Old Steam Room Stuff

10 Dec 2005

Quote by KitKat
I know she was not in full possession of the facts . What I also know is that the only person who could have put her in full possession of the facts was Wishmaster. He chose not to.
Kat

Thank you for clarifying. Could the mods not have given her full facts, or enquired if she was aware of them once it became known that he was to attend?
They certainly seem to be in full awareness, so Wishmaster is not the only one who could have told her. The mods could have done so too.
T-J

10 Dec 2005

Quote by Steve_Mids
Well if you dont like any options offered to you calista then either suggest one that would work better or go with the way things are done now...
As I said some have different chat/forum names which could prove tricky but there are ways round that as well...

I've never pretended to have the answers .. just questions. I've asked my questions and already things are being discussed.
We're having unified logins for all three areas, you've suggested mods looking over munch/social lists (which is fine but if it's your mate whose banned and they ask you to keep their name off the list fucks that idea), TnH has suggested using the profile section.
Don't get angry with me for feeling insecure or unsafe. It's only through discussion that people have their fears resolved.
C

10 Dec 2005

Quote by Calista
Well if you dont like any options offered to you calista then either suggest one that would work better or go with the way things are done now...
As I said some have different chat/forum names which could prove tricky but there are ways round that as well...

:kiss:
If my mate was banned and his name was on a munch list then the upshot of it is.......They wouldnt be going to the munch......
I dont show favouritism to ANYONE regardless...
If they have broken the rules sufficiently to get banned then thats their tough shit..

10 Dec 2005

boy oh boy,,,,, it is times like this that do break my heart... because i love the site and to see this infighting between people i like hurts...
glad that the decision has been made over kaz's social.... I know the same thing is going to come up with regards to marcuso's xmas bash since "banned" members are going to be at that one... bearing in mind he won't read this this they get back from the skegness weekend...what the hell is he going to make of this????????
again, i would ask that wouldn't it make sense to draw a line in the sand for all socials that have already been arranged... and say "from this day on" therfore noone can say they haven't been warned......
Also I know that there was talk of a "banned persons" list being made available for munch organisors... wouldn't it now be a suggestion to now make this kind of list public? i am not suggesting name and shame,don't put the reason as to why they are banned... just the fact they are banned is enough information.....
since regulars may not know that other regualrs have been banned......for example i got a pm from a mod before my munch asking "have i sent xxxxxxx information with regard to venue" and that was the 1st time i know they were banned......
I am not saying that we need to know the in and outs of everything, but just to give us enough information so that we can make informed decisions as to whether we want to go to an event or not........
sean xxxxxx

10 Dec 2005

Still holding out for banned rank bar option... has advantage that munch and social organisers simply look through the 'can I go' thread. Anyone who is banned after a social started to be organised would be easy to spot.

10 Dec 2005

Quote by Ice Pie
Why is Kaz, who last week was sexually assaulted, allowing banned members, one of whom is banned for sexual assault, access to every female who frequents her party? Unless she is planning a special badge for him and lettng everyone know who he is and what he is banned for.

Oh brilliant! rolleyes

Did anyone warn her of that before threatening to ban her? Wouldn't warning her of the danger have been the decent thing for someone who was concerned about safety to do instead of threatening her? Did YOU warn her since you seem to have all the information? NO, you just came charging in with a stupid post as good as accusing her of deliberately inviting someone she knows to be dangerous. After what happened at Wigan, you cannot possibly believe she would do that in a million years!
So mister I know everything, why the hell didn't you warn her? mad

ICE PIE - FOR YOUR INFORMATION :
my part of a PM to kazswallows, from SundayNovember 6th.
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Quote by postie ages ago
THOUGH... if you want me to tell that fuckwit he isn't welcome I'd very gladly do it for you.... can't promise I would do it diplomatically though... But it 'd be a pleasure... ( and I have my reason I don't like him, not the rumour stuff or the thing that got him banned)
my name edited outl xxx

So. Yes, Kaz was aware. And there's other stuff too that would be indiscreet to put on here without the express permission of Kaz, but I will if she says it's ok. I didn't come charging in, i have sat and read this all day and thought about it. And I have spoke to Kaz about the ongoing situation,
You know me better than that Ice.
/i know everything

10 Dec 2005

did I miss something :shock:

10 Dec 2005

Quote by markz
did I miss something :shock:

I did

Caught up with some of it through reading the Steam Room. Most of it in here somewhere...

