My thoughts on social gatherings.......

10 Apr 2005

Quote by davej
Maybe we do need a "Court" for those who act persistently. For example a list of people who have complaints about them in the mods area, so that a mod can check to see if they've been mentioned before and make an informed decision.
on is jaded.

I am ready......I am willing......I have the kit

Is this what the "j" is for. You're dave "The Judge" aren't you. Hight court judge and gangland boss extrodinare .
:P :P :P :P :P lol

:lol: :lol:

10 Apr 2005

Quote by easy

I am ready......I am willing......I have the kit

Is this what the "j" is for. You're dave "The Judge" aren't you. Hight court judge and gangland boss extrodinare .
:P :P :P :P :P lol

:lol: :lol:
I've always fancied being a judge Easy........I've been practising..........."cut his dick off"......"cut his dick off".......it's a bit harsh for tail gateing, but I still think a few dicks removed would send out the message quicker than a fixed penalty ticket.
eermm the other reason is that I just like to wear a wig..........nothing to do with having a head that I can only shine these days of course redface

I appreciate that if I ever get to sit in judgement over a case of innapropriate behaviour at a munch, then the punishment will have to be toned down to something like...eermm.... listen to Angel and Busty sing kareaoke for at least three songs, but that should still be deterrent enough in the end.

10 Apr 2005

Quote by Dawn_Mids
Silk and Big G have you been to a munch or is your name down to go to one of the current munches?
Dawn

Neither Dawn :cry:
I didn't think so
:gagged:
Silky was characteristically nicer than me when replying to that one LOL ( thats why everyone likes her better than me) .
Suffice it to say that Ive tried to see what that comment has to do with what I stated in my post and found no real connection . I haven't been to a SH munch no , but Ive been to hundreds of parties , social , sexual , public and private and otherwise . My comments were based on that and the basic premise of grown up human relations .
I wont go on any more as id just repeat myself , but if you had intended comments on the matter strictly from those that attended perhaps you should have PM'ed or e-mailed them so as to save us poor non-munchers the trouble of offending you with our irrelevant comments. Public complaints will of course attract public comment . No offense meant .
Incidentally Tune mate , I wasnt attacking you as I said , and no people shouldnt have to put up with such behaviour , all I really meant was that such behaviour is unacceptable which is universally known so surely we would all deal with people that behave that way , in the same way as we always would ?
G

10 Apr 2005

Quote by davej
I've always fancied being a judge Easy........I've been practising..........."cut his dick off"......"cut his dick off".......it's a bit harsh for tail gateing, but I still think a few dicks removed would send out the message quicker than a fixed penalty ticket.
eermm the other reason is that I just like to wear a wig..........nothing to do with having a head that I can only shine these days of course
I appreciate that if I ever get to sit in judgement over a case of innapropriate behaviour at a munch, then the punishment will have to be toned down to something like...eermm.... listen to Angel and Busty sing kareaoke for at least three songs, but that should still be deterrent enough in the end.

That's just plain barbaric, you monster! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
TBH I think most of 'em would rather have their dick cut off, but hey, you still get the occasional weirdo who'll want to listen. loon

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
The point I am trying to make is that the Munches are not Vanilla events at the moment and that certainly isn't stopping people queueing up to attend them.
Roger the Dragon

But it could well be a reason why a lot of people DONT want to attend..

10 Apr 2005

Quote by Steve_Mids

The point I am trying to make is that the Munches are not Vanilla events at the moment and that certainly isn't stopping people queueing up to attend them.
Roger the Dragon

But it could well be a reason why a lot of people DONT want to attend..
I wasn't going to post again on this thread but as you have insisted on quoting a post of mine from 9 pages deep in the thread then so be it!
I personally don't think there are a "lot" of people who don't want to attend the munches as they are at the moment - judging from the number being held, the demand for places and the effusive thank you threads afterwards.
If we go down the road that some people have suggested on here - dress codes, strict behavior codes, bouncers wandering the munch to check on peoples behavior etc. Then I think there will be a lot of people who then would not wish to attend.
The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.
I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.
Roger the Dragon 8-)

10 Apr 2005

In fact we are organising a munch and there wont be a strict dress code or gorilla's wandering round pouncing on people who slurp their cup of tea either...
What we hope is that people will adhere as close as is possible to the origional definition of a munch....That being a vanilla enviroment....
I quoted you from 9 pages into a long thread because that is as far as I got before I got fed up of going round in circles....

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.

The term "munch" is not meaningless at all as this thread has testified.... Also the term "munch" was one that was created by the site owner Mark, and the majority of us still maintain that his description should be adhered to....

I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

As has been already stated we intend to organise what will in effect be a munch but will be called a social party to ensure that we are able to pick and choose who we invite. This will ensure that the people that continue to ignore the true meaning of a munch will be excluded.
Shireen
xxx
Oh and btw roger, Steve has only posted now as he has been away for the weekend... We do have lives outside of SH

10 Apr 2005

Quote by Shireen_Mids
The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.

The term "munch" is not meaningless at all as this thread has testified.... Also the term "munch" was one that was created by the site owner Mark, and the majority of us still maintain that his description should be adhered to....

I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

As has been already stated we intend to organise what will in effect be a munch but will be called a social party to ensure that we are able to pick and choose who we invite. This will ensure that the people that continue to ignore the true meaning of a munch will be excluded.
Shireen
xxx
Oh and btw roger, Steve has only posted now as he has been away for the weekend... We do have lives outside of SH
I'm afraid you have just contradicted yourself in there - if as you say the majority of people on the site subscribe to your munch definition then why do you need to call your party a social event and pick and choose a group of attendees?
Also be careful with your guest list - there are quite a few people on here who say one thing and behave in another fashion - I am an honest tart and easy to ban! wink

Roger the Dragon cool

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.

It's not meaningless at all ~ I fail to see how you can see that. Munches are social events, where long standing and new members can get together and meet one another in a neutral environment.
The only expectation from a munch is that people enjoy themselves.
Parties are arranged by individuals who may or may not want a little more action or have greater expectations.
We may be adults in a swinging community, but not everyone is comfortable with public playing or activity and they shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable by those who are comfortable with it. The points raised by people in this thread come back to respect. OK you may want to have a little more public play but a munch isn't the correct place for this to happen. There are plenty of people will ing to arrange after munch parties where the rules are different and I don't see why it's such a big deal asking people to wait until the time is appropriate.
It's got nothing to do with the moralizing minority at all ... in fact from another point of view you could turn that statement around and say that there is a minority unwilling to respect others and retain some morals! It swings (no pun intended) both ways.

Quote by rogerthedragon
I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I have yet to see a munch advertised that doesn't lay down this criteria and they are all generally oversubscribed!
C x

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
I wasn't going to post again on this thread but as you have insisted on quoting a post of mine from 9 pages deep in the thread then so be it!

I'm rather glad you did post again roger it brings an alternative view to the thread and helps bring on debate

I personally don't think there are a "lot" of people who don't want to attend the munches as they are at the moment - judging from the number being held, the demand for places and the effusive thank you threads afterwards.

absolutely right, however can you not accept that if boundaries and acceptabilities are erroded further and further you may well reach a point where people dont want to attend.

If we go down the road that some people have suggested on here - dress codes, strict behavior codes, bouncers wandering the munch to check on peoples behavior etc. Then I think there will be a lot of people who then would not wish to attend.

surely only those that would prefer that a munch is something other than a social meeting? are you saying that you for instance, wouldn't attend a meeting with other members where there wasn't a chance of you groping, being groped or coping an eyefull of naked flesh?

The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.

This is excellent news, then lets let those that want to munch under the terms that have been discussed do so and the rest go to the very parties that you have identified.

I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I would love to go to such an event and even though your post has a hint of scorn within it, I believe that a number of others would also welcome such an event. The numbers may well be small, who knows, but hey lets just call it another event within the swingingheaven calander that may or may not fit certain individuals bills.

10 Apr 2005

Quote by Calista

I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I have yet to see a munch advertised that doesn't lay down this criteria and they are all generally oversubscribed!
C x
And I have yet to see anyone asked to leave for breaking those criteria - in fact we have a quite a few photos floating about of the "vanilla" behavior at munches.
It is one thing for a strict policy to be laid down and it is quite another for people to follow it - the majority of munch attendees want to let their hair down, have a laugh and tart about with their friends - the drink flows and people behave in a way that is never going to be described as vanilla.
I am aware that I am making no friends by pointing this out but at the end of the day I don't see the point in pretending it is not the case.
Roger the Dragon cool

10 Apr 2005

roger... we had this last night and i am really glad that you have posted again mate.. we are not going to agree on this but i am glad that you have...
maybe it is about time we took the term "munch" back....because it has been chipped away the time i have been here..... and then hopefully we will have much clearer defination of what a munch is.... or a meet..... or an after party, i am certainly not saying that i wouldn't go to them but at least people have a much better idea of what to kind of event to expect and how to behave...or not as the case may be....
sean xxxxxxxx

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
And I have yet to see anyone asked to leave for breaking those criteria - in fact we have a quite a few photos floating about of the "vanilla" behavior at munches.
It is one thing for a strict policy to be laid down and it is quite another for people to follow it - the majority of munch attendees want to let their hair down, have a laugh and tart about with their friends - the drink flows and people behave in a way that is never going to be described as vanilla.
I am aware that I am making no friends by pointing this out but at the end of the day I don't see the point in pretending it is not the case.
Roger the Dragon

This completely misses the point of this thread, which was accurately summarised by Missy in her first post on page 13, so I won't repeat it.
I'm with Cali, Steve and Shireen on this one. The issue was effectively settled when Blue received fairly widespread support for what is a set of guidelines - not rules many, many pages ago.

10 Apr 2005

Quote by davej

I wasn't going to post again on this thread but as you have insisted on quoting a post of mine from 9 pages deep in the thread then so be it!

I'm rather glad you did post again roger it brings an alternative view to the thread and helps bring on debate

I personally don't think there are a "lot" of people who don't want to attend the munches as they are at the moment - judging from the number being held, the demand for places and the effusive thank you threads afterwards.

absolutely right, however can you not accept that if boundaries and acceptabilities are erroded further and further you may well reach a point where people dont want to attend.
To be honest I'm not sure that boundaries are being eroded - a lot of the behavior I have referred to happened 6 months ago and from what I have heard was already accuring at munches before then.

If we go down the road that some people have suggested on here - dress codes, strict behavior codes, bouncers wandering the munch to check on peoples behavior etc. Then I think there will be a lot of people who then would not wish to attend.

surely only those that would prefer that a munch is something other than a social meeting? are you saying that you for instance, wouldn't attend a meeting with other members where there wasn't a chance of you groping, being groped or coping an eyefull of naked flesh?
I have actually organised what was intended to be a purely social meet - not a munch but with no intent on my part for there to be anything more than a drink and a chat and a few snogs - unsurprisingly it didn't end at that!

The term "Munch" is already becoming meaningless on the site - there are a lot of people who are just organising "parties" and having a good time - these may not be called munches but the philosophy is the same without the navel-gazeing and without the need to have a moralizing minority staring over their shoulder.

This is excellent news, then lets let those that want to munch under the terms that have been discussed do so and the rest go to the very parties that you have identified.

I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I would love to go to such an event and even though your post has a hint of scorn within it, I believe that a number of others would also welcome such an event. The numbers may well be small, who knows, but hey lets just call it another event within the swingingheaven calander that may or may not fit certain individuals bills.

I will actually apologise for the scorn in there because I am quite happy for an event to be completely vanilla - I have put myself down for Venus' paintballing where the most intimate think I'm likely to do is shoot someone in the arse. I also intended to attend the Medieval banquet where I would have done nothing but chat to people as it was at a public venue (From the looks of the pics the behavior wasn't exactly along my idea of vanilla but I wasn't there dunno

). The point I am trying to make is that munches don't stay vanilla once people get drunk and horny - but neither do parties in real life!
Roger the Dragon cool

10 Apr 2005

Its almost like this thread is being conducted in a huge empty auditorium , with fabulous acoustic ic ic ic ic ic ic ic s
Hello o o o o

10 Apr 2005

Quote by fabio grooverider
roger... we had this last night and i am really glad that you have posted again mate.. we are not going to agree on this but i am glad that you have...
maybe it is about time we took the term "munch" back....because it has been chipped away the time i have been here..... and then hopefully we will have much clearer defination of what a munch is.... or a meet..... or an after party, i am certainly not saying that i wouldn't go to them but at least people have a much better idea of what to kind of event to expect and how to behave...or not as the case may be....
sean xxxxxxxx

Surely the name doesn't matter Fabio, the event is a "Social Gathering" not a swinging party, and surely we should all be adult enough to realise the difference. I for one will go to Munches, expecting nothing more than getting to know people, the chance to become seriously involved in SwingingHeaven by being known to others and to know others.
If on the other hand I have gone to a party, or somewhere that people play, then my behaviour would be modified to suit the location.
John

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I don't see anywhere on this thread where people have suggested that we adopt "strict" dress codes or attempting to ban "raunchy" behaviour. I don't think that expecting people to refrain from adopting levels of nudity that would not be acceptable in your average pub, or partaking in acts that would not be seen in normal pubs to be unreasonable. I say again, the definition of a munch was always intended to be one of a SOCIAL environment, not a sexual one. People can dress sexily and be raunchy or flirty in a social environment without being so overtly sexual that it offends people who are going to a munch to meet and socialise with their friends.
I really don't see the problem here confused

10 Apr 2005

Quote by Silk and Big G
Its almost like this thread is being conducted in a huge empty auditorium , with fabulous acoustic ic ic ic ic ic ic ic s
Hello o o o o

Good point! lol

:lol: :lol:
So on that note:
Goodbye ye ye ye e e e e.

10 Apr 2005

Zactly , dont you think barring the echos this thread was over about ten pages ago ?

10 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
- I have put myself down for Venus' paintballing where the most intimate think I'm likely to do is shoot someone in the arse.
Roger the Dragon

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
sorry, but thats tickled me......visions of members leaping around the woods with clear evidence of Rogers marksmans skills emblazoned on their arses.

10 Apr 2005

Quote by bluexxx
I would suggest you organise a munch with a strict dress-code and a clear statement that anyone who decided to behave in a raunchy way would be asked to leave, it would be rather interesting to see how many people attended and also interesting to see what behavior actually took place.

I don't see anywhere on this thread where people have suggested that we adopt "strict" dress codes or attempting to ban "raunchy" behaviour. I don't think that expecting people to refrain from adopting levels of nudity that would not be acceptable in your average pub, or partaking in acts that would not be seen in normal pubs to be unreasonable. I say again, the definition of a munch was always intended to be one of a SOCIAL environment, not a sexual one. People can dress sexily and be raunchy or flirty in a social environment without being so overtly sexual that it offends people who are going to a munch to meet and socialise with their friends.
I really don't see the problem here confused

Spot on :thumbup: :thumbup:

10 Apr 2005

Just a thought, If a Munch or whatever you wish to call it happens in a pub/public place,open to the public in general, then would it not be acceptable to accept that ANY behaviour that you would not expect to find in a pub/public place is deemed unacceptable? What you do in your own home/private party is entirely up to you as to what is ok or not. Also in a private club , rules however trivial apply and I think this is the issue of confusion that runs in some comments so far? it seems to depend from what angle you look at it!

10 Apr 2005

Quote by peenut
Just a thought, If a Munch or whatever you wish to call it happens in a pub/public place,open to the public in general, then would it not be acceptable to accept that ANY behaviour that you would not expect to find in a pub/public place is deemed unacceptable?

Very true. That is why I stated the obvious in the details I sent out to attenders of the recent Manchester mini munch:
We do not have this bar to ourselves, though the bar staff are aware that a party from an adult web-site are meeting there. You may be concerned, due to recent discussions on the forum, about what is appropriate behaviour for munches. While the staff of XXXXXXXXXXXXX will be comfortable with same- and opposite sex kissing and affectionate behaviours, overt sexual behaviours in the bar will not be tolerated. XXXXXXXXXXXXX is NOT a swingers club. Please exercise respect for the bar staff and the public and save the sex for after the munch!
The dress code is very relaxed. Wear whatever you like, but again, please respect that the bar staff and the public will not want to see anything that is indecent! Smart, casual, or something a little more sexy (yet decent!) is fine.
No-one had a problem with this "rule" (to my knowledge), and everyone appeared to enjoy themselves.
Silk and Big G have a point..... surely we have this sorted by now, don't we?

10 Apr 2005

Quote by davej

- I have put myself down for Venus' paintballing where the most intimate think I'm likely to do is shoot someone in the arse.
Roger the Dragon

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
sorry, but thats tickled me......visions of members leaping around the woods with clear evidence of Rogers marksmans skills emblazoned on their arses.
I have visions of arses leaping around the woods with clear evidence of Rogers marksmans skills on their members.
Sorry folks, couldnt resist that one! biggrin

11 Apr 2005

Quote by bluexxx
Just a thought, If a Munch or whatever you wish to call it happens in a pub/public place,open to the public in general, then would it not be acceptable to accept that ANY behaviour that you would not expect to find in a pub/public place is deemed unacceptable?

Very true. That is why I stated the obvious in the details I sent out to attenders of the recent Manchester mini munch:
We do not have this bar to ourselves, though the bar staff are aware that a party from an adult web-site are meeting there. You may be concerned, due to recent discussions on the forum, about what is appropriate behaviour for munches. While the staff of XXXXXXXXXXXXX will be comfortable with same- and opposite sex kissing and affectionate behaviours, overt sexual behaviours in the bar will not be tolerated. XXXXXXXXXXXXX is NOT a swingers club. Please exercise respect for the bar staff and the public and save the sex for after the munch!
The dress code is very relaxed. Wear whatever you like, but again, please respect that the bar staff and the public will not want to see anything that is indecent! Smart, casual, or something a little more sexy (yet decent!) is fine.
No-one had a problem with this "rule" (to my knowledge), and everyone appeared to enjoy themselves.
Silk and Big G have a point..... surely we have this sorted by now, don't we?
Must admit that we would have loved to attend the mini-munchs* that were organised in Manchester, even more so now that I've seen the guidelines that were laid down.
Why do people seem to think that you need to get completely plastered, or run round groping, or waving bodyparts round to have a good time? I guess that everyone who attended the mini-munchs* enjoyed themselves immensly?
I get the feeling that this thread will get a few more comments from the people that haven't been on over the weekend and it's worth bumping so people who may be attending munches and don't have net access over the weekend can get an idea of why these guidelines have come into being.+
*: use the term Mini-munch as I don't know what else to call them.
+: I assume that these guidelines have been accepted or recommended to organisers.

11 Apr 2005

it has taken me over an hour to read this thread!!!!!!!!!!
sigh..... its like being at work - i go away for a while and come back to everything piled up on my desk!!!!!!!!!!!
Firstly I would like to point out that regardless of where or why you are at a party NO ONE should ever be touched in anyway that makes them feel uncomfortable.
Being a swinger means that you sometimes chose to share your body with people whom you have chosen to â€“ not that it is there to be anybodyâ€™s!
I actually think though that non-consensual touching, groping, kissing (being illegal at worst - and morally wrong at best) is a different subject to people pushing the boundaries of a social meet with other consenting adults..
I am by nature a very tactile person; I hug my friends and hold hands with them when walking down the street.
I feel that kissing people I know and have got to know on line is only one step further than shaking their hand.
What I DO know is that there have been times when at munches I have had people I do not know see me walk over to a friend and kiss them â€“ who have then assumed that I must be fair game for a snog from anyone, and try their luck.
All I can say is that they have left less optimistic that they came.
I do not think that this is a â€œmunchâ€ problem thoughâ€¦ I have had guys in vanilla nightclubs try to snog and grope me â€“ resulting in a red hand on my part â€“ and a red face ( in more ways than one) on theirs!!!
I think that it is just a sad and disturbing fact that in any walk of life and any situation there are going to be people who take advantage and try to do things that are inappropriate.
I am not for one second suggesting that it should be accepted and brushed under the carpet â€“ I am just saying it is something that can â€œ just as easily happen at a munch as anywhere elseâ€, rather than its something that happens because you are at a munch.
As for inappropriate behaviour at munches, Angel chat said it all when she explained how scared she and I were on our first munch, how we held on to each others hands for dear life and run straight to the toilet â€“ looking neither left or right.
I admit I was terrified, but it was not the prospect of people flashing that scared me , it was meeting a large group of people.
I think that we are all liberated and open minded adults and should therefore not be shocked by slightly racier flirting than you see in the average night down the local bingo hall.
I can see though why people may feel that it is time for some kind of standards to be set in place.
due to reasons explained in this http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/40760.html post..... i Find it quite difficult to say how I feel about this subject.
I admit to being one of the ones who may deserve the wrath of some of the posters in this thread, I have flashed my boobs (and more) when at munches.
I was the one who nearly gave a ninety year old man a heart attack when walking up the stairs in my nurses dress to get into the munch in Mansfield.
These are things though that would not seem odd on a normal girls night out where I live though.
I can totally accept that people come to the munches for a social time, in future I will be the same, but that does not mean that I expect it to be devoid of any show of sexuality.
Whilst I will probably not feel comfortable with someone writhing on the table in front of me whilst I am doing my lipstick, I would not bat an eyelid at someone groping an acquaintance in passing.
I look at it as watching TV, whilst going to a sex party is like tuning into the channel5 porno, going to a munch is like watching ITV after the watershed.
You did not actively seek scenes of orgies, but are aware that there may be some scenes â€œ that viewers may find slightly risquÃ©â€.
Hope this helps to confuse you all even more!
WBB
x

11 Apr 2005

I think I have been to more munches than anyone apart from Steve g, and I have just read through 16 pages of posts - this whole thread, though I admit I skip-read the posts from people who have never been to a munch.
I think part of the problem lies with the fact that, as as surfaced here in discussions as well, that too many newer people here, and some not-so new, have this idea that if someone is a swinger, it is assumed that they MUST be up for sex with anyone at any time. It must be emphasised in any guidelines for munches (and I agree with blue's draft), that members here are as particular as anyone else is with regard to any sexual behaviour at all, even flirting. I have chatted with quite a few people at munches who admitted that they were going full pelt out to line up a shag and had very little regard for general socialising. This is a big part of the problem, and once alcohol begins to take its effect, it is no wonder that ...yes, sexual assaults (yes, I agree that's what they should be regarded as) beginning to take place as the evening wears on. And yes, general rudeness is a problem as well, I have been shoved out of the way while queuing at the barseveral times, and had people interrupt my chats with people LOADS of times. I nearly always resolve at the end of a munch not to come to another one, but something (the friendly ones here) keeps me going, even though I am one of the quiet ones who doesn't get many chats in, even with some of the regular munchers.
But yes, more guidelines are the answer.
Mike.

24 Apr 2005

16 bloody pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i've just hunted this thread down, casue i wanted to add something, but now seing its 16 pages, i have a fear that i'd of repeated something that has already been said!.. and i'm too lazy to read 310 posts!.

24 Apr 2005

Quote by Jiggle
16 bloody pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i've just hunted this thread down, casue i wanted to add something, but now seing its 16 pages, i have a fear that i'd of repeated something that has already been said!.. and i'm too lazy to read 310 posts!.

I'm sure someone will summarise it for you if you ask them nicely lol