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Do You Think Some Ops Are a bit keen to show their "powers"

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easy
Sex God
Ooo I sense a closed/deleted thread coming. bolt
*easy legs it before he gets locked in or disappears into the twilight zone of deleted threads*
Firelizard
Sex God
Hi there
I've been using the chatrooms since we joined last December and have to say that so far my experience has been good. If I have had any hassle which is'nt too often I've been saved by a friendly op and it has made me more than happy to continue using the chatrooms. I would'nt have carried on if I didnt have this type of back up.
So My answer has to be no I don't think they are over zealous.
I don't know any of them personally or have any special relationship with any of them yet......but I'm working on it :twisted:
Love
Mrs L xxxxxxx
Regular cammer :shock: redface
Unknown User
Mostly Ops do a good and much needed job. OK now and then they get it wrong, so what it isnt the end of the world...no more than a mild annoyance.
As for bring on some kind of power trip or ego boost.....come on.... Its only a bloody chatroom at the end of the day.
fabio
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
Hi sorry to be a pain(again) but i just have a quick question for u to ponder,
There are certain ops on this site who seem to have ahd a power rush to their heads and seem in my eyes and many other peoples eyes to abuse their position, that said the vast majority of the ops are very good and approachable..
If a room is opened and the room owners are away, can a op shut the room because of this, and why ???? i think the answer would have been yes...if a room gets out of hand then i would assume that they could do this... and if the room owner isn't in the room then who does the kicking if someone is out of order???? or it could just be the fact that everyone left the room.. in which case it closes by itself........
If someone expresses and opinion about an op in the chatroom is it ok for them to ban the member???? as long as the opinion doesn't break the AUP and turn into abuse........

If a room is opened and the cammers want directing does this have to be in the room title. or is it at the owners discretion to police the room as they see fit?? well in the actually chatroom rules i think it acually does have a bit about not directing....it is link that everone misses before they go into the chatrooms.... so the honous is on the chatroom owner to let people know that directing is allow in that room... not the other way round!!!.... if you want to get round this.. put it in the title of the room... simple solution.....
if anyone could answer my questions it would be greatly appreciated.
I as with many others am still on my free mebership being a long standing member and we will be getting our membership renewed in december when the time comes,
but my main concern is im going to be shelling out money for little hittlers to dictate what we can and cannot do..
NOW FOR THE BIGGY< WILL THE THREAD BE -- LOCKED CAUSE OPS DONT LIKE WHAT IVE SAID biggrin
Well we wait in hope
Mark and Nicky

my answers in red.. and i am sure a mod would put me right..... but if you have a specific complaint then should you pm admin... rather than doing this????
Fektart
Master of Sex
An interesting topic of conversation to say the least...
MarkandNicky you are taking a big risk for voicing your opinions so openly. I hope it doesn't reflect badly on you.
Like in all things... power croupts and absolute power croupts absolutly .. discuss...
It is in the nature of things that people in power like to use it... sometimes because I can sometimes for the good of all, sometimes because I don't agree with that particular viewpoint.
there are some great ops, there are some good ops and then there are some ops who you really have to think why are they doing it or more to the point why are they being allowed to do it.
Yes this site is about swinging but is that all it is about?
Some threads have been locked because they are not about swinging... I thought this place was a community as well as a place for swinging. If you go to a munch you certainly get the sense of the community that there is here, my first munch for instance a site member broke down in thier car and couldn't afford to get it towed from the mway. A quick hat around the room for entirely voluntary contributiions no one was forced you were told what it was for... there was enough for the towing and some left over.
I have seen other sites completely destroyed by the mods because they alienated the people who use the site.
Have I ever been a mod... yes years agos I was a mod on a site and it is hard to stay impartial to everything we are only human and have our own thoughts and feelings that are hard to keep out of things.
Would I ever be a mod again? no I wouldn't I enjoyed doing it but not something I would want to do again.
enough of a rant from me....
Just one thing for everyone to remember the mods are doing it for free.... so we should be thankful for that which we are.
But also the mods are here to ensure the site and the community so I would just ask them to use thier powers wisely but also with common sense sometimes...
of course the big question is... can the mods see how we may or may not have voted. Which would of course bias how you vote....
To others saying this isn't a valid point. Isn't this an open forum to discuss whatever you want... Personally I think if the mods lock this thread they are kinda saying that what we think over rules what anyone else thinks. This is a cafe thread description of the cafe - an open forum for discussion of whatever we want... as long as its not about LMU or 4 legged animals...
Freckledbird
Sex God
Why don't you PM an op instead of asking people on the forum, who can't answer your questions anyway. The ops are not the mods of the forum. The mods will probably tell you the same and lock this.
hisandhers
Sex God
I feel that they do a really good job. This is what they are there for to stop any trouble happening & so the site can run smoothly.
:thumbup: for me with the ops
Freckledbird
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
freckle bird i have previously pmd ops with regards to this matter and i have been told to take it up with the op who i have asked the question about, i have tried all ways even speaking to the op directly, but just got ignored, as i said our experience with ops has been very good, and the "old school" ops are very good, everyone has bad days and can take things wrong way, but the op in question has 365 bad days a year.

Then complain to admin. No good coming in here complaining eitther is there, if the op is going to ignore you anyway?
mr__powers1
Sex God
Is it not also possible that chatroom users who have their own room day in day out, that they think they own that right and that also goes to their heads?
hisandhers
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
ts just that yesterday an op shut 2 rooms belonging to same couple who was on cam. first one because they allowed directing, yet they told op they wanted directing op gave infamous last words "this room will now shut"
they did a room asking for directorsm expressed an opinion about the op he come back in room kicked hem and said they getting one week ban,
as a reg user of chatrooms and camming i think that this treatment of the couple was unfair.

Why don't you let that other couple sort out their problems with this op? Why are you getting involved dunno
easy
Sex God
I know a few of the chatroom ops personally and I do think that they would not make a decision without some justification. They're normal, well-balanced folks who do this out of their own time for free because they enjoy the chat-room and want them to remain as the pleasant, friendly places they should be.
Please note I don't use the chatrooms myself and, as such, I don't know which op you're talking about so these opinions are from my personal experience talking face-to-face with them.
Unknown User
I don't mean to cause any offence - but - I don't actually know what the chatroom op's do anymore confused
There are so many rooms that they cannot be effectively policing them all at the same time and I very rarely see one - so rarely in fact I can only recall one ever dropping into a room I have opened/been in.
Unknown User
I'm staying out of this one :gagged:
fabio
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
Good call frecklebird, a simple solution that my brain didnt think of DOH :shock:
i dont mean to come accross as a bit of a t@~t as i am not. there are many people who can vouch we are a fun loving couple who regularly cam and have a laugh give and recieve piss takes with the humour they was sent with.
its just that yesterday an op shut 2 rooms belonging to same couple who was on cam. first one because they allowed directing, yet they told op they wanted directing op gave infamous last words "this room will now shut"
they did a room asking for directorsm expressed an opinion about the op he come back in room kicked hem and said they getting one week ban,
as a reg user of chatrooms and camming i think that this treatment of the couple was unfair.

in which case direct your complain to one of the admin.... martin m or elliott.........
because this is locked for use of the "german who sharn't be named" in your first post if nothing else............
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/chatroom/user-rules.html is the link that everyone misses before they go into the room..... so to be honest as much as i sympathise, can ignorance really be an excuse??????
Jags
Sex God
dunno :dunno:
Now I 'm confused. The complaint is about Chatroom Ops?? But it's here in the forum?? Have you tried http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/main/abuse.html as that would be the logical area to go to after approaching the Op directly.
If I lock this then I'm power mad and if I leave it it turns into a argument.
:cry: Think I'll have a cup of tea and wait and see.
wink
fabio
Sex God
Quote by PoloLady
I don't mean to cause any offence - but - I don't actually know what the chatroom op's do anymore confused
There are so many rooms that they cannot be effectively policing them all at the same time and I very rarely see one - so rarely in fact I can only recall one ever dropping into a room I have opened/been in.

obviously not been in one particular room on chatroom 2 then... like a bleeding works do in there.... admin in there during the day..... ops in there in the evening.... lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
don't even give me time to bitch about them behind their back.... smile :) :) :) :) :)
sean xxxxxxxx
Jags
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
Nearly finished with my moan now lol
Woul dit not be possible for the chatrrom rule to be displayed prior to entrance and a tick box to check to say u agree to the rules, then the chatters now exactly what they can and cant do, making it much more fun for the cammer like me and nicky, as when people get abusive and direct she shuts cam down and it is ruined for all in room,