11 Dec 2005

boy oh boy,,,,, it is times like this that do break my heart... because i love the site and to see this infighting between people i like hurts...
glad that the decision has been made over kaz's social.... I know the same thing is going to come up with regards to marcuso's xmas bash since "banned" members are going to be at that one...
again, i would ask that wouldn't it make sense to draw a line in the sand for all socials that have already been arranged... and say "from this day on" therfore noone can say they haven't been warned......
Also I know that there was talk of a "banned persons" list being made available for munch organisors... wouldn't it now be a suggestion to now make this kind of list public? i am not suggesting name and shame,don't put the reason as to why they are banned... just the fact they are banned is enough information.....
since regulars may not know that other regualrs have been banned..........
I am not saying that we need to know the in and outs of everything, but just to give us enough information so that we can make informed decisions as to whether we want to go to an event or not........
-------- --------- -------- ---------- ----------
having read all the post here im grateful to fabio for this post for in mho a well balanced assesment of the situation ,as only through this i have learned that i will be attending a meet that "banned persons" will be attending Whilst i as a single male have no problem with this i can understand the concerns of couples/single females Whist i do not profess to know the answers, guidelines must be drawn up and posted in plain english in an attempt to heal the rifts that can only pull this site and what it stands for steadily down

11 Dec 2005

Quote by KitKat
Wishmaster is not allowed to post on this site. In any definition of reasonable behaviour, this should amount to no more than a minor ripple on the pond of life.
Yet for him - MAJOR personal Tsunami!
Consider the kind of mindset it takes for a minor ripple to become a major Tsunami.
Do you still need to ask the question "Why is he singled out?"
Because he chooses to be.

