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no if its got 18 + tag then it wont be in the gallery for non members to see, or viewable on my profile.
but from what i gather non members can no longer view all the gallery, just a tease front page.
xx fem xx
Quote by fem_4_taboo
ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?
there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?
safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?
im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. confused
xx fem xx

I've moved all my pictures to private as well what is the point of us doing the work for the site, if you want to have a select people rate them like mods then fine, but I aint having everyone else do it.
Quote by admin
The idea behind the system is so you can browse the photos that you want to.
The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content. The data will be used to display the clearer better quality of images first, with the blurry ones at the back of the search query after we get the new search implemented.
The categories that the images are tagged into will be used to filter the images that you want to see e.g. if you are a couple looking for another couple, living 30 miles away, and not wanting to see cock shots, the new search will be able to meet that criteria. Currently the gallery has nil functionality or use for any thing other than looking at pictures, Russian Roulette style.
Currently there are nearly half a million photos that need to be categorised before any new relevant search can be implemented. We are actively encouraging users to tag their own photos that are uploaded and there will be an announcement on your homepage in the next few days.
Swinging Heaven is looking for ways to make all areas of the site more relevant and usable for the members. Our goal is continual improvement and listening to our member feedback. In the recent site surveys, a relevant image search was one of the top three points that our member base was asking for. As you are aware there are a large number of site improvements being worked on at the moment that will be rolled out over the next 18 months.

So I understand its so you can search on photos by distance from you as well as various other things, wouldnt it be better to improve the search engine on here first as I wouldnt want to search someone just by pictures, I can see them when I look on profiles.
Quote by soul_girl
ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?
there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?
safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?
im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. confused
xx fem xx

I've moved all my pictures to private as well what is the point of us doing the work for the site, if you want to have a select people rate them like mods then fine, but I aint having everyone else do it.
This point has already been answered previously and is on your home page
"If you tag your own then your classification will be the ones used NOT any public tags."
So no-one else will be tagging yours if you have already done it!
They are only asking you to help out with the pics of members who rarely log in and to help the site, you know, like give a little back? If you don't wish to do anyone elses, that's fine, just leave them and carry on using the site as you have been previously and let those who are prepared to help, help.
The search engine is being improved, but it wont be launched until later in the year. It will only be as accurate as the information it can search on, hence the request (not an order) for people to help gather this information.
I hope that helps you understand their request.
Mal
Quote by admin
The idea behind the system is so you can browse the photos that you want to.
The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content. The data will be used to display the clearer better quality of images first, with the blurry ones at the back of the search query after we get the new search implemented.
Swinging Heaven is looking for ways to make all areas of the site more relevant and usable for the members. Our goal is continual improvement and listening to our member feedback. In the recent site surveys, a relevant image search was one of the top three points that our member base was asking for.

I've snipped a fair bit for space - not to skew the argument.
I'm sorry, but does ANYONE actually believe this - - - "The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content." is what will happen? I certainly don't.
I agree a relevant search that includes or is based on what images are available is needed - but a subjective judgment on quality (be it subject or image quality) is wholly inappropriate. The people making these value judgments are not monitored, guided or even asked to justify their judgments and - as far as I have understood - their input is entirely anonymous. Validation is bad enough - anonymous validation (by any other name) is unacceptable.
If admin want to have everyone put their images in private galleries so no-one gets to see them without an invite, they have done exactly the right thing.
I have never cared who looked at my pictures - I have none in private galleries, but I will be spending the night working out how to put them in a private gallery. I also wish to be informed how to remove the tags that are already on them. Or is being the public subject of other people's anonymous judgments mandatory now?
Frankly the more I think about this, the angrier I get.
Quote by Mal
"If you tag your own then your classification will be the ones used NOT any public tags."
So no-one else will be tagging yours if you have already done it!
Mal

this is why I'm not bothered in the slightest.
But hang on I dont mind my photos being in the public gallery and I know people can view them all and it might take hours to find ours on there, and I dont mind them being viewed by my profile, but I dont want people then being able to search for people by my photos on how far away they are from me.
For one I would like the system to be sorted so the pictures collectors can not download any pictures from the site for a start.
And I have tagged some of the pictures on our soul_girl accounts, then went onto our soul_boy account and viewed the pictures on soul_girl account and I could tag them again through soul_boy account.
I think our pictures will be staying in private for now.
Ok, having trawled through some of the hundreds of posts on this I found a comment about tagging yourself stops anyone else doing it? I may have interpreted that wrongly.
Well I did that.
Is there a place where the tagging this is explained? Not just how to do it, but the implications of it all?
It seems the only information about it is scattered through this thread. And a lot of the comments (including my own) are based on speculation and rumour for lack of specific information.
The thing i dont understand is this, why are admin encouraging picture collectors and timewasters on the site?
The reason i say this is because i always thought this was a swinging site, a site were people could find like minded people to enjoy consenting adult fun. Not a site where you come to browse amature porn.
Like someone on here has already commented pics are far to easily taken from the site, making it a picture collectors paradise, and now we want to catagorise each and every picture so that they can search and find what they want even more easily!
If anything we need a better profile search not a photo search. Firstly adding a logged in this week/fortnight/month so that we only bring up active members when searching. Also improving the search so it only gives the searcher results that they are compatable to...
E.G.
Single male searches for couples in a 30 mile radius... the search would only bring up couples who are looking for single men who live within that distance. Therefor helping to cut down unwanted messages from those who dont bother reading profiles or just chance their hands...
If you really wanted to go whole hog you could go into more detail such as personal preferences - age range, race, size, full/soft swap etc
I dont see how catagorising pictures helps in any way, the information people need to know about whoever is in the pictures should be in the profile... if anything admin should restrict access to the site to all those who have not filled in their profile that would be far more benificial.
Quote by two-4-more
The thing i dont understand is this, why are admin encouraging picture collectors and timewasters on the site?
The reason i say this is because i always thought this was a swinging site, a site were people could find like minded people to enjoy consenting adult fun. Not a site where you come to browse amature porn.
Like someone on here has already commented pics are far to easily taken from the site, making it a picture collectors paradise, and now we want to catagorise each and every picture so that they can search and find what they want even more easily!
If anything we need a better profile search not a photo search. Firstly adding a logged in this week/fortnight/month so that we only bring up active members when searching. Also improving the search so it only gives the searcher results that they are compatable to...
E.G.
Single male searches for couples in a 30 mile radius... the search would only bring up couples who are looking for single men who live within that distance. Therefor helping to cut down unwanted messages from those who dont bother reading profiles or just chance their hands...
If you really wanted to go whole hog you could go into more detail such as personal preferences - age range, race, size, full/soft swap etc
I dont see how catagorising pictures helps in any way, the information people need to know about whoever is in the pictures should be in the profile... if anything admin should restrict access to the site to all those who have not filled in their profile that would be far more benificial.

Totally agree with your comments my friend biggrin
I have tagged all my pictures, but it still says "help tag these pictures..." grr.
Please take this feature off!!!!!!
Quote by soul_girl
But hang on I dont mind my photos being in the public gallery and I know people can view them all and it might take hours to find ours on there, and I dont mind them being viewed by my profile, but I dont want people then being able to search for people by my photos on how far away they are from me.
For one I would like the system to be sorted so the pictures collectors can not download any pictures from the site for a start.
And I have tagged some of the pictures on our soul_girl accounts, then went onto our soul_boy account and viewed the pictures on soul_girl account and I could tag them again through soul_boy account.
I think our pictures will be staying in private for now.
Quote by Mal
They are only asking you to help out with the pics of members who rarely log in and to help the site, you know, like give a little back?

Forgive my stupidity, but how is paying 60 quid a year not giving more than a little back????
Quote by Mal
If you don't wish to do anyone elses, that's fine, just leave them and carry on using the site as you have been previously and let those who are prepared to help, help.

Fine, but give us the option to prevent our photos from being tagged, as I see it we have 2 options:
1) Tag the photos ourselves.
2) Let others tag the photos
Option 3 appears to be missing (just like admin appear to be missing from this thread now) which is :
3) Omit picture from search.
Last time I checked this was not a pay monthly amateur porn site, so why are our photos NOW being treated as if they are part of one? And why on earth would a genuine swinger be wanting to use a targetted search on pictures? Surely that's what the tick boxes are for in the profile.
mad :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
THIS IS JUST SO WRONG.
My one and only public photo is on page 281 of the galleries... in the female section. I waded through all of those pages to attempt to tag my own photo.
Am I able to? No. There is no option available to me to tag my own photo. I can however, tag the lady beside me on that very same page. rolleyes
So... has someone tagged my photo already? dunno
I think many are moving their pics to private since they don't want them categorised by others.
Perhaps a good option would be to allow the different categories to be selected by the owners not the viewers and reverse the trend from nopublic pics.
perving just isn't what it was
Alex
We made comments on this subject but they have been removed, why? We made comment that the pictures can still be tagged by someone else even if you have tagged them because as we have two accounts on here we tried it.
I have since gone back into our accounts to try and tag all the photos and it wont let me do any of them. So can someone in admin please remove the tags that have been put on our photos allowing us to do it ourselves, when the option to tag them in private is available.
As a paying customer of the site, I would like someone to explain to us why the comments were removed and why wasnt the whole issue locked and the photo tagging put on hold until it is sorted correctly.
Just to note... if you have photos attached to any adverts, regardless of whether or not they've now been moved into your private album, they can still be tagged.
My photos have also been removed from my ads.
Quote by Sixfootsix
Last time I checked this was not a pay monthly amateur porn site ...

Whatever made you think that? lol
Why should there be a picture search at all on a swinging site? What purpose do cams in chat rooms really serve - do they really help people meet or just provide opportunity for voyeurs and exhibitionists?
972,735 members at present. What proportion of the members who have actually logged in in the last 12 months are looking for anything other than fantasy and a quick peek at amateur porn? I would hazard a guess that it is very small.
It's in the owners interest to have a searchable photo-base, just like it is to have video chat - it attracts the people that they are looking for. Those that pay the money and don't rock the boat. :lol:
Your photos are just a juicy worm on the end of a hook.
ps The number of signed up members has risen by over 20 in the time I have been writing this. confused Keep on posting pictures and camming, admin needs YOU! :lol:
Do not worry to much about the "Tagging" bit peeps.
The powers that be are experts in it so I am sure it will be safe (not).
Call it what you will :-
Tagging
Verify (heard a similar word like that before someplace)
or even as on another site I have just come across, RATE. Now I wonder who owns that site. Some very nice "Rate"ed" pictures on it as well.
medic_1
Quote by soul_girl
We made comments on this subject but they have been removed, why?

You still have 3 posts on page 10 of this thread
IF and I repeat IF the rating system is to identify and classify the different quality of the pictures...
(I think by now even the most retarded amongst us, which would probably be me, has understood that whatever the intent, probably it WILL be misused)..
can you please explain to me what purpose it serves, to know that there are x number of photos of quality 2, and y number of quality 7 or 10? who would ever go and look for pics of quality less than say, 5? and who in his right mind would ever rate his pic 1 or 2?
seriously..what is the practical application of having a series of pictures rated 2-3 or 4? who would benefit from it?
as I see it, not the profile holders, as they would never be "looked for"..not the pervers, because they'd not be interested..the website then? how?
something tells me we'll all end up with profiles selfrated at top levels..which defeats the purpose of rating.
Well I just did mine... they're all a 10, they're all female and they're all fetish.
What use that will be to anyone I'm not entirely sure. confused Indeed the answer at the moment will be no use because they're all private. rolleyes
How did you do it? I can't even find a way of tagging mine confused The only way I can think of is to make them public, tag them, then put them back to private dunno
Quote by Angel Chat
How did you do it? I can't even find a way of tagging mine confused The only way I can think of is to make them public, tag them, then put them back to private dunno

which is exactly what we have tried to do - but if you make em private & then change your mind to making em public again the 'tagging' needs to be re-done before somelse does it
Quote by Laff_n_Chilli
How did you do it? I can't even find a way of tagging mine confused The only way I can think of is to make them public, tag them, then put them back to private dunno

which is exactly what we have tried to do - but if you make em private & then change your mind to making em public again the 'tagging' needs to be re-done before somelse does it
Thanks Laff n Chilli. So I may as well just leave them private anyway then :?
Still no option to have them public but not viewable in the public gallery Admin? rolleyes
Quote by Angel Chat
How did you do it? I can't even find a way of tagging mine confused The only way I can think of is to make them public, tag them, then put them back to private dunno

which is exactly what we have tried to do - but if you make em private & then change your mind to making em public again the 'tagging' needs to be re-done before somelse does it
Thanks Laff n Chilli. So I may as well just leave them private anyway then :?
Still no option to have them public but not viewable in the public gallery Admin? rolleyes
Also if you send out a private album invite, the person invited can then tag your pics....
ok let me see if i've got this right
MY personal tag on my photo's will over ride anybody elses tag - so why should i care that some twit for a laugh decided to tag me as a transvestite? Anyone searching under that when the new system comes in, should they then seek me out will be put straight by me should they mail me, so where is the problem?
My pictures unless when i've downloaded them straight into my private album (which is rare) have always been viewable in the public domain via the gallery. I dont have a problem with this, its always been the same when downloading photos so why are people so up in arms now?
And the rating as i understand it, which will be my rating, no one elses as i have tagged my photos, is based upon the quality of the actual picture quality (ie pixels) rather than whether i think i'm the bees knees
I'm sorry i'm having a hard time understanding why something which is simply a search function for the million or so pics on here is getting people so worked up.
Maybe someone can explain it to me as all i seem to have read on this thread is some ppl determined to believe this is a verification process by a different name.
I personally would be more concerned that avatars used amongst the forum users are viewable by total non-members, but thats another thread.......
I just had a look at the gallery - for the first time since I normally only look at someone's pics from their profile.
What's the point of it? It appears to be a random selection of images with no way to progress to someone's profile or message the person if I were to find them interesting.
Being able to filter the search a bit more would be useful to one level, but if I still can't get to someone's profile from there, what's the point?
It certainly isn't set up as a way to select potential contacts - it is set up as a perve's lucky dip.
I'd never been in the gallery prior to this thread. I had no idea that the pictures I'd uploaded to my profile were automatically inserted into the gallery, I assumed (wrongly) that you chose to use that part of the site, just as you choose to use the ads section or the forums or the chatrooms and that people had to be a member to view my pics.
I've been in the position before on a different swinging site where my photos were on public view for all to see and they were copied and inserted into a totally different (non-swinging) forum without my consent. That was totally inappropriate. Whilst I appreciate that we should all be aware that as soon as you put photographs on the internet then you should expect that people will steal them and put them elsewhere without your permission, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be careful.
Since finding out that my photos were on public display for all to see I've removed them and put them in my private album. That's a personal choice to a certain extent but I feel my choice to show my photos on my profile for members only to view has been taken away. I do not have the choice to have them on my profile for all members to see, I have to have them in my private album and issue an invitation to particular people so they can view them. I again (wrongly) assumed that non-members could not see my photos as they are not permitted to look at my profile.
Your privacy may not be an issue to you Purple, but mine is to me.
As for the tagging... I've already made my feelings clear in this thread so I won't go into it again. wink
So:
Is the direction of the site heading towards an 'amateur porn' site?
lp
Quote by Dirtygirly
Your privacy may not be an issue to you Purple, but mine is to me.

Just wanted to clarify, privacy is an issue for me as i'm sure it is to all those on the site, but that i knew what i was signing into. I run as much risk from people, full members, copying my photos and placing where they fancy around the net as i do from complete strangers/non members.
Short of having either no photos or placing them all in my private album there is no way to get away from that, i've never been aware of it being any different on here.