Well, I'm not a user of the chatrooms but all this looks as if you HAVE TO CLICK to agree to the rules before you enter??
In an effort to make the chatroom run as smoothly as possible for everyone we would ask you to take notice of the following rules:-
Chatroom
User Name and Password:
• User name should NOT pertain words towards a minor eg: girl, baby, lad etc.
• No third parties are allowed to use your account: account will be banned
• Please ensure that you have the correct status eg fem male or couple
• No one under the age 18 is permitted to join or enter the chatroom even if part of a couple and the spouse is 18+, this will lead to an instant ban for both parties
• No room names are to contain references to sex with a minor, animals, drugs or
• Opening multiple rooms at the same time is not allowed, this causes the chatroom ops extra work and adds no value to the chatroom, please refrain from doing this in the future or your account will be deactivated.
Chat Etiquette
• No capitals are to be used as this is regarded as shouting and rude
• No abuse or bullying is allowed towards members, ops or admin
• No form of harassment is to take place eg racism
• Members within the site have user names to protect their privacy, please do not use their real life name when posting
• No trolling: this means the posting of the same message over and over again
• No talk of munch or dogging locations
• No posting of other sites, email addresses or phone numbers
• Please do NOT whisper without asking first and getting a yeah
Cams
• Please do NOT direct members on what they are to display
• When a cam is in use there are to be NO minors visible on the cam (we suggest not in the same room), if a child is visible this will lead to a ban
• When moving away from your pc, would you please turn off your cam
• No videos are to be played as this may break the copyright laws or it may be a fact that the persons involved have not given their consent for public viewing
When bans are enforced the members do have the right to appeal to Admin.
Members of Swinging Heaven have the right to be in a place with like minded people and not to be abused in any form from other members, ops or admin
Swinging Heaven has the right to change these terms and conditions without prior notice
The chatroom is with the rest of Swinging Heaven is for adults only, no mention of anythig related to minors is acceptable, if webcams are used minors should not present.
Anything illegal, including (but not limited to!) the promotion, suggestion or allusion to , or any non consensual acts, drugs (including misuse of prescribed medicines), or any other kind illegal activity.
If you create a room you must warn people before you kick them out, attempting to kick Ops and Admin is an offence.
In addition the Swinging Heaven Site Acceptable Use Policy applies to the chatroom, please make sure you read it before posting in the chat room.
If you connect a web cam it should be showing yourself(s) in part or full and not an inanimate object such as the ceiling or a light bulb.
If you agree to abide by these rules then please join our chatroom here.

The last five words are a link - I presume to the chatroom... I can't see any problem here at all. The Op has appeared to doeverything just right.
dunno :dunno:
fabio
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
Nearly finished with my moan now lol
Woul dit not be possible for the chatrrom rule to be displayed prior to entrance and a tick box to check to say u agree to the rules, then the chatters now exactly what they can and cant do, making it much more fun for the cammer like me and nicky, as when people get abusive and direct she shuts cam down and it is ruined for all in room,

erm... i think you'll find that it is......
just above where the two big boxes are for the rooms you have two lovely lines of writing...
"This chatroom is here to provide adults (swingers) in the UK with a room to chat live with people on adult themes. Before you enter and begin chatting, make sure you have read and agreed to abide by the chatroom rules."
and if you clicked on the words "charoom rules" it takes you to the link......
Jags
Sex God
Just read the first post again.. I feel Godwin's Law being invoked.
:shock: :shock:
mr__powers1
Sex God
Ive just checked the chatroom rules......and i can see quite a few there that are broken everyday.....i don't see anyone complaining then,then when an op acts on them,this kind of thread gets started! rolleyes
Dawnie
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
If a room is opened and the room owners are away, can a op shut the room because of this, and why ????

Yes, because there is no one in there to moderate the chatters rolleyes
Quote by markandnicky
If someone expresses and opinion about an op in the chatroom is it ok for them to ban the member????

