I saw in the news on sky this morning about Nigella Lawson saying that she would kill a bear and wear its skin.... there was a lot more said, but too much to put here. I was wondering what you guys think? Im searching for a link and will post it when I find one....
I'm a vegetarian, and have some pretty strong thoughts on this.... was it just for publicity because she has another new book out .. or what???
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Nigella Lawson.. and fur.
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
As long as the rest of the animal is used, then I see no problem in raising and killing any animal.
Dave_Notts
I feel the same as you Dave really. Sometimes I feel guilty that i do feel the same, thinking that i should feel differently but I don't. As long as its used to its potential i'm cool with it.
Sex God
Whilst I absolutely respect the right of vegetarians and vegans etc to hold the views they do, I personally think that it is part of a natural cycle for some animals (and we are, in essence, animals) to eat other animals.
I do think that we sometimes take a rather cavalier attitude towards the animals we kill. I am always reminded of more (allegedly) 'primitive' cultures who, in my opinion, actually treat the animals they live off with more respect than we do. I am thinking of eskimos who might eat seal meat, wear the fur, use the blubber as fat for cooking or as grease (in the way we would use vaseline), use sinews as thread etc. The American Indians treated the buffalo they killed in the same manner. Nothing was wasted. We should treat our natural resources in the same way that these societies who lived in harmony with their environment did.
Will
I do think that we sometimes take a rather cavalier attitude towards the animals we kill. I am always reminded of more (allegedly) 'primitive' cultures who, in my opinion, actually treat the animals they live off with more respect than we do. I am thinking of eskimos who might eat seal meat, wear the fur, use the blubber as fat for cooking or as grease (in the way we would use vaseline), use sinews as thread etc. The American Indians treated the buffalo they killed in the same manner. Nothing was wasted. We should treat our natural resources in the same way that these societies who lived in harmony with their environment did.
Will
Sex God
Oooh, will have to think about this one. Am kinda a "not entirely sure how I feel on this one - especially if rest of animal is used as others have said.
Hmmm... off to think and will be back.
Hmmm... off to think and will be back.
Its all very contradictory anyway.
Meat is the product of a vegetarian diet.
Rainforests are being destroyed to make way for vegetarian cattle to consume grass, so that we can eat the product of vegetarian diets.
Equally vast areas of natural habitats are being turned over to agriculture to grow vegetables, and in so doing reducing the habitations of animals, leading to endangered species.
So I am not sure one is any better than the other, except for when it comes to taste. :rascal:
As for Nigella, all fur coat and no knickers?
Meat is the product of a vegetarian diet.
Rainforests are being destroyed to make way for vegetarian cattle to consume grass, so that we can eat the product of vegetarian diets.
Equally vast areas of natural habitats are being turned over to agriculture to grow vegetables, and in so doing reducing the habitations of animals, leading to endangered species.
So I am not sure one is any better than the other, except for when it comes to taste. :rascal:
As for Nigella, all fur coat and no knickers?
Sex God
Assuming said species isn't endangered. To kill for meat and throw the skin (and vice versa) is a waste.
I understand some have great fur and inedible or skant meat and I'm pretty sure pig-skin isn't all that attractive, but the principle is sound.
I understand some have great fur and inedible or skant meat and I'm pretty sure pig-skin isn't all that attractive, but the principle is sound.
Master of Sex
Quote by foxylady2209
Assuming said species isn't endangered. To kill for meat and throw the skin (and vice versa) is a waste.
I understand some have great fur and inedible or skant meat and I'm pretty sure pig-skin isn't all that attractive, but the principle is sound.
pigskin makes great leather products, including pork scratchings if you have good teeth lol
Some randomish Sunday morning thoughts:
I would pretty much like to be Nigella - apart from sleeping with whichever Saatchi she's married to, but even that might be worth it for the art collection and the freedom the wealth would bring.
It bugs me when people who kill animals for food (or get animals killed for them) then get so upset about veal and fur....
I'd wear fur if I were a cave girl, or a Siberian (I've been there in Winter - it would be cold enough to freeze my qualms), but I'd eat the mammoth too.
Although the animals that end up on meat eaters' tables were indeed vegetarian, it takes many thousands of portions of grain, water etc to produce one portion of meat - but just the one portion to produce the meal for the non-meat eater. Vegetarianism is just so good for the planet!
Somewhere in the attic is one of my Grandmother's fur coats complete with two heads, tails and paws hanging off the collar. Macabre!
Right! More coffee...
I would pretty much like to be Nigella - apart from sleeping with whichever Saatchi she's married to, but even that might be worth it for the art collection and the freedom the wealth would bring.
It bugs me when people who kill animals for food (or get animals killed for them) then get so upset about veal and fur....
I'd wear fur if I were a cave girl, or a Siberian (I've been there in Winter - it would be cold enough to freeze my qualms), but I'd eat the mammoth too.
Although the animals that end up on meat eaters' tables were indeed vegetarian, it takes many thousands of portions of grain, water etc to produce one portion of meat - but just the one portion to produce the meal for the non-meat eater. Vegetarianism is just so good for the planet!
Somewhere in the attic is one of my Grandmother's fur coats complete with two heads, tails and paws hanging off the collar. Macabre!
Right! More coffee...
Quote by TheLovelyOne
Vegetarianism is just so good for the planet!
That expression so tickles me.
The Planet is perfectly fine whether we eat meat or veggies, it's the creatures on it that are fucked.
We've been here the equivalent of a gnat's fart duration as far as the Earth is concerned. I rather doubt it will have too many problems with us. It developed from a condition far worse than we could ever create and it got better.
I just thought I'd put some scientific perspective to the debate :twisted: