As one or two of you that know me are aware, I'm a great fan of the fuller figured lady. Anyway, seems I'm not alone, as a program on ITV tonight at 11pm shows... A peek into the world of men attracted to extra-large ladies, where conventional stick-thin beauties barely warrant a second glance, and being overweight isn't just acceptable - it's actually desirable. Among the bounteous beauties profiled are 23-stone Sue Allen, who has met a succession of suitors over the Internet, and 36-year-old Tracey Carr, who is seen modelling lingerie - even though she weighs 29 stone Definitely worth a watch I'd say!
Quote by MQ It is interesting but why do larger ladies have to be shoved in a 'specialist tastes' category?
Because there aren't many men able to think for themselves and appreciate real women, the vast majority follow the herd and fancy what The Sun/their mates/the media generally tell them to fancy.
Quote by Bari It is interesting but why do larger ladies have to be shoved in a 'specialist tastes' category?
Because there aren't many men able to think for themselves and appreciate real women, the vast majority follow the herd and fancy what The Sun/their mates/the media generally tell them to fancy. Aren't you attempting to create a similar herd mentality by suggesting that only those who conform to your definition qualify as "real women"? You are doing exactly what you criticise others for doing.
You could read it that way if you wished. But no, each to their own. However, you won't often hear many guys slating a woman for being thin, sadly not the case in reverse (owing to the herd mentality I mentioned).
Quote by Bari You could read it that way if you wished. But no, each to their own. However, you won't often hear many guys slating a woman for being thin, sadly not the case in reverse (owing to the herd mentality I mentioned).
What about when Geri Halliwell went really thin -loads of people said she looked really bad. Me and my mates often comment about women being too thin - nowt worse than a lass with "no meat on the bones" so to speak. Just comes down to personal taste at the end of the day The moral being if you like how you look f*ck everyone else - if you don't like your appearance and it gets you down do something about it!!
Quote by Bari You could read it that way if you wished. But no, each to their own. However, you won't often hear many guys slating a woman for being thin, sadly not the case in reverse (owing to the herd mentality I mentioned).
You say "each to their own". A commendable philosophy, but it doesn't seem very sincere coming immediately after you implying that anyone who doesn't share your taste is unable to think for himself.
Again, read it that way if you will. The point I was actually trying to make is that an awful lot of people seem to "follow the herd", liking what they're told to like, and putting down what they are told not to like. I prefer large women to slim women, and I defend any man to prefer slim women to large, as I say, each to their own. But (as happened to an attractive but large friend of mine) when you hear about guys walking up to bigger women in a pub and without any reason saying "Christ, you're a fat bitch aren't you" you'll perhaps understand what I mean by the herd mentality. Put it this way, not ever heard "Christ you're a slim bitch" being banded about as an insult! This is what I mean by the whole media/mainstream philosophy that big is ugly and slim isn't. But anyway, you don't want to hear all this, you just want to get on my case, and the program is on shortly so I'll leave you to it. G'night! :thumbup:
its a tough subject alright . I like a proper rounded woman by preference , and im no stick man meself . I have also met many slim women who were very sexy . Its a subject often walked around gently wearing egg shell soled shoes because so many are offended by frank discussion of body image . I think generalisation is something thats rife in shallow documentaries like the one on tonight , which is probably lets face it , just another tabloid type 'skim the surface' poke at some kind of sexuality. For me a woman classed as 'over weight' whatever that means , can be incredibly sexy if she is confident in her sexuality , but the same applies to almost any shape and size ( side show oddities excepted ) . That said , I believe there is a level of obesity which goes past being someone who is unconcerned with their body image and reaches a point where it is someone who is either frankly past caring about themselves or worse someone who has a psychological disorder that either means they seek to gain weight or cannot stop eating . I know that may sound harsh , but im not intending to judge those folks , im simply seperating them from those of us that have a genetic predisposition to being a little chubby . I for one find there is a cut off point where someone becomes too fat ( usually that point being when movement is restricted and personal hygeine becomes difficult) to be of interest to me sexually . Of course many of the women shown on the trailer for the show tonight are very fat indeed and some of them would be included in that definition . The men that will be on the show will be portrayed as liberal and unjudgemental , but what they actually are are fetishists . If it wasnt fat girls it would have been shoes , or uniforms or whatever triggered their latent desire . To simply find very fat women sexualy exciting , to the exclusion of all others if of course a fetish , and I would say that I have rarely if ever known a man personally that would be attracted to women quite that big and also to other shapes and sizes . The net itself is a weird place when it comes to big women , those of us who have been on here a long long time know that a profile containing the phrase " particularly interested in BBW" will very often mean when translated " Ill shag anyone really , but i reckon of got a better chance if i flatter the fat girls". Of course there men like myself who prefer curvy women to stick thin , but you'll rarely get a swingers ad asking for a special interest in " medium build" women . Each to their own i guess , but much like a couple of people have commented already its not really about that for most balanced people , I for one would be much more flattered by someone saying " hes a good shag " than " hes a great fabulous shag for a fat bloke". Just in closing , you know what not ALL BW's are B . There actually is such things as a BUW !! Its true or Jo Brand wouldnt exist ! G xx
Quote by Silk and Big G For me a woman classed as 'over weight' whatever that means , can be incredibly sexy if she is confident in her sexuality , but the same applies to almost any shape and size ( side show oddities excepted ) . That said , I believe there is a level of obesity which goes past being someone who is unconcerned with their body image and reaches a point where it is someone who is either frankly past caring about themselves or worse someone who has a psychological disorder that either means they seek to gain weight or cannot stop eating . I know that may sound harsh , but im not intending to judge those folks , im simply seperating them from those of us that have a genetic predisposition to being a little chubby . I for one find there is a cut off point where someone becomes too fat ( usually that point being when movement is restricted and personal hygeine becomes difficult) to be of interest to me sexually . Of course many of the women shown on the trailer for the show tonight are very fat indeed and some of them would be included in that definition . The men that will be on the show will be portrayed as liberal and unjudgemental , but what they actually are are fetishists . If it wasnt fat girls it would have been shoes , or uniforms or whatever triggered their latent desire .