It is an offense to insult or abuse any chatter, so yes, if you are talking directly about an OP they can kick or ban that member.
Quote by markandnicky
If a room is opened and the cammers want directing does this have to be in the room title. or is it at the owners discretion to police the room as they see fit??

Charoom rules
• Please do NOT direct members on what they are to display
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/chatroom/user-rules.html
All room owners have to apply the same rules as the OPs, warnings given before kicks and chatrooms OPs will take action on the offender causing trouble AND the room owner not following guidelines :roll:
Quote by markandnicky
NOW FOR THE BIGGY< WILL THE THREAD BE -- LOCKED CAUSE OPS DONT LIKE WHAT IVE SAID biggrin

Why?
Most of the chatrooms OPs have no power over the forum and you're only giving an opinion, aren't you?
Please feel free to pm admin or myself and I will take up any issues you have in private to try and come to some agreement :D
Ian
Sex God
Quote by markandnicky
There are certain ops on this site who seem to have ahd a power rush to their heads and seem in my eyes and many other peoples eyes to abuse their position, that said the vast majority of the ops are very good and approachable..

My concern here is that there are a certin few "standard chatters" that have had a power rush. they think that they are the big "I AM"... these people either have read the rules and feel they are above them, or couldn't give a flyer on the rules cos they are just so god damn important no op would DARE to critisise them
Quote by markandnicky
If a room is opened and the room owners are away, can a op shut the room because of this, and why ????

can we, yes. Why.... cos they are unmoderated in the most part if we dont. Most of the rooms that we close are the "blowjob at 10:00am" type of rooms. Created just to cause a stir with no intention of being real. If the room is a regular room (ie midlands or northwest) I will give one of the chatters the option to create a new room before I close the offending one.
Quote by markandnicky
If someone expresses and opinion about an op in the chatroom is it ok for them to ban the member????

opinions are like backsides..... everyone has one, but sometimes they are rude to air in public. I will gladly hear comments or critisisms about my actions, but rarely does it stop there. How would you feel for example, if the only person on cam in a room was a single fem "performing", but in breach of the rules so had to be kicked. You then have 50 or 60 single guys all with an opinion...
Quote by markandnicky
If a room is opened and the cammers want directing does this have to be in the room title. or is it at the owners discretion to police the room as they see fit??

the chatroom rules do clearly state no directing.
Quote by markandnicky
but my main concern is im going to be shelling out money for little hittlers to dictate what we can and cannot do..

I think we are more like a handful of school teachers at times, with a classroom of 1000 that can easily be lead / swayed by a minority of vocal ones.
Ian
HornyLittleBlonde
Sex God
Quote by Jags
If I lock this then I'm power mad and if I leave it it turns into a argument.
:cry: Think I'll have a cup of tea and wait and see.
wink

If Hitler was here he'd have locked it :wink:
Dawnie
Sex God
I am going to lock this now because I have taken this to pm so markandnicky get a proper full answer.
Many of the chatters do not read the fourm so you wouldn't get a fair reply to your question from the chatters.
Jags
Sex God
Quote by HornyLittleBlonde

If I lock this then I'm power mad and if I leave it it turns into a argument.
:cry: Think I'll have a cup of tea and wait and see.
wink

If Hitler was here he'd have locked it :wink:
BAD GIRL! smackbottom :smackbottom:
Luckily Dawn got to it first :happy: :happy:
Sgt_Bilko
Sex God
I am the op mentioned in here!!! confused :? :? :? :?
What did I do that was so bad?
I had a room full of people writing "show us your tits", "get your knickers off" etc. I reminded everyone that there is no directing in any room at which point the woman that was on cam told me to piss off!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
For some reason I don't like being told to Piss Off when I am Opping, so I kicked her from the room!! :shock: :shock:
That left 69 chatters with nobody to watch!!!! rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll:
You are correct markandnicky in saying that I have not been a Chatroom Op for long, but it seems that I know the rules better than most of the people that have been using the Chatroom for a long time. If you have any further problems with the chatroom rules please PM me.
Quote by markandnicky
but surely consistancy is the key here, let it slip one min clamp down the next.

I agree with that and whether I am Modding here in the Forum, or Opping in the Chatroom I try to be consistant!! lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(Edit) mmmmmm, it appears that Markand nicky may not have been referring to me, so sorry for that, but everything I wrote still stands!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: