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I'm Gobsmacked!!!
After watching a programe earlier I decided to go along to the website and have a gander, as ya do.. I'm not gonna name what it was and you will see why when i've finished.
Scrolling throught it I found the "message board" section.. I was extremely shocked to see there have been messages and ADDY's posted from 13 yr olds.. YES... 13 yr olds!!!! :shock:
Then in another section was this....
"If you are under 16 please make sure you have permission from a parent or guardian before registering to post messages".
Now i know that parents don't always know what there kids are up to and joining but i'd love to know how this company have let this happen. Email addys.. of 13 yr olds... on a open message board where you don't even have to be a member to go and see them???
Is it any wonder there are so many phedofiles and wierdo's in the internet world. I have made a complaint to the company and will just wait and see what comes from it.
Lil
this kind of thing shouldnt just be up to parents to see what their child posts on it should be also up to the company to police properly and responsibly and use the software available to block emal addies from apearing in posts or the post should be veted before being shown on such a public forum
Its a scary world on the net at times for anyone but especially for young people...
I used to do workshops for young people about safey on the internet including chatrooms. First thing they were ever told was never post or give away personal information.
When one particular organisation I worked with posted photos with names underneath the pics I used to get so cross with them, then the cheeky blighters put my photo online! I was not impressed!
I think messenger is even worse! The photos some of these y. people or their contacts have! Its about time something was done about it all.
So yeah complain away as parents cant always police what their children do online as its so accessable these days in a variety of places, I would if I saw anything like that.
I wish i could post where and let people see for themselves and make complaints also... but i 200% can't do it as i wouldn't like these childrens information falling into the wrong hands.
If i hear back and i hope to god i do as i will be keeping a close eye on it, i will let you know what reply i get.
Lil confused
Quote by Lilmiss
I wish i could post where and let people see for themselves and make complaints also... but i 200% can't do it as i wouldn't like these childrens information falling into the wrong hands.
If i hear back and i hope to god i do as i will be keeping a close eye on it, i will let you know what reply i get.
Lil confused

Do you have kids at school? Would it be worth mentioning it to the head and get them to do a few sessions on safety - using this programme as a trigger?
Quote by foxylady2209
I wish i could post where and let people see for themselves and make complaints also... but i 200% can't do it as i wouldn't like these childrens information falling into the wrong hands.
If i hear back and i hope to god i do as i will be keeping a close eye on it, i will let you know what reply i get.
Lil confused

Do you have kids at school? Would it be worth mentioning it to the head and get them to do a few sessions on safety - using this programme as a trigger?
Yes and a great idea. I feel quite saddened by it. Its bad enough hearing on the tv about children being abused everyday without looking and finding, in a way... Tv promoting it(hope that came out right) rolleyes
This is awful though I know it goes on as my daughter has shown me her mates addys and phone numbers in places on the net. Even she says they are nuts putting them on I hope she doesn't just say that for my benefit.
I was quite shocked when I found out a few months ago that while staying at a mates house they put videos on you tube - they are cutesy videos but still i wasn't happy
Quote by Lilmiss
I wish i could post where and let people see for themselves and make complaints also... but i 200% can't do it as i wouldn't like these childrens information falling into the wrong hands.
If i hear back and i hope to god i do as i will be keeping a close eye on it, i will let you know what reply i get.
Lil confused
Great stuff... in the meantime maybe someone might know where else you can take this issue about the site itself??
Does it say anything anywhere on the home page about reporting the web site? What about the domain?
Afraid I dont have information anymore as it was all on my work computer!
Quote by anais
I wish i could post where and let people see for themselves and make complaints also... but i 200% can't do it as i wouldn't like these childrens information falling into the wrong hands.
If i hear back and i hope to god i do as i will be keeping a close eye on it, i will let you know what reply i get.
Lil confused
Great stuff... in the meantime maybe someone might know where else you can take this issue about the site itself??
Does it say anything anywhere on the home page about reporting the web site? What about the domain?
Afraid I dont have information anymore as it was all on my work computer!
That would be brill too, if anybody knows. All i could find was contact us.
You could expect this kind of thing from places like face book.. msn.. or even youtube.. but not from 1 of these companys.
Sadly some parents don't know how to look or where to look to see what their kids have been up to onthe net.
Well... i've just checked again... and the posts with the email addy's have gone biggrin
Now quite possibly it wasn't updated yesterday as it was sunday, but still.... it shouldn't of happened.
I've not heard anything from my email tho rolleyes
shoud it have left the email on the post until it was checked ........... i dont think it should be alowed to be posted until it has been checked or they use better software to filter out addys.
Might be worth reporting it to ;-)
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Might be worth reporting it to CEOP ;-)