I have kept quiet for now but read this thread with interest, and have decided to reveal my identity just so that I can contribute to one of the most entertaining threads of the month.....
I no longer swing - I only took a new name to be able to read the forum as a member, because I do enjoy the banter and the politics and the signatures and back-stabbing - not and I repeat notto cause trouble.
Now I can't resist owning up that I am Sunbunny - a very happy sunbunny too - with a life, and friends, and a big love in my life and a first novel over the halfway stage - I just read the forum as entertainment, as I work from home and used to be addicted to the forum, so find it hard not to have a read and a giggle .
BUT
Anyone who doubts the Mods' behaviour should realise that Wishmaster is averysad individual who does not understand the word honest or decent or respectful or selfless.
For the unfortunate time that i was seeing him, he spent virtually his entire waking hours talking complete bollocks (with lots of lies thrown in) in the chatroom and playing his exes off against each other until in the end I trusted no one and realised I had just been a pawn in his pathetic little games to get the woman who dumped him back. the whole experience both put me off swinging for life and made me get banned.
He cannot cope with rejection - by a woman or by the mods - he has to be top dog because he is a manipulative control freak, and he frequently wrote lies on the forum because they would (supposedly) make him look like more of a hardened swinger than he actually was.
He aspires to being a mod - because of his control freak nature. but that is the extent of his ambition. He has no purpose in his sad little life other than manipulating you all and treating women like pieces of dirt. He thinks he is such a bigshot swinger - and yet he could not even perform in swinging situations that he organised for us, and in other cases he forced me against my will to do things I was not happy doing, because it made him look good. He has NO respect for women. None at all. it is ALL about him.
He lies, cheats, thinks he has the right to demand that his women go on the pill before he continues to shag them ....claiming that condoms make him go soft.....which of course is not a great attitude in the world of swinging... especially when he is shagging others behind their back. He really is a danger - in that sense alone.
I was very pleased to read this thread about him, despite the free advertisement for the tosspot that he is - it shows me that I was not going mad and that others are starting to see what a nasty piece of work he is.
I was banned because I wouldn't let him get away with his treatment of me and it was worth getting banned just to get my message across - and show him exactly what I thought of him. It also pleases me to see that he has fallen out with postie. It makes me very happy.
In the end he will have no friends left at all.
Before I go (probably won't get back in again after this) - all those people who dont understand what is going on should know that the 'other' site, that is trying (very unsuccessfully) to mimic SH.
A lot of two-faced swingers who are perhaps scared they might 'miss out on something' are posting on this other forum and including signatures like 'My ad is ****** on SH....'
Which I find hilarious.
The users of this other site are using SH to promote their sweaty little bodies - and yet claim their 'new' site is better....yeah, right, course it is.
As I said - I didnt re register to cause trouble, and now I probably have, but I really don't care. It's about time something like this happened to expose the bastard . I am not one for bearing grudges usually. i am easy-going and forgiving, but this guy really is a nasty piece of work that you really dont need in your close, trusting and largely respectful community.
And before anyone says anything - I am not some saddo who cannot wrench themselves away from SH - as I said, I no longer swing, or meet, or even chat on msn or in pm - i just like to read the forum, because most of the time it is the most entertaining and funny thing on the net, and you guys generally put a smile on my face during a working day.
To anyone who knows me, hello....and probably goodbye again....
To people who have no idea why he is being singled out - the mods know what they are doing, trust me....
And to Pissmaster - YOU ARE SUCH A WANKER. I HOPE YOU LOSE ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND CATCH SOMETHING VERY NASTY.
bye all. have a nice day....x

11 Dec 2005

Quote by BerryBelinda
I have kept quiet for now but read this thread with interest, and have decided to reveal my identity just so that I can contribute to one of the most entertaining threads of the month.....
I no longer swing - I only took a new name to be able to read the forum as a member, because I do enjoy the banter and the politics and the signatures and back-stabbing - not and I repeat not to cause trouble.
Now I can't resist owning up that I am Sunbunny - a very happy sunbunny too - with a life, and friends, and a big love in my life and a first novel over the halfway stage - I just read the forum as entertainment, as I work from home and used to be addicted to the forum, so find it hard not to have a read and a giggle .
BUT
Anyone who doubts the Mods' behaviour should realise that Wishmaster is a very sad individual who does not understand the word honest or decent or respectful or selfless.
For the unfortunate time that i was seeing him, he spent virtually his entire waking hours talking complete bollocks (with lots of lies thrown in) in the chatroom and playing his exes off against each other until in the end I trusted no one and realised I had just been a pawn in his pathetic little games to get the woman who dumped him back. the whole experience both put me off swinging for life and made me get banned.
He cannot cope with rejection - by a woman or by the mods - he has to be top dog because he is a manipulative control freak, and he frequently wrote lies on the forum because they would (supposedly) make him look like more of a hardened swinger than he actually was.
He aspires to being a mod - because of his control freak nature. but that is the extent of his ambition. He has no purpose in his sad little life other than manipulating you all and treating women like pieces of dirt. He thinks he is such a bigshot swinger - and yet he could not even perform in swinging situations that he organised for us, and in other cases he forced me against my will to do things I was not happy doing, because it made him look good. He has NO respect for women. None at all. it is ALL about him.
He lies, cheats, thinks he has the right to demand that his women go on the pill before he continues to shag them ....claiming that condoms make him go soft.....which of course is not a great attitude in the world of swinging... especially when he is shagging others behind their back. He really is a danger - in that sense alone.
I was very pleased to read this thread about him, despite the free advertisement for the tosspot that he is - it shows me that I was not going mad and that others are starting to see what a nasty piece of work he is.
I was banned because I wouldn't let him get away with his treatment of me and it was worth getting banned just to get my message across - and show him exactly what I thought of him. It also pleases me to see that he has fallen out with postie. It makes me very happy.
In the end he will have no friends left at all.
Before I go (probably won't get back in again after this) - all those people who dont understand what is going on should know that the 'other' site, that is trying (very unsuccessfully) to mimic SH.
A lot of two-faced swingers who are perhaps scared they might 'miss out on something' are posting on this other forum and including signatures like 'My ad is ****** on SH....'
Which I find hilarious.
The users of this other site are using SH to promote their sweaty little bodies - and yet claim their 'new' site is better....yeah, right, course it is.
As I said - I didnt re register to cause trouble, and now I probably have, but I really don't care. It's about time something like this happened to expose the bastard . I am not one for bearing grudges usually. i am easy-going and forgiving, but this guy really is a nasty piece of work that you really dont need in your close, trusting and largely respectful community.
And before anyone says anything - I am not some saddo who cannot wrench themselves away from SH - as I said, I no longer swing, or meet, or even chat on msn or in pm - i just like to read the forum, because most of the time it is the most entertaining and funny thing on the net, and you guys generally put a smile on my face during a working day.
To anyone who knows me, hello....and probably goodbye again....
To people who have no idea why he is being singled out - the mods know what they are doing, trust me....
And to Pissmaster - YOU ARE SUCH A WANKER. I HOPE YOU LOSE ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND CATCH SOMETHING VERY NASTY.
bye all. have a nice day....x

