a good idea - you have your opinions now.
Now 78% think is it not a good idea.
i think it would be a good idea
when i was an active swinger i prefered mainly to meet married men as there was no hassle with emotional stuff and clinginess
and altho i met a mixture of married and single men, they used to say they prefered meeting married women for the same reason i did
i know many people will think im awful for cheating but they werent living my life
I would like to think that I am a respected member of this community.
I have avoided this thread up to now, because I would like to keep my feeling of being respected here.
However, I am one of those people who are "playing away".
I do not choose to go into the painful reasons why this is so. Anyone I have met up with, and quite a few who I haven't met but who are friends, know my situation.
Anyone who thinks any different of me now, fair enough, that's no problem to me.
And I totally respect anyone who says that they would never do this, no matter what the situation.
As far as the poll goes, I have no feelings either way. I meet so few people that it doesn't have a bearing on me.
But I am writing this to say I agree with the OP in that there are many reasons why someone would "play away" .
Cherry.
Quote by Cherrytree
I would like to think that I am a respected member of this community.
I have avoided this thread up to now, because I would like to keep my feeling of being respected here.
However, I am one of those people who are "playing away".
I do not choose to go into the painful reasons why this is so. Anyone I have met up with, and quite a few who I haven't met but who are friends, know my situation.
Anyone who thinks any different of me now, fair enough, that's no problem to me.
And I totally respect anyone who says that they would never do this, no matter what the situation.
As far as the poll goes, I have no feelings either way. I meet so few people that it doesn't have a bearing on me.
But I am writing this to say I agree with the OP in that there are many reasons why someone would "play away" .
Cherry.
kiss :kiss:
Tan x
Cherry Tree and danne-gary bring very good arguments to the table
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excuse me for being a bit thick....... but if you are a married man or woman.... doesn't "married" already cover it?????? confused
if you are then playing away (which i am not going to get into the merits of) then don't you have to chance to say so if you ads and in your profiles....
everyone admires honesty.... you do have chances to be honest without having to create a whole new category for it.....
for example..... i am black ..... could I have a category just for me???

yeah... lol
couples looking for Fabio
singles looking for Fabio
Quote by Cherrytree
I would like to think that I am a respected member of this community.
I have avoided this thread up to now, because I would like to keep my feeling of being respected here.
However, I am one of those people who are "playing away".
I do not choose to go into the painful reasons why this is so. Anyone I have met up with, and quite a few who I haven't met but who are friends, know my situation.
Anyone who thinks any different of me now, fair enough, that's no problem to me.
And I totally respect anyone who says that they would never do this, no matter what the situation.
As far as the poll goes, I have no feelings either way. I meet so few people that it doesn't have a bearing on me.
But I am writing this to say I agree with the OP in that there are many reasons why someone would "play away" .
Cherry.

Firstly, Cherrytree - you are respected and still, I am sure, will be.
Okay, now my response to the OP was about the need for a 'playing away' category. I don't think we need one. I have met people who are married from this site. I would not presume to judge, nor even to ask for reasons why if they don't want to tell me.
I just think if we had a category like this then it would open people up to being stigmatised and possibly abused. It smacks to me a bit of Nathaniel Hawthorne's "The Scarlet Letter" and I don't see why or how it could be healthy.
Cherrytree I admire your honesty.
Nola xx
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excuse me for being a bit thick....... but if you are a married man or woman.... doesn't "married" already cover it?????? confused
if you are then playing away (which i am not going to get into the merits of) then don't you have to chance to say so if you ads and in your profiles....
everyone admires honesty.... you do have chances to be honest without having to create a whole new category for it.....
for example..... i am black ..... could I have a category just for me???

yeah... lol
couples looking for Fabio
singles looking for Fabio
trust me... if you wanted to call the guinness book of records and tell them you are making the shortest lists in the world... i think you might have a shot with those categories!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
hijack over..... back to topic
first off......Cherrytree kiss
Secondly.....I am not going to get into the merits of people playing away as that deflects from the topic.....and a good one it has been
I am going not going to get into the discussion as the whether that is really swinging...again because it deflects from the topic
but why try to change a site into something it is not.... I haven't been on AFF for years.. for me it is much more like a cattle market than SH, and as others have said there are site out there which are much better designed for what you are proposing...
some people look at SH as a swinging site and community, whereas Some people look at SH as a sex site.....
for me there is a huge difference between those two definations... and for me personally if you add what you want to add.. it pushes SH further away from the swinging and closer to the sex site......
just me speaking personally.... flame as you please...
sean xxxxxxxx
Sean
Good contribution, now you're showing your colours and you have a point but what is swiinging really.
Some would say that no singles should be allowed on here.
I agree AFF is aweful. A true flesh pot and cattle market.
wink