Old Steam room stuff

27 Sep 2005

Please, please, please can there be a sticky thread where everything remotely referring to Christmas goes? Other posts which mention it get locked?

No..No..NO..Iits my birthday on christmas day and I had a whole sac load of posts lined up!!! ...:kick:
I now go.. to drink from the Chalice of dissapointment... :violin:

27 Sep 2005

Please, please, please can there be a sticky thread where everything remotely referring to Christmas goes? Other posts which mention it get locked?

Think you got your christmas wish eager..... i got licked... ooh sorry locked .. :doh:

27 Sep 2005

:roll:
it's only 12 weeks away folks, fret not!! biggrin

27 Sep 2005

:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: ...Beauty...

27 Sep 2005

and for those of us who're paid monthly......thats 2 paydays away!!
(3 if we're very lucky and personnel get their arses into gear! rolleyes

)
ok ok, thats depressing......... can we talk about Halloween instead? worship

28 Sep 2005

Quote by EagerSlut
Please, please, please can there be a sticky thread where everything remotely referring to Christmas goes? Other posts which mention it get locked?
Otherwise the forum's soon gonna be going hysterical with one after another threads to do with some aspect of it. :huh: :huh:

At least it doesn't last as long as the football season. rolleyes

The thing is, once you start marginalising particular topics, when do you stop? Do you make every conceivable conversation a sticky and execute anyone who doesn't post in the 'correct' thread? And what if I want to talk about a televised subs v doms christmas save-the-rhino charity football match... does it go in the television stickie or the BDSM stickie or the christmas stickie or the rhinoceroses stickie or the charity stickie or the football stickie? lol

Oh, by the way...

Ho Ho Ho ;)

28 Sep 2005

The problem is - how do you make sure people use it! wink

lhk
Kat

28 Sep 2005

Morning all lol

So here it is Merry ..................... :karaoke: :karaoke: :giggle:

28 Sep 2005

Quote by wales_cple
Think you got your christmas wish eager..... i got licked... ooh sorry locked .. :doh:

Ooh oooh that was me, but I can do both for ya!!!!! biggrin

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
C'mere :twisted:

28 Sep 2005

Christmass time is here by golly,
Disapproval would be folly,
Dec the room with hunks of holly,
Fill the glass and don't say when.
Kill the Turkey, Ducks and Chickens,
Mix the Punch, drag out the dickens,
Even though the prospect sickens,
Brother here we go again.
:)
Fred
words by Tom Lehrer

28 Sep 2005

KICK CHRISTMAS INTO DECEMBER!!!!! GRRR
HAVEN'T EVEN HAD BONFIRE NIGHT YET FFS!!!

28 Sep 2005

Yeah could xmas fuck off until next xmas.

28 Sep 2005

Quote by Wishmaster
KICK CHRISTMAS INTO DECEMBER!!!!! GRRR
HAVEN'T EVEN HAD BONFIRE NIGHT YET FFS!!!

Oooh, hadn't thought of that, is there anyone having a bonfire party?

28 Sep 2005

This is written as a member, NOT as a Moderator.
The benefit of having a Steam Room is to allow anyone to â€˜let off steamâ€™ about something they feel strongly about. But it should be used constructively. In other words, if you are going to have a go about someone or something, at least have the ammunition to back yourself up. There is nothing worse than someone spouting off and then not being able to support their argument. As soon as you do that, you lose credibility.
You then get the old adage, â€œIâ€™m not naming names, but you know who you are and I will answer you in Thatâ€™s decent of them, donâ€™t you think? Except then they refuse to discuss it in PM! The person who has been accused then cannot defend themselves in public as a whispering campaign begins and all the friends of the original poster nod in agreement and say â€˜yes, what a terrible person they are, because my friend says so and Iâ€™m telling you this in confidenceâ€¦..â€™ knowing full well that that is how the whispering campaign begins!
For instance, how about this post â€“

â€œI seem to be noticing really nasty, picky and underhand posts being made on threads by 2 particular members. They hardly post anything positive and nearly always the post is a sly dig at someone. . It's been going on for a while and I don't think it's accidental or "posting style" but a concerted joint effort to piss people off. While staying inside the AUP's, trying to cause disruption and bad feeling. They also appear to be targeting certain people hoping to get them to rise to the bait....
If you two don't like SH, and all you have is bile to post, why don't you go somewhere you'll be happier?? Have you two got your heads together and come up with a "guerrilla warfare" strategy whereby you think posting such devious and vindictive comments, you'll somehow have the power to undermine SH? Because if thatâ€™s the case you are more deluded than you are vicious.
Bugger off somewhere else if you hate it so much. Stop being petty and annoying.
And if you think itâ€™s you, feel free to pm!â€

So here we have one member accusing two other members of what would appear to be quite a heinous crime â€“ or is it?
For instance, I am aware of the people concerned, but only when told their names. I certainly didnâ€™t recognise them from the description above. So, I thought, have I missed something? Well, if itâ€™s posted, it must be there, so I went to check. I went back through the previous posts of one of them to find these bilious posts and guess what? I couldnâ€™t find ANY that matched the description of this post! Surely they are there? Well, easiest way to find out is to ask the author. So I pmâ€™d the person and he pointed me to a couple of posts which he said fitted the description and said he would find the rest later for me. (I looked at the relevant posts, but couldnâ€™t see anything of the sort he was talking about.) He even said to me TWICE at a party that he would find them. Time went on and no reply, so I asked again. His reply was that he wasnâ€™t going to look for them, he said what he had said in the Steam Room and his words â€˜end My interpretation of that, rightly or wrongly, was that he couldnâ€™t back up his rant and that because he said it in the Steam Room he didnâ€™t need to justify it.
I donâ€™t agree with that. If you want to say something, have the information to back it up, to justify your rant, because that would make it acceptable.
Now donâ€™t forget, he also gave them the option to PM him, so he could have told them personally why he felt that way. So one of the aggrieved did just that, but this brave author refused to discuss it! If he could back it up, why didnâ€™t he do so?
I will leave you all to draw your own conclusions about the author of this post, but let me leave you with one more quote from this person,

â€œSeriously... it takes a real MAN to apologize...â€

Really?
Mal
Remember - written as a member, NOT a Moderator.

28 Sep 2005

Sheeeesh...
A bit deap and meaningfull that one Mal...
But I do agree 110%...
:thumbup:

28 Sep 2005

This does raise one question for me, Mal.
How many other people read that word as Guerr(rolling r's)iya since that bloody Angela Rippon said it like that?

Quote by Mal

â€œ"guerrilla warfare"â€

Just can't help it! At least it's only in my head that it gets pronounced that way...

28 Sep 2005

I agree completely Mal.
This is for general letting off steam, constructive suggestions and mini grumbles about things which we can back up with evidence.
It's not a place to come and have sly digs at someone you've taken a dislike to or have a personal disagreement with knowing they'll read it and feel a bit crap. It's mind fucking of the first order, it creates a horrible atmosphere online and IRL meetings (social or otherwise) and is so not in the spirit of the AUP. It's very much like bullying and it's not fair.
Be grown up and settle differences either by avoiding the person completely (no posts about or to them incl) or sorting it out through PM or in real life. It's nice to be nice.
kiss

Gem. x

28 Sep 2005

In reply to the comment by Mal.... I have just seen it, he is refering to my steam room rant, and I am trying to reply. Without getting myself into more fucking aggro...... so bear with me, while i type... and delete what is inappropriate. Because being threatened by a Mod to explain myself or else suffer a "pointed" thread... even though it is being dealt with by another Mod, and even though i haven't stepped outside of the AUP's, and even though i made no official complaint when it involved bolloxed up rumours started by one of these two about myself, yet felt it right to make a comment when i felt these two were trying to destroy something set up by someone else... doesn't make me wrong. I stand by what i said. I still can't be arsed to, as i said to you Mal, to go checking back over months worth of sly comments... I haven't the time nor the inclination to get embroiled into some kind of vengeance war over the banning of Libra-Love. But i guess i am going to have to now, aren't I ? now you have posted as "just a member" (which you didn't tell me you were when you were saying i had to tell you in pm.. you were acting as a Mod) .... but I am fucked if i am going to report to you.... I will report the links which made me think they were sniping to whichever Mod asks me... but not one who says I have to or else suffer their terrible wrath........
And to make matters worse.... Mal, if i get banned for saying that... I know of one person who told me to tell you to piss off as it was none of your business, and for their advice I am truly thankful . I don't know what kind of fucked up war i got myself involved in.. but it didn't start until i volunteered to chaperone people at the Leicester munch, ... since then.. it's gone to shit. I offer to do something I thought was worthwhile to make a successful Munch and get dragged into all sorts of weird internal politics i want nothing to do with, which may be well documented if you ask around other Mods, And before that... was i even on your radar???? Ask yourself that.....Mal.

28 Sep 2005

My My - tetchie, aren't we?

Quote by postie
In reply to the comment by Mal.... I have just seen it, he is refering to my steam room rant, and I am trying to reply. Without getting myself into more fucking aggro...... so bear with me, while i type... and delete what is inappropriate. Because being threatened by a Mod to explain myself or else suffer a "pointed" thread...
Talk is cheap, It's fine spouting off in the Steam room, but only when you can back it up. You obviously can't. Unless you come up with something to back this up, I will revive this topic quite pointedly in the Steam room myself. I won't name names, but at least I will have something to back it up.

I gave you ample time and requests to answer this in private, but since you started it in public, that's where it ends.
even though it is being dealt with by another Mod, What is?
and even though i haven't stepped outside of the AUP's, and even though i made no official complaint when it involved bolloxed up rumours started by one of these two about myself,And the relevence to this is?
yet felt it right to make a comment when i felt these two were trying to destroy something set up by someone else... doesn't make me wrong - but again that isn't what you wrote
I stand by what i said. I still can't be arsed to, as i said to you Mal, to go checking back over months worth of sly comments... Simply because there isn't any. I know, I DID bother to check!
I haven't the time nor the inclination to get embroiled into some kind of vengeance war over the banning of Libra-Love.
Libra has never been mentioned at any time in any part of this, so completely irrelevent
But i guess i am going to have to now, aren't I ? now you have posted as "just a member" (which you didn't tell me you were when you were saying i had to tell you in pm.. you were acting as a Mod)I didn't TELL you, I ASKED you
.... but I am fucked if i am going to report to you.... I will report the links which made me think they were sniping to whichever Mod asks me... but not one who says I have to or else suffer their terrible wrath........
And to make matters worse.... Mal, if i get banned for saying that... I know of one person who told me to tell you to piss off as it was none of your business, and for their advice I am truly thankful . I don't know what kind of fucked up war i got myself involved in.. but it didn't start until i volunteered to chaperone people at the Leicester munch, ...
totally irrelevent, never been mentioned before
since then.. it's gone to shit. I offer to do something I thought was worthwhile to make a successful Munch and get dragged into all sorts of weird internal politics i want nothing to do with, which may be well documented if you ask around other Mods, And before that... was i even on your radar???? Ask yourself that.....Mal.
Biggest problem you seem to have, Postie, is sticking to facts. Most of what you have now posted is nothing more than an irrelevent smokescreen. None of this has been mentioned before and certainly not mentioned on your original post - and THAT is what this all about. Nothing more and nothing less.
You don't get banned for voicing an opinion, but when you do voice it, have the courage of your convictions to back it up with facts, not hearsay and rumour. As soon as you go to print, you make it fact.
Mal

28 Sep 2005

Quote by postie
In reply to the comment by Mal.... I have just seen it, he is refering to my steam room rant, and I am trying to reply. Without getting myself into more fucking aggro...... so bear with me, while i type... and delete what is inappropriate. Because being threatened by a Mod to explain myself or else suffer a "pointed" thread... even though it is being dealt with by another Mod, and even though i haven't stepped outside of the AUP's, and even though i made no official complaint when it involved bolloxed up rumours started by one of these two about myself, yet felt it right to make a comment when i felt these two were trying to destroy something set up by someone else... doesn't make me wrong. I stand by what i said. I still can't be arsed to, as i said to you Mal, to go checking back over months worth of sly comments... I haven't the time nor the inclination to get embroiled into some kind of vengeance war over the banning of Libra-Love. But i guess i am going to have to now, aren't I ? now you have posted as "just a member" (which you didn't tell me you were when you were saying i had to tell you in pm.. you were acting as a Mod) .... but I am fucked if i am going to report to you.... I will report the links which made me think they were sniping to whichever Mod asks me... but not one who says I have to or else suffer their terrible wrath........
And to make matters worse.... Mal, if i get banned for saying that... I know of one person who told me to tell you to piss off as it was none of your business, and for their advice I am truly thankful . I don't know what kind of fucked up war i got myself involved in.. but it didn't start until i volunteered to chaperone people at the Leicester munch, ... since then.. it's gone to shit. I offer to do something I thought was worthwhile to make a successful Munch and get dragged into all sorts of weird internal politics i want nothing to do with, which may be well documented if you ask around other Mods, And before that... was i even on your radar???? Ask yourself that.....Mal.

You were not the only person to know what they were up to and at least one of the "ladies" in question knew she was being talked about and was particularly smug about it.
The comments they made may have not been blatant but they were deliberately worded to be subtle but inflamatory.
And at the time the people concerned were having a lot of fun at trying to stir a lot of shit.
Roger the Dragon
P.S. - A lot of good having a steam room that is cleared out every few days if you are going to dredge last months dirty washing up isn't it Mal?

28 Sep 2005

You know what Mal.... I still aint getting involved in this back room war... unless someone who hasn't got some score to settle asks me.
And just as a clarification for you Mal, it isn't a smoke screen... i felt aggreived, (mainly for the link i pointed you at.. but many others too) You may dress it up as you ASKING me, but sorry, when a Mod asks on this site, it normally means tell. before i spoke to the original Mod invloved in dealing with this (after i posted) I checked to make sure I wasn't breaking AUP's... by even mentioning their names to that Mod... if it wasn't so bloody obvious what these two were up to, a fucking numbskull like me wouldn't have spotted it !!!!!!!!! And...... if it wasn't so resonant, why is it still kicking off even now???????
Mal... you are abusing your position by even asking me those questions. Go talk to other Mods. FFS
And Mal... don't use me as a public pawn in whatever the hell is going on that i don't know about..... i wrote that piece many weeks ago...and i know it is still dragging on...in private, all i did, and for which you know i apologise for, is get the hell involved in someone elses issue.
Let me remind you of this..... if i hadn't have suggested the chaperoning idea.. I wouldn't be typing this now.

28 Sep 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
In reply to the comment by Mal.... I have just seen it, he is refering to my steam room rant, and I am trying to reply. Without getting myself into more fucking aggro...... so bear with me, while i type... and delete what is inappropriate. Because being threatened by a Mod to explain myself or else suffer a "pointed" thread... even though it is being dealt with by another Mod, and even though i haven't stepped outside of the AUP's, and even though i made no official complaint when it involved bolloxed up rumours started by one of these two about myself, yet felt it right to make a comment when i felt these two were trying to destroy something set up by someone else... doesn't make me wrong. I stand by what i said. I still can't be arsed to, as i said to you Mal, to go checking back over months worth of sly comments... I haven't the time nor the inclination to get embroiled into some kind of vengeance war over the banning of Libra-Love. But i guess i am going to have to now, aren't I ? now you have posted as "just a member" (which you didn't tell me you were when you were saying i had to tell you in pm.. you were acting as a Mod) .... but I am fucked if i am going to report to you.... I will report the links which made me think they were sniping to whichever Mod asks me... but not one who says I have to or else suffer their terrible wrath........
And to make matters worse.... Mal, if i get banned for saying that... I know of one person who told me to tell you to piss off as it was none of your business, and for their advice I am truly thankful . I don't know what kind of fucked up war i got myself involved in.. but it didn't start until i volunteered to chaperone people at the Leicester munch, ... since then.. it's gone to shit. I offer to do something I thought was worthwhile to make a successful Munch and get dragged into all sorts of weird internal politics i want nothing to do with, which may be well documented if you ask around other Mods, And before that... was i even on your radar???? Ask yourself that.....Mal.

You were not the only person to know what they were up to and at least one of the "ladies" in question knew she was being talked about and was particularly smug about it.
The comments they made may have not been blatant but they were deliberately worded to be subtle but inflamatory.
And at the time the people concerned were having a lot of fun at trying to stir a lot of shit.
Roger the Dragon
P.S. - A lot of good having a steam room that is cleared out every few days if you are going to dredge last months dirty washing up isn't it Mal?
Roger is a smart man who has seen through clear glasses..
Take a peek at the Chams thread.... all is clear ........ I back Postie on this one .. we don't wan't petty big fish / little pond politics here.. SH is about sex & swinging...
........Anything else is just small people trying to be big people wearing oversized clothes.

28 Sep 2005

Right, my turn.
I have read a lot about people getting pissed off with this, and pissed off with that. Fine, thatâ€™s everyoneâ€™s prerogative, now Iâ€™m going to exercise mine:
You know what really pisses me off? The effect that all this fucking mud slinging is having on the rest of the users of this site.
Now living at the bottom end of the arsehole of the universe I have absolutely no fucking idea whats been going on, and guess what? I donâ€™t want to know. What I do know is that a few months ago this site was fun, informative, outrageous in its postings, and that a huge amount of people were having a bloody good laugh on here.
Now I knew something was afoot, because some suddenly the fun has gone, everything has become suddenly serious and sedate??? And some of the funniest and friendly people on the site suddenly either stopped posting, posted an awful lot less, or when they did post, did so in a very guarded and PC way.
What the Fuck is that all about? This is a sex site, a swinging site, its about outrageous things, if you want to talk to nuns and priests fuck off and do it somewhere else ffs.
Can we please bury whatever is going on, or at least keep it off of here, and can we please have our old site back, remember the one? Where we all got on, had fun, helped each other out â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ you know the one I mean.
With best intentions
Pete & Caron (AKA Katie & John)

28 Sep 2005

â€œI seem to be noticing really nasty, picky and underhand posts being made on threads by 2 particular members. They hardly post anything positive and nearly always the post is a sly dig at someone. . It's been going on for a while and I don't think it's accidental or "posting style" but a concerted joint effort to piss people off. While staying inside the AUP's, trying to cause disruption and bad feeling. They also appear to be targeting certain people hoping to get them to rise to the bait....
If you two don't like SH, and all you have is bile to post, why don't you go somewhere you'll be happier?? Have you two got your heads together and come up with a "guerrilla warfare" strategy whereby you think posting such devious and vindictive comments, you'll somehow have the power to undermine SH? Because if thatâ€™s the case you are more deluded than you are vicious.
Bugger off somewhere else if you hate it so much. Stop being petty and annoying.
And if you think itâ€™s you, feel free to pm!â€

Now, I'm no Poirot, but even I had a fair idea as to who and what this was aimed at!
It didnt take long nor did I have to look far!

28 Sep 2005

Quote by Wishmaster
Take a peek at the Chams thread.... all is clear ........ I back Postie on this one .. we don't wan't petty big fish / little pond politics here.. SH is about sex & swinging...
........Anything else is just small people trying to be big people wearing oversized clothes.

'We' being whom? You or the people in charge?
Who says all people going to Chams aren't after sex? Is there a knitting circle there we are unaware of?
Why do you have to make the Chams thread something that resembles a munch with 'only people you like' allowed on the list? Is it to make you feel you have more friends? Or less?
If its 'all about sex and swinging' why include some and not others on the list? Who's being petty now wishmaster? Do the people you don't like have less rights to have their names mentioned?

28 Sep 2005

I just thought I'd say I am having some WEAK thoughts and feelings. Which suits me fione, and I have no intention arguing about it.

28 Sep 2005

Quote by duncanlondon
I just thought I'd say I am having some WEAK thoughts and feelings. Which suits me fione, and I have no intention arguing about it.

Get a spine, Duncan!
I've had one sitting in a box for years if you want it, has a yellow stripe straight down the centre though!

28 Sep 2005

Quote by SunBunny

Take a peek at the Chams thread.... all is clear ........ I back Postie on this one .. we don't wan't petty big fish / little pond politics here.. SH is about sex & swinging...
........Anything else is just small people trying to be big people wearing oversized clothes.

'We' being whom? You or the people in charge?
Who says all people going to Chams aren't after sex? Is there a knitting circle there we are unaware of?
Why do you have to make the Chams thread something that resembles a munch with 'only people you like' allowed on the list? Is it to make you feel you have more friends? Or less?
If its 'all about sex and swinging' why include some and not others on the list? Who's being petty now wishmaster? Do the people you don't like have less rights to have their names mentioned?
Are you following me........ again!!!...... geez...

28 Sep 2005

Quote by Pete_sw
Right, my turn.
I have read a lot about people getting pissed off with this, and pissed off with that. Fine, thatâ€™s everyoneâ€™s prerogative, now Iâ€™m going to exercise mine:
You know what really pisses me off? The effect that all this fucking mud slinging is having on the rest of the users of this site.
Now living at the bottom end of the arsehole of the universe I have absolutely no fucking idea whats been going on, and guess what? I donâ€™t want to know. What I do know is that a few months ago this site was fun, informative, outrageous in its postings, and that a huge amount of people were having a bloody good laugh on here.
Now I knew something was afoot, because some suddenly the fun has gone, everything has become suddenly serious and sedate??? And some of the funniest and friendly people on the site suddenly either stopped posting, posted an awful lot less, or when they did post, did so in a very guarded and PC way.
What the Fuck is that all about? This is a sex site, a swinging site, its about outrageous things, if you want to talk to nuns and priests fuck off and do it somewhere else ffs.
Can we please bury whatever is going on, or at least keep it off of here, and can we please have our old site back, remember the one? Where we all got on, had fun, helped each other out â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ you know the one I mean.
With best intentions
Pete & Caron (AKA Katie & John)

Absolutely top drawer post Pete............... you are bang on!
I couldn't have put it more eloquently myself.

28 Sep 2005

Quote by Wishmaster
Are you following me........ again!!!.

Not at all. I just got in and read the whole thread.
Yours stuck out more than others, is all.