Hmmmmmmmmmmm......... previously banned member re-joining to post personal abuse against someone.................. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............... what should I do?????????
Oh bollocks, pissing myself too much here to even reach for my mod buttons - sorry all
Hehehehehehehehehehehe lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

11 Dec 2005

Blue = you lovely person you kiss

Glad you can not find your delete (or maybe your "delight" button.
Please let the post stand ==== Pretty Please.
phredd :love:

11 Dec 2005

Some points:
1) I'm personally grateful to the work the mods put into this site, and sympathise with the difficult decisions they have to take.
2) People in "authority" can't just say "trust me" however well intentioned they may be. Lack of trust is one of the things that comes with the territory. That's another thing we should be grateful to the moderators for - they've put themselves in a position where people will always mistrust their motives on controversial issues, and they've done it to keep this site running.
3) Everyone is biased towards their friends, unless they're an emotionless robot. Personally I'd rather have humans managing this site, especially those who clearly put a great deal of effort into trying to be as unbiased as possible.
4) There's no way the mods or anyone else can stop a banned member turning up at any sort of event. They could fake a new id from a completely different location, or they could secretly be invited by someone else. However, the situation where the mods do know for a fact (by whatever method) that a banned member will be there is completely different - if they know, and choose to do nothing, they could be said by some people to be partly to blame for anything that happens.
5) Everyone makes mistakes...
6) Moderators can't expect to make events totally safe however hard they work. It has to be clear to all attendees that they are responsible for their own personal safety, and what the risks are.
Having heard all the discussions, I think it is fair for the mods to say that they reserve the right to prevent advertising of an even on this board where they know a dangerous person may be present.
But personally I'd prefer to see the offending advert removed, rather than a person being banned. Banning should be for situations where an organiser has deliberately misled a mod, not because of who their friends are.
However, see (5) above, which also applies to me!

