Just wondering if it would be allowed to post a thread on here that was totally out of limits for the OPs.
For example we have a GFZ and occasionaly a BFZ, what about an OPFZ for folks. It would only be for those that were not easily offended or for those that were prepared to be offended. Things could get personal, so long as they were not illegal, i.e. no racists, sexists, etc. (although even I can see a problem arising here)
Maybe as a concession we could agree the OPS could lock it now and then (without comment) and then it could start up again. Probabaly a silly idea, but god sometimes I would love this site to have a thread that just let us all loose on each other. If you didn't like it then just don't get involved. It's a bit like those folk that write into TV moaning about sex and violence. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT WATCH. same principle would apply here.
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OPFZ - is it allowed?
Sounds tempting - tempting fate!
I see where you're coming from, but I think it would do more harm than good, tbh. Things are only just starting to calm down after recent upsets and misunderstandings. i don't think we need to encourage more of the same.
It's all very well suggesting that if people don't like it, then they shouldn't read it - but how do they know, if they don't look?
I say no. Sorry.
I see where you're coming from, but I think it would do more harm than good, tbh. Things are only just starting to calm down after recent upsets and misunderstandings. i don't think we need to encourage more of the same.
It's all very well suggesting that if people don't like it, then they shouldn't read it - but how do they know, if they don't look?
I say no. Sorry.
I know I'm only a noob to this site, but for what it's worth, a big no.
On a site I frequent where the members know each others' real names and locations, don't (usually) sleep with each other, and often discussed serious issues they tried this approach. A year later they're still recovering from the damage incurred :shock:
On a site I frequent where the members know each others' real names and locations, don't (usually) sleep with each other, and often discussed serious issues they tried this approach. A year later they're still recovering from the damage incurred :shock:
totally respect the responses so far. Can I ask, if you are against the idea why is it not possible for u to post responses saying 'go for it but not for me!'.
If you're not into it then you don't have to visit the thread. I'm not quite sure why you would object to other people having their say?
If you're not into it then you don't have to visit the thread. I'm not quite sure why you would object to other people having their say?
I wouldn't object to people having their say at all, and I wouldn't/don't shy away from posting to controversial threads, from what I've seen thus far neither does Judy.
It's an unmoderated environment that worries me. It's too easy for simmering rivalries to develop as they have recently wrt 'cliques'.
If that were allowed to persist without check then the level of anger and resentment that could potentially develop would be unlikely to remain only in the 'danger zone'.
Once this had spilled into other threads, as it surely would, be that in subtle references or outright abuse, private messages and email the problems that could ensue, and the amount of time spent by mods and admin trying to defuse them, could bring the forum to its knees.
It's an unmoderated environment that worries me. It's too easy for simmering rivalries to develop as they have recently wrt 'cliques'.
If that were allowed to persist without check then the level of anger and resentment that could potentially develop would be unlikely to remain only in the 'danger zone'.
Once this had spilled into other threads, as it surely would, be that in subtle references or outright abuse, private messages and email the problems that could ensue, and the amount of time spent by mods and admin trying to defuse them, could bring the forum to its knees.
Sex God
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Common sense will hopefully prevail here.
Judy
As usual, I find myself having to agree with Judy
Well, to add my twopennorth, what's the point?
The ops on this site are pretty darn good (no I'm not sucking up just giving my opinion). People get on here, and have their say, about anything and everything, and unless it becomes very nasty then the ops don't interfere, and what you're saying is that people should be allowed to have their say without interference. That already happens.
The ops are here for a reason, and I say that opening an opfz is just asking for trouble. If there is something you would like to say which would be considered really offensive, or some mud that you would like to sling, then I for one prefer not to be part of it. I have enough hassle in everyday life without finding it in abundance here.
I think what I mean to say is that I'm voting no.
jules
The ops on this site are pretty darn good (no I'm not sucking up just giving my opinion). People get on here, and have their say, about anything and everything, and unless it becomes very nasty then the ops don't interfere, and what you're saying is that people should be allowed to have their say without interference. That already happens.
The ops are here for a reason, and I say that opening an opfz is just asking for trouble. If there is something you would like to say which would be considered really offensive, or some mud that you would like to sling, then I for one prefer not to be part of it. I have enough hassle in everyday life without finding it in abundance here.
I think what I mean to say is that I'm voting no.
jules
Mod
I really can't see the point in this whatsoever. Who would voluntarily accept to be slagged off and abused? How would that bring any benefit to the Site? If you dislike people from here so much you want to slag them off, what are you doing here in the first place? One of the major benefits of this Site is the ability of one and all to come and relax, talk with friends, without fear of attack or prejudice, regardless if they are fat, thin, tall, short, bald, hairy or whatever. You can't have a Site where you welcome people but then say go in there if you want to see who is slagging you off.
That's bollocks. When people complain about programmes on the tv, it's not programmes about them personally they are complaining about, but the general content.
As you've already said, 'if you don't like it, don't get involved' - true on that point. In that, if you don't like a well moderated and SAFE website, you don't have to stay. We will not be dragged down to a level you are suggesting.
Mal
If you didn't like it then just don't get involved. It's a bit like those folk that write into TV moaning about sex and violence. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT WATCH. same principle would apply here.
That's bollocks. When people complain about programmes on the tv, it's not programmes about them personally they are complaining about, but the general content.
As you've already said, 'if you don't like it, don't get involved' - true on that point. In that, if you don't like a well moderated and SAFE website, you don't have to stay. We will not be dragged down to a level you are suggesting.
Mal
Sex God
No fucking way, I'm not being disallowed from threads just cos I'm a mod. You couldn't stop us looking anyway could you 
, or we could just post under other usernames and flame you :haha: . Get real 
.
Us mods do not always answer threads just to police them you know, we are people too and we use the site in every way you do.... for FUN! If you don't like mods reading your threads, go and post on an unmoderated forum, just go and join the throngs of paedophiles, underage pisstakers, and rapists who are also waiting to post on those forums.
It will NEVER happen here.
It COULD NEVER happen here.
This site is about equality for all. Even mods.
Slag the mods off in private and have a good day while you do it :mrgreen: .
I think I speak for all?
FFS :roll:
, or we could just post under other usernames and flame you :haha: . Get real . Us mods do not always answer threads just to police them you know, we are people too and we use the site in every way you do.... for FUN! If you don't like mods reading your threads, go and post on an unmoderated forum, just go and join the throngs of paedophiles, underage pisstakers, and rapists who are also waiting to post on those forums.
It will NEVER happen here.
It COULD NEVER happen here.
This site is about equality for all. Even mods.
Slag the mods off in private and have a good day while you do it :mrgreen: .
I think I speak for all?
FFS :roll:
Sex God
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For example we have a GFZ and occasionaly a BFZ, what about an OPFZ for folks.
And how often is the GFZ free of Girls or the BFZ free of Boys?? :shock:
:? :?Exactly. I think Scotscpl are missing the point of the *FZs. They're more like social clubs now, where we can post loads of tripe and not feel like we're spamming up the site. They're there as a way to unwind and have fun at the weekend. Not as an area that is free of certain people (even though the name suggests it).
Sorry scotscpl, but I vote no.
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what about an OPFZ for folks. It would only be for those that were not easily offended or for those that were prepared to be offended. Things could get personal, so long as they were not illegal, i.e. no racists, sexists, etc. (although even I can see a problem arising here)
Dirty David's site did this several years ago with the nutters room in the forums, after numerous flame wars became hard to police. Any flaming type post anywhere else was deleted as soon as it was seen, but anything could be posted in the nutters room.
The nutters room became the private plaything of about 4 people including all their alter-egos. It was incredibly abusive but didn't seem to impact on the rest of the forums.
It doesn't seem neccessary here because there is very little abuse on this site and any that is is dealt with promptly. Why introduce discord where it doesn't exist?
Sexlightened
To be fair I think the mods are probably the dirtiest, rudest, nastiest, most insulting, and scariest people on the site.... :P
Why on earth would you want to stop them posting? They make the best reading.... :twisted: :twisted:
Runs off before he gets his bottom smacked......
Why on earth would you want to stop them posting? They make the best reading.... :twisted: :twisted:
Runs off before he gets his bottom smacked......
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, . . . . . where we can post loads of tripe and not feel like we're spamming up the site.
Sorry scotscpl, but I vote no.
Aaah. That's where I should be then ???
Having recovered from a slight disagreement
and tete a tete (?) with a mod 
ops: on the site, I have to agree with just about everything in the replies that say "No, thank you"I don't know how long this site has been up and about, nor do know how long it will continue. I hope or a very long time, but I am convinced that the success of the site is in no small part due to the attitudes and actions of 'the powers that be' To ask for them to be banned from any area of the site just sounds like asking for trouble.
Judy - If it's a holiday your off on, have a great time. If it's not - have a great time.
From another thread:
Are you trying to start an anarchic trend??
I think you've had your answer. This site is moderated, we like it that way.
Steve
Quote by ScotsCpl
It's unrealistic to expect everyone to read the rules before entering the chatroom........................ No one is forcing anyone to be an op. Get off the soap box and give some of the new comers a break.
And yes I understand that without the OPs chaos may reign. But some of the best times I have had in the chatroom are when OPs are not present.
Are you trying to start an anarchic trend??
I think you've had your answer. This site is moderated, we like it that way.
Steve
Just to add my views to this subject is quite a liberated feeling. Wether you agree or disagree is cool, i really don't mind.
The point as I see it, is that "respect" for others is what makes this site tick along soooooooooo very beautifully. To pick folk up when they are feeling a bit shitty is done not through the feeling of having to, or expected, but because of a mutual respect of the individual. This world we live in, is hard enough without bringing cyber hardship into the scenario.
I couldn't care less if you had a thread which wasn't moderated. I wouldn't visit it, take part in it, or hold any argument with it. What i would/could and do object to, is the possiblitly of people, who i shall call friends, being at the brunt of someone else's jokes, opinions or whatever other hurtful insults might be branded about.
By having a thread like this, disharmony and hurt are always going to follow at the back of it. The other small point is, who has the right to say that the Mods should be singled out as being not allowed into a thread ! A mod, is a person who takes time to monitor a site and the content so as not to cause offense to another. I haven't to date, felt that anything that has been said by the mods, has been unfair, or that an individual has been unfairly treated.
Anyway, i'm blethering crap now, which isn't new, so long as no one finds what i say offensive.
Lots of love, hugs and kisses
Little
XXX
The point as I see it, is that "respect" for others is what makes this site tick along soooooooooo very beautifully. To pick folk up when they are feeling a bit shitty is done not through the feeling of having to, or expected, but because of a mutual respect of the individual. This world we live in, is hard enough without bringing cyber hardship into the scenario.
I couldn't care less if you had a thread which wasn't moderated. I wouldn't visit it, take part in it, or hold any argument with it. What i would/could and do object to, is the possiblitly of people, who i shall call friends, being at the brunt of someone else's jokes, opinions or whatever other hurtful insults might be branded about.
By having a thread like this, disharmony and hurt are always going to follow at the back of it. The other small point is, who has the right to say that the Mods should be singled out as being not allowed into a thread ! A mod, is a person who takes time to monitor a site and the content so as not to cause offense to another. I haven't to date, felt that anything that has been said by the mods, has been unfair, or that an individual has been unfairly treated.
Anyway, i'm blethering crap now, which isn't new, so long as no one finds what i say offensive.
Lots of love, hugs and kisses
Little
XXX
Sex God
well, here in the cafe we already have an open adult forum, where pretty much anything can be said about anything. the mods rarely get involved anyways, except as people with an opinion in their own right?
i'm not sure why any of us would want to be involved in, or read, what you're suggesting. often we have disagreements, and can even get quite ranty, but as soon as it descends into personal abuse it's rightly locked, and then pm's start pinging round to undo the damage. what you are suggesting is something that stays in full public view, and keeps those disagreements and personal comments on show. i personally would hate to see it.
i accept that if you're only ever polite and smiley, it presents only one kind of face, but personally i don't want to see the other side. i can read between the lines and get an idea of it anyways without having it confirmed by openly offensive posts of any kind.
neil x x x x ;)
i'm not sure why any of us would want to be involved in, or read, what you're suggesting. often we have disagreements, and can even get quite ranty, but as soon as it descends into personal abuse it's rightly locked, and then pm's start pinging round to undo the damage. what you are suggesting is something that stays in full public view, and keeps those disagreements and personal comments on show. i personally would hate to see it.
i accept that if you're only ever polite and smiley, it presents only one kind of face, but personally i don't want to see the other side. i can read between the lines and get an idea of it anyways without having it confirmed by openly offensive posts of any kind.
neil x x x x ;)
A totally pointless and destructive idea, here on this site or any other site IMHO. What is wrong with people these days...that they have to be nasty to other people. What is really worrying is the attempt to 'normalize' such behaviour by even suggesting such as forum as OPFZ. Why would you even contemplate such a thing? It would surely not benefit humanity in any way, just add to the totality of shit of which there is already enough in this world! The beauty of this site is the tolerance, understanding and love that we have for each other. True, there are disagreements and anger here sometimes but people are willing to talk things out or let things go. That's one of the greatest strengths of SH:: the ability to constructively debate issues and seek positive outcomes when conflicts arise. It's a mature approach..tempered with humour, love and intelligence.
So leave the schoolyard name calling and bullying behind and grow up FFS!
LC
So leave the schoolyard name calling and bullying behind and grow up FFS!
LC
Sex God
It's the mods that make this place enjoyable. Exclude them and exclude the enjoyment. That may not be obvious to some in certain circumstances but believe me it is a truism.
Sorry but I'm a no. I know I could just keep out but I also know that there will be a lot of upset people as a result and I don't wish that on anybody.
Sorry but I'm a no. I know I could just keep out but I also know that there will be a lot of upset people as a result and I don't wish that on anybody.
I have to agree with the majority here too.
Nothing would be gained by this type of thread other than discord and upset. And for God's sake haven't we had enough negativity on here in recent weeks? This site is supposed to be fun not nasty.
If that type of thread is what you crave - then as has already been suggested - find an unmoderated forum.
The mods on here are extremely patient and only interfere when things have deteriorated beyond redemption and have become too personal.
Just my opinion,
Alex
Nothing would be gained by this type of thread other than discord and upset. And for God's sake haven't we had enough negativity on here in recent weeks? This site is supposed to be fun not nasty.
If that type of thread is what you crave - then as has already been suggested - find an unmoderated forum.
The mods on here are extremely patient and only interfere when things have deteriorated beyond redemption and have become too personal.
Just my opinion,
Alex