Thanks do you think it will still be worth reporting it even tho they have now taken them out of public view?
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Sadly some parents don't know how to look or where to look to see what their kids have been up to onthe net.

Then that is a sad state of affairs. Both our kids cannot get onto the computer without one of us signing them in. We also then can check, and we do, what web sites that have been on.
They can access their AOL accounts but there is security on there, so they cannot get onto anything of an " adult " nature. Some of their friends have computers with internet access in their bedrooms, and the parents never check where they been on. Sorry but it is easy for a parent to put security restictions on their computers, if they all did, we would not be talking about this thread.
Kids need to be protected on the internet and the only way that can be done is for the adults of the house to pay more attention, but some of them simply just cannot be bothered.....shame on them.
but the site lil is talking about is a general all purpose site thet i wouldnt have batted an eyelid if my 10 year old had been on ..... what is most upsetting and un nerving is that the post concerned was not vetted befor for content not for the content of the site but for the content of the post concerned. ie. the user of the site was 13 and posted her email addy for the world and every peadofile (sp) to see
Quote by Sara_2006
but the site lil is talking about is a general all purpose site thet i wouldnt have batted an eyelid if my 10 year old had been on ..... what is most upsetting and un nerving is that the post concerned was not vetted befor for content not for the content of the site but for the content of the post concerned. ie. the user of the site was 13 and posted her email addy for the world and every peadofile (sp) to see

I know sara quite well and i run this post past her before even posting it. She had a good look herself and agreed with me.
Like i said earlier this morning, the post's in discussion have been removed and there has been this added to it...
"GUYS. DON'T PUT YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THESE PAGES AS YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS READING AND IT MEANS ANYBODY CAN CONTACT YOU. THE MODERATOR"
This site was in no way an adult site.. If, now that the post have been removed and i am allowed to name it, not the exact part on it...but more who it is run by... i will do so... and i think you may just be shocked yourself... but only if the mods allow it.
Lil
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but the site lil is talking about is a general all purpose site thet i wouldnt have batted an eyelid if my 10 year old had been on ..... what is most upsetting and un nerving is that the post concerned was not vetted befor for content not for the content of the site but for the content of the post concerned. ie. the user of the site was 13 and posted her email addy for the world and every peadofile (sp) to see

I know sara quite well and i run this post past her before even posting it. She had a good look herself and agreed with me.
Like i said earlier this morning, the post's in discussion have been removed and there has been this added to it...
"GUYS. DON'T PUT YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THESE PAGES AS YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS READING AND IT MEANS ANYBODY CAN CONTACT YOU. THE MODERATOR"
This site was in no way an adult site.. If, now that the post have been removed and i am allowed to name it, not the exact part on it...but more who it is run by... i will do so... and i think you may just be shocked yourself... but only if the mods allow it.
Lil

Ask Lil as am interested myself. x
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Ask Lil as am interested myself. x

As am I....
Would like to know if it to be added to my childrens restricted list...
I have issued a support ticket asking if i am allowed to tell you all.
smile
i can bet any money you wouldnt have thought to restict the site concerned and if your parental controles were set that low they wouldnt be able to view much if any internet content at all ..... perhaps the better idea would be to stop posting on any site at all .... is there software for that????? and only use the web for browsing for homework etc rather than being able to post on forums
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i can bet any money you wouldnt have thought to restict the site concerned and if your parental controles were set that low they wouldnt be able to view much if any internet content at all ..... perhaps the better idea would be to stop posting on any site at all .... is there software for that????? and only use the web for browsing for homework etc rather than being able to post on forums

Both the kids cannot get onto sites like facebook or the like or even MSN without one of us signing them in. If that is what it takes to watch what they do on the internet, then that is fine by us.
As the saying goes " better to be safe than sorry ".
but once they are signed in do you watch what they write and who they write to or just look over their sholder occasionaly ... because as a mother myself i somtimes let him get on with the site he is on and only watch occasionaly as i have other stuff to be getting on with ... trusting as i am as to what and who he is chatting to .. i also save the msn type chats and have a look through as to the content of what he is typing and also ask him if he is adding somone who they are and where he knows them from ... we all do our best to watch them but we cannt have the time to monitor them 24/7 and we have to trust their judgements and hope that the lessons and values on their safty are listened to .... but we should also be able to truse some general sites not to show adult content and have the kind of software that can block mail addys and long numbers that could be phone numbers etc
is this too much to ask
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but once they are signed in do you watch what they write and who they write to or just look over their sholder occasionaly ... because as a mother myself i somtimes let him get on with the site he is on and only watch occasionaly as i have other stuff to be getting on with ... trusting as i am as to what and who he is chatting to .. i also save the msn type chats and have a look through as to the content of what he is typing and also ask him if he is adding somone who they are and where he knows them from ... we all do our best to watch them but we cannt have the time to monitor them 24/7 and we have to trust their judgements and hope that the lessons and values on their safty are listened to .... but we should also be able to truse some general sites not to show adult content and have the kind of software that can block mail addys and long numbers that could be phone numbers etc
is this too much to ask

Nope its not to much to ask.. and this large company should know better.
Quote by Sara_2006
but once they are signed in do you watch what they write and who they write to or just look over their sholder occasionaly ... because as a mother myself i somtimes let him get on with the site he is on and only watch occasionaly as i have other stuff to be getting on with ... trusting as i am as to what and who he is chatting to .. i also save the msn type chats and have a look through as to the content of what he is typing and also ask him if he is adding somone who they are and where he knows them from ... we all do our best to watch them but we cannt have the time to monitor them 24/7 and we have to trust their judgements and hope that the lessons and values on their safty are listened to .... but we should also be able to truse some general sites not to show adult content and have the kind of software that can block mail addys and long numbers that could be phone numbers etc
is this too much to ask

No it is not too much to ask Sarah.
Yes we also hope that they can be trusted to a degree but kids will be kids. We cannot do anything more than we do to protect them from certain content on the net. We do not obviously check everything but they both know that we could check where and what they had seen, and they know that.
You sound like a parent that cares what your kids look at on the net but as you have said, cant monitor them 24/7. You can only do your best and so far our security measures have worked, or as far as we know they have. lol
I didn't ever hear anything back from my support ticket as to whether im allowed to name it or not... But if anybody is interested in knowing... Please feel free to pm me
smile
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I didn't ever hear anything back from my support ticket as to whether im allowed to name it or not... But if anybody is interested in knowing... Please feel free to pm me
smile

Fuck it, post it here. If it's not allowed then a mod will delete it anyway.
Would have though a support ticket would have received a reply, especially on a subject such as this rolleyes
Are ST's just for technical/site probs then?
Sorry....
I received 1 saying... To hang fire while they spoke to the mods about it... but haven't received nothing since.
So as i said if anybody would like to know, plz pm me.
well i PM'd lil for the site, and I must say that I am very shocked and surprised that such a big comapny and a well recognise programme should slip up in this way.
I wouldnt have turned a hair if I had seen one of my 4 on it.
I am, however, heartened to see that they appear to have closed the message boards and deleted the commnts on it.
I know that the internet is a huge place, but if we all do our little bit to police it, whe we see things like this, then, if e save just one child from a terrible physical, mental or emotonal experience at th hands of the worlds less than savoury characters, than its all worth it.