Got to agree with you there! I adore larger curvier women, indeed I've never actually dated a woman lighter than myself, but like you there has to be a cut off, you can't just say "bigger is better". That was an hour long program and I'm not sure I found any of the ladies on there (nice as they may well be) sexually attractive, and the guys on there did come across as being fat obsessed for the lust of the fat only, not the women which was a little sad. I think a good analogy would be, some guys are into older women. You'll get guys in their twenties who wouldn't go out with women who are in their twenties just becaue their preference is toward older women so they would perhaps prefer a woman in her thirties or even maybe forties. Fair enough but you wouldn't expect that guy to extend that to saying "the older the better" and get turned on by a woman in her nineties, and you would probably find it disturbing if he did. This is kind of how I felt about the women on the program tonight. I'm sorry but even given my "larger woman" preferences I couldn't see these women as being attractive, and I found myself wondering about the motives of the guys who claimed to be attracted to them and wondering if it were something deeper, a lack of self worth maybe, a fear of being left and therefore rationalising that by going out with a huge woman they would run less risk of that. I'm gettting into the realms of cod phycology here, but I honestly couldn't see how these women could be attractive even to a guy (like me) who genuinely prefers larger women unless, as Big G says, its some kind of fetish thing... :confused:
Quote by Bari I prefer large women to slim women, and I defend any man to prefer slim women to large, as I say, each to their own.
You didn't defend them, you attacked their supposed herd mentality and lack of ability to think for themselves. What's the difference between them and the "Big is beautiful" herd? By making a distinction between skinny women and "real" women, you are judging people purely on the basis of their size, which is precisely what you're criticising, so why is it OK for you and not others? I have no problem with you following your chosen herd, what I do have a problem with is you slagging people off for following a different one. I am not criticising your preference, merely questioning your apparent double standard. (Edited due to quoting the wrong post and inadvertently attributing Bari's comments to MOMF, sorry.)
When it gets to the point of like the American Woman who was engaged to the English Guy clearly having difficulty breathing while just walking down a corridor THEN its a not just that it potentially shortens their their life,its the quality of their life too. Channel 4 had a thing on a while ago about overweight Texans and one woman in that was a completely isolated human mountain,virtually bedridden,needing breathing apparatus and in constant terrible to see a person reduced to that. Yet a while back a fit,active slim guy I knew with everything going for him suddenly dropped dead with heart failure aged just ain't no telling. Theres too far either way - the emaiciated anorexic or the wheezing 40 stoner. Once I'd have purely confromed to seeking the 8/10/12 sized media ideal but some wonderful experiences have taught me otherwise - its the spirit and sexiness of the woman within - and wasn't Marilyn Monroe a size 16 at one point?
Quote by Ice Pie I prefer large women to slim women, and I defend any man to prefer slim women to large, as I say, each to their own.
You didn't defend them, you attacked their supposed herd mentality and lack of ability to think for themselves. What's the difference between them and the "Big is beautiful" herd? By making a distinction between skinny women and "real" women, you are judging people purely on the basis of their size, which is precisely what you're criticising, so why is it OK for you and not others? I have no problem with you following your chosen herd, what I do have a problem with is you slagging people off for following a different one. I am not criticising your preference, merely questioning your apparent double standard. (Edited due to quoting the wrong post and inadvertently attributing Bari's comments to MOMF, sorry.) You read it however you want to matey...
I am a BW and hate the thought that i may be thought of as an easy shag. Do guys actually think that BW's are an easy shag???Serious question guys. Gill x
Quote by dundeecpl I am a BW and hate the thought that i may be thought of as an easy shag. Do guys actually think that BW's are an easy shag???Serious question guys. Gill x
Absolutely not Gill! The same as any other woman to me - a guy has to be worthy of it to her.
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