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Hello again everyone
@ steve-shireen
Hello steve
Lets get one thing straight... I am not a Transvestite.
Judy is a Transvestite....And is happy being what she is.....one of the rare few that accept and enjoy themselves as they are. And boy do they enjoy themselves !!!
Now a Transsexual is a completely different creature....we may well have our roots in the same place, as most Transsexuals spend a period, pre transition, doing the 'part time' thing.
But we are never happy until we can face the world in our true colours, for better or worse.
It is not about, what is between the legs that counts.....that is just plumbing.
I dont expect people to understand what goes on in the head of a Transsexual....As the saying goes..."You have to be there"
Now that you have been suitably admonished....Does that offer of a drink still stand?

Hi again..........
I didnt mean it to sound as though I was refering to you as a transvestite..
I simply used Judy(boy she'll enjoy being used wink ) as an example.
You are correct in saying that unless you have been there then you have no real idea of how you feel and I for one would never try to say that I know how you are feeling because I dont.
With regards to the drink................Of course the offer still stands.....get your arse to a munch that we are going to and jobs done..... biggrin
Here's hoping you stick around and let those that have no tollerance or whose minds are closed to all they have no knowledge of go boil their heads..
Steve..
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Ice Pie
I have left you to last because your comments go right to the root of the problem Transsexuals suffer.
I have to agree that being honest from the very start should be the way to do it.
No Transsexual wants to be be dishonest....why live a lie?...We all spent years doing exactly that,
trying to be something that we are not just because Nature dealt us a bad hand.
But.....
We now come to the 'Labels'
No Transsexual wants to wear the label....because once we have admitted we are different...we are treated differently.

Point taken, and for those who do get hung up about it, I don't suppose it makes much difference when you tell them. So I'm thinking, if you're going to tell them anyway, why delay? Either they will accept you or they won't, and if they won't, wouldn't it be better to establish that at the outset and move on? If it's just chat and you don't intend to meet them, you could stealth it out online, just as others do IRL? I realise not everyone can be a Miriam, (OK, she's not really an appropriate example, but you know what I mean) but in a chat room, who would know?
... to openly declare we are a Transsexual results in being treated differently.......It is just the way it is....People cannot help it...they do not mean anything bad by it, but it is obvious to us that it happens.
Are we being too defensive in thinking this way?.....I dont know if it is defensive...but it does make us a little dissapointed that we cannot be just one of the girls and treated exactly the same.

I don't know if being treated "exactly the same" as anyone else is a realistic expectation for anyone, regardless of our gender. I think what we're all entitled to though, and the best that we can hope for, is to be recognised, accepted, and respected for who we are. That may not be particularly common in the world in general, but it's par for the course in this community. smile
So you see...by my admission to everyone on here that I am Transsexual I have now 'Labelled' myself and will always wear that label......."Hi there gurl" (the Transsexual) You dont have to say it...It's there in your thoughts...and often in your eyes....

Perhaps it would be helpful to see it not as an "admission" but a declaration of yourself. That certainly won't do you any harm in here, as I'm sure you know by now.
I have great admiration for those Transsexuals that do stand up and be counted...Those that work tirelessly and without reward to make changes in this world so that we can move a bit closer to full acceptance. I know they wish, as do we all, that they didnt have to.

Most people aren't comfortable with the unfamiliar. Time is the only thing that will get the world sufficiently used to a new reality to automatically accept it.
Well....I probably wont be using the chat room anymore....Please... To any room Ops..... The chat room is fine...I wish the one I used to be an Op in, had ran as smoothly as yours sometimes. I just dont think it is the place for me.
The forum.....Well I did say that you people were addictive...so lets just say I will probably be watching.

Oh great, another bloody lurker. :P
You can't do it - you can't not post, we're addictive, you've admitted it, and everyone de-lurks eventually.
Resistance is futile. :borg:
Quote by londonsnglmale
So if someone isnt happy with you for that reason then F**k them.

...and if they are happy with you, F**k them too!!
Sorry to be so flippant Gurl but londonsnglmale's post amused me.
Quote by gurl
Hello again everyone
I would like to say thank you to all those that replied to this posting or via the private message system.
I have read each and every response several times and am going to try and reply to all of you here in some small way.
Please do not be offended by any of my answers and do not think I have not read the whole of your posting, for to answer all the comments in full would make this reply terribly long....and already I believe it is going to be.
And If you find some of my comments....just a bit 'unusual'...well thats the way I really talk....This is to be a toally honest and hopefully unedited posting.

No problem at all.
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@ HungryP
Ok......Thank you for you support but your comments did leave me a little confused...or maybe not.
Maybe, the confusion is caused by the difference between Cross Dressers and Transsexuals.
You are straight but would not be interested in 'taking things further' with someone in my situation........You mean a girl???
Its okay, I dont mean to be ungrateful for your comments. Obviously you may not haveany idea what I or other Transsexuals may look like. Believe me when I say , that some Transsexuals are so good looking and convincing that you would never know they were not born female.

What I actually said was...
my initial reaction is that I would not be interested in "taking things further" with someone in you situation, but thinking a bit more...... if I met you that might be different.

.... so if I met you then things might be different. But as others have said, the important thing is friendship. I may never be interested in sex with a transexual, but I'm very happy to be friends with one, & consider Judy to be a mate. & I'd love to meet her.
Something of which YOU can be justifiably proud, is that this thread has received some VERY thoughtful replies................... & you are responsible for that.
biggrin :D
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@roger743
I have to make a confession here.
Roger and I have been out on a date together and thats how he knows what I look like.
Thing is..... He said, " I've had worse"

Only after you said "I've had better". ;)
Gurl from Maureen and Tom
We can't say any more than other people have already said. Ginny, on the link below, has devoted a warm sensitive website to her experiences up to and beyond her gender reassignment.
I'm sure Ginny would like any of us interested to visit the website.