11 Dec 2005

Quote by Fred aka Medic 1
Blue = you lovely person you
Glad you can not find your delete (or maybe your "delight" button.
Please let the post stand ==== Pretty Please.
phredd :love:

The way I look at it is this....
Wankmaster is posting utter shit about SH and specific site members on another site right now........... I kinda feel he deserves some back.......... yeah, it may be naughty to throw the rule book out of the window, but hey, live fast, die young and all that lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I suppose a more responsible mod might come along and do the "decent" thing later, but just for now, let's all laugh at belinda's post.... hey ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

11 Dec 2005

Thanks Blue.
And while I'm still here....I didn't re-register to post abuse. As you can see I registered a little while ago, and had intended to keep my nose well and truly keen. Of course I've failed miserably.....
Plus...for the record... I think you'll find that Dawnie's Shower Pics came about from something I said to Dambuster in another thread...so without me you may never have experienced the delight that is that thread. wink

11 Dec 2005

Quote by bluexxx
I suppose a more responsible mod might come along and do the "decent" thing later, but just for now, let's all laugh at belinda's post.... hey ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

There have to be some benefits for those of us who are sad gits enough to be on at this time on Sunday morning. smile

It is rather well written too. Can't we make an exception on the basis of artistic merit?

11 Dec 2005

Quote by BerryBelinda
Plus...for the record... I think you'll find that Dawnie's Shower Pics came about from something I said to Dambuster in another thread...so without me you may never have experienced the delight that is that thread.

So it's your fault I got my camera wet :P

11 Dec 2005

Quote by Mark Horne
It is rather well written too. Can't we make an exception on the basis of artistic merit?

Pretty please?
If I promise to behave, and above all, entertain?

11 Dec 2005

Quote by BerryBelinda
I was banned because I wouldn't let him get away with his treatment of me and it was worth getting banned just to get my message across - and show him exactly what I thought of him. It also pleases me to see that he has fallen out with postie. It makes me very happy.

:shock:

( what a start to the day!)

11 Dec 2005

The AUP says you can't indulge in "Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards other people on here."
Since ex members are not "on here", I suppose that technically they can be slagged off with wild abandon :!:

11 Dec 2005

Quote by Mister_Discreet
The AUP says you can't indulge in "Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards other people on here."
Since ex members are not "on here", I suppose that technically they can be slagged off with wild abandon :!:

Actually you need to read the small print. :lol2:
The AUP says you can't indulge in "Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards other people on here. Unless it is M2PU or Happy Cats"

11 Dec 2005

Oh blue in the words of Dick Emmery
oh you are awful but i like you

11 Dec 2005

Quote by Mister_Discreet
The AUP says you can't indulge in "Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards other people on here."
Since ex members are not "on here", I suppose that technically they can be slagged off with wild abandon :!:

Ah but Ex members are here, First Libra+Love now Sun Bunny, I'm beginning to think these bans are an empty threat to the seriously warped, they still find a way! Wishmaster will be along in a minute to reveal he is really "Pantomine Dame" or something confused

:? :?

11 Dec 2005

Quote by Velvet Lips
........Wishmaster will be along in a minute to reveal he is really "Pantomine Dame" or something :? :?

He's behind you!!!! :giggle:

11 Dec 2005

Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
........Wishmaster will be along in a minute to reveal he is really "Pantomine Dame" or something :? :?

He's behind you!!!! :giggle:
Nah = thats not a Dame by any name lol

phredd

11 Dec 2005

Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
........Wishmaster will be along in a minute to reveal he is really "Pantomine Dame" or something :? :?

He's behind you!!!! :giggle:
Oh!!!!! My favourite position !!! lol

:lol: :lol: :lol:

11 Dec 2005

Just thought I'd lighten the mood a little.
Which brings me nicely on to a second hijack.
Maybe we should have a Xmas SH pantomine thread.:giggle:

11 Dec 2005

Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
He's behind you!!!!

Oh No He's Not! :-)

11 Dec 2005

Quote by bluexxx
I suppose a more responsible mod might come along and do the "decent" thing later, but just for now, let's all laugh at belinda's post.... hey ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not moving it either... not yet at least. I'm having too much fun for the first time in three days.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

11 Dec 2005

Quote by bluexxx
Wankmaster

:giggle: :giggle: :giggle: