Just to balance things out a little, I'd like to point out that the manager of the Essex Munch pub made a point of finding me as things were winding down and saying how amazed he was that so many people managed to consume so much alcohol in such a confined space with absolutely no trouble whatsoever.
It would be easy for a newbie to see this thread and get scared, but that would be the wrong impression to take away from this thread. I believe that muches are actually far, far better behaved than most nights at pubs/clubs with similar numbers and age-ranges.
The fact that we've spent 22 pages agonising over the fact that behaviour at munches is occasionally not quite perfect is a sign of how much we care about these things, not that these things are commonplace, out of control, or happen more often than they would in everyday life.
I hope that the person in discussion with Jiggle has read this and decided that he needs to change his behaviour in the future.
I would also hope that the motivation for such a change is shame and a seeing of the light, rather than a “shit I might get booted and not be able to get a shagâ€
Dambuster, stood up and publicly apologised, and my view is, fair play to him for it. He has obviously got some guts and I therefore respect him for that. However, if this was just the latest of a long line of incidents I might have a different view!
Back to the nameless guy, I can only assume he is a long term member probably with over 500 posts, probably known for his witty and/or intelligent posts, well known to members and mods alike and respected by most. The fact that he decided an apology wasn’t iniattally required and, one can only assume, has only made some sort of one due to this thread, tells you a lot about this guy.
I don’t believe in witch hunts or naming and shaming I just think he should be treated the same way as anyone else. Would a 25 post member, not particularly known, who had acted this way be banned? Why would he have been banned? Amongst other reasons of acceptable behaviour etc he would have been banned to ensure that he didn’t cause similar incidents at future munchies.
I believe in giving most people a second chance when they try to put things right, not sure about this case.
I think enough has been said about the incident and the rights and wrongs of it all.
I think it should be left up to the individuals concerned to sort it out via emails, pm’s or phone, without anyone else.
I am also amazed that people who were NOT even there are able to comment about something they did not see. :shock:
This thread needs to go back to open debate about Social gatherings / munches in general
To everyone else - What I cannot understand is the number of people who did not see the incident and were not even there – suddenly have an opinion on it and have taken it upon themselves to escalate the issue, suggest suitable punishment and are pretty much close to inciting a witch-hunt.
We , the ones that were not there, have commented because we care about jiggle and hate to see him being bullied (intentionaly or not)
Also people must realise that what goes on at any sh meeting, be it munch or party or whatever, reflects upon the site and the other users. My greatest fear is that one day munch antics are going to land the site in the national press. Mark and others have put in a lot of work to make sh what it is today, and I for wone whould hate to see all that work dystroyed by a drunken "prank"
The comments about how people cant comment about something, which no-one has said didnt happen, just because they werent there, do surprise me.
I wasnt a witness to the recent stabbing of a young mum, I havent been to a nazi concentration camp, I havent been a victim of or seen domestic violence, can I comment on these or are my views invalid?
Bullying takes many forms, you only need know it happened, rather than the exact nature, to have a view.
Not been to a munch as of yet, hopefully will soon.
Not sure what I was expecting from a munch and after reading various comments still none the wiser, but I certainly haven't been put off in any way, intrigued and curious maybe but not put off.
My idea was really to treat it like I would treat any other evening out where I was away from my local area and with a group of people who to me are still relative strangers, stand back and watch, initially at least. Then once I've gauged what is accepted/not accepted try to blend in with the crowd.
I'm not really looking at this as a gathering of Swingers just a group of people having a laugh and a drink.
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Ive had a long hard think about this since it was first raised and i dont think that in general thers anything wrong in the conduct of people during munches.I know that a few peoplke have had some things done to them that are not right and these things need addressing,but that cant be done on the night in my opinion.
Firstly,people are too pissed to make a proper apprasial of what is best on the night and secondly all the i nformation needs to be taken in.
Im not saying thta whats happened to certain people isnt bad and beyond what is right but what im saying is that in general instances the only chance to take neccesary action to sort out the people who have wronged is in the light of the day.
But i would say that if anyone does see anyone in genuine distress please help them and ask the people concerned what is going on.
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You say people are too pissed (sorry but can not get the quote thing working!). This seems to be a problem in the UK in general if you look at the TV.
As has been said earlier, if you go to a public party why do people get pissed? Is it not possible to control the beer intake for a couple of hours?
Individuals are responsible for their own actions and I'm sorry, but as an excuse being "pissed" is simply not viable. If a driver causes an accident when he is drunk does that make it OK? I think not!
Adults must take responsibility for their actions and being "pissed" is never an excuse. If you are at a private event - then OK people can do what they want, but in a public party getting pissed should actually result in the pub/club/hotel owner barring people because they are liable.
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