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Hi all, I'd like you to read a message i've left for support tonight.
I paid or whatever it was for the extras "coming back soon" yes those extras.
My photo's keep being deleted as they contain pictures of a third party!!!! how does one swing alone ......... I need help here. There are hundreds if not thousands of ads featuring wives with other guys, guys with other mens wives (as was mine) guys with guys etc etc. yet a moderator who is nameless has decided that my pictures contravene the site rules. Sorry people but so do most of yours. Anyway, I decided tonight having had them deleted again I would say something, by the way my pictures are available on two other leading U.K. sites where my profile is also verified as genuine. But i digress, here's the message left for support tonight.
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Hi there, yet again my photo's are being deleted by site moderators without any chance of redress on my part. My photo's contain images of me and a friend enjoying sexual activities which surely are the point of advertising on this site! There are hundreds of ads by couples and singles portraying the same as mine, ie inclusion aof a third party (******** for example) I could list dozens more.
Is the issue here that this site is hosted in the U.K. and not on an adult hosting server?
If this is so do you not think it fair to tell prospective members or are you happy with a moderators comment I shall quote here. this was copied from an advert I came across.
And I quote "MODERATOR REMOVED AD ASKING MEMBERS TO BREAK SITE CONTACT RULES. NEXT TIME WE REMOVE THE ACCOUNT. WE JUST LOVE TAKING YOUR MONEY AND THEN BANNING YOU WITH MADE UP REASONS AND NOT ALLOWING YOU ANY COME BACK. YOU ARE ALL MUGS ON HERE - YOU NEVER LEARN! KEEP SENDING US YOUR MONEY!!!! 13/07/2006 08:12"
I personally have paid you people for sevices which we are still not receiving as advertised, I do think if you are going to moderate this site it should not be left to faceless individuals to express themselves in your companies name, without paid users having some form of redress............
Your thoughts please
Personally I let pictures of a third party go through, providing that...
a) the majority of the photo is of the account holder, a big majority btw, and
b) that there is absolutely nothing recognisable about the bit of the third party that is showing, totally unrecognisable.
We have no way of knowing that the third party has given consent to the photos, so instead of one rule for one (ie the people we 'know' who would never post a pic without consent) and another rule for another - the third party rule goes across the board.
If you do see photos of a third party, that is even slightly recognisable, then press that little "report photo" button - the more help we get, the tidier we can keep it..... as opposed to doing the 'it's not fairs', tis a lot more helpful biggrin
Discretion is always paramount here surely, I would never post someone elses face and am somewhat careful about posting my own.
As for not knowing about permissions how then do you make any decisions??
As for my case here I'm not pleading "the unfairs" take into account that the guy let me fuck his wife, we both enjoyed it, he took the pics an then emailed them to me......... ffs
Quote by Hugh-Jerection
Discretion is always paramount here surely, I would never post someone elses face and am somewhat careful about posting my own.
As for not knowing about permissions how then do you make any decisions??

Just one question do you think the best way of advertising yourself is to post some third party pic's that say look what I was shagging last week ? I enjoy looking at action shots but only in a top shelf kind of way. When we've scanned the ad's and seen that a user has a majority of action shots it's on to the next one I'm afraid smile
You are welcome to your opinion I am not here to censor anyone. If you don't like my ad then move along by all means, I do the same, when i see one that does'nt light my fire lol
I wonder if this is the point where the sanctimonius nonsense will begin ........yawns
Quote by Hugh-Jerection
You are welcome to your opinion I am not here to censor anyone. If you don't like my ad then move along by all means, I do the same, when i see one that does'nt light my fire lol
I wonder if this is the point where the sanctimonius nonsense will begin ........yawns

I hope not Hugh but it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy to be honest fella... and you have asked people for their thoughts confused
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You are welcome to your opinion I am not here to censor anyone. If you don't like my ad then move along by all means, I do the same, when i see one that does'nt light my fire lol
I wonder if this is the point where the sanctimonius nonsense will begin ........yawns

I hope not Hugh but it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy to be honest fella... and you have asked people for their thoughts confused
I too hope not.
"non" sanctimonious nonsense on it's way
Quote by Hugh-Jerection
Discretion is always paramount here surely, I would never post someone elses face and am somewhat careful about posting my own.
As for not knowing about permissions how then do you make any decisions??
As for my case here I'm not pleading "the unfairs" take into account that the guy let me fuck his wife, we both enjoyed it, he took the pics an then emailed them to me......... ffs

Then how do you suggest the photos are modded??
As you said, you fucked a guys wife with him taking the photos..... but were the photos for personal use only? Or did they make it quite clear that you can post them on the open www? With thousands of ads, how else can we vet all these photos?
Sure it's a swingers site, for swingers, or people curious about the scene, genuine people and in an ideal world, people would be able to post photos of a third party with the trust that consent has been given ........ but the real world ain't like that, to the point where photos have even been posted maliciously by ex partners.
And how far would you go with letting these photos through, would you let all the ones through where the account holder has cropped out their face, but left the face of the third party in there?? What point would you draw the line?
Plus ........ why would you want to show pictures of people that are absolutely nothing to do with the account? dunno
Always been curious about that one :confused:
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Plus ........ why would you want to show pictures of people that are absolutely nothing to do with the account? dunno
Always been curious about that one :confused:

Yep us too confused
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Look at meeeeeee! i got laid :smug:

Yep thats also the way I see it confused er that doesn't mean I saw the ONE TIME meaty got laid lol bolt
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Look at meeeeeee! i got laid :smug:

Yep thats also the way I see it confused er that doesn't mean I saw the ONE TIME meaty got laid lol bolt
Meaty got laid! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
This site really does work!
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Look at meeeeeee! i got laid :smug:

Stop being 'sanctithingyus' wink
Personally we find a decent face shot far better as a marketing tool than anything else to be honest.. unless you're a minger then it's best to use a soft focus lol
However, we appreciate as two gay blokes, it's very different than being a single female, male or even couple on this site... why some of the 'straight' blokes (and I use that term loosely) ;) see the necessity of putting up pics of themselves with their knob up a punani I don't know - is that what people really want to see? confused Is that going to make the reader think 'I wish that was me?' or is it more likely to make them think 'Jesus, if I meet him/her/them, I hope to God they don't post my/our pics on here' dunno
your wife was so grateful to get a decent shag for a change
I suppose what I want is a means of redress foremost. However, your comments are subjective as you haven't seen the pictures.
This is supposedly an adult site, question? someone who's fifteen stes up a account and joins this site, can you tell me how you vet them?
I have been swinging for about four or maybe five years now am verified in several places and used to be a chat op on here in the good old days of mirc I know the rules and etiquette.
There are no means whatsoever in place on this site to a) verify that any individual here is of legal age b) that they can be verified as genuine by other site members that's easily visible
( enabling cliquishness to prevail in forums/chatrooms etc) I think that it's a very badly run site left to faceless individuals who do not want their actions to be questioned.
If this site is to succeed there needs to be some major input as to how it's run. There aren't the same problems on LS or D&M's
All the time I see adverts with this member is currently banned from the site.......... whose decision?
Who do they respond to??
Or.. do they set another spoof email up and go again.
All I am doing here is not pleading " I'm being treated unfairly" I think things are'nt being run they way they should! or maybe remove the front end of the site and run it through the forum.
At the end of the day "swinging" is supposedly an adult pastime and this is a "swingers" site not somewher an adult comes and Pays to be treated like some seven year old.
Now I know this becoming a bit of a rant, but I am a single guy who swings, and for all you couples who have been fucked around by timewasters usually in the guise of single guys, i'm sure that somewhere you can see my point.
Sanctimony mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sanctimony
had to happen did'nt it lol I've awoken the christian swingers brigade.......... oill be up fer it now.
Frankly I have never understood why singles(of either sex) feel the need to post pics of them in action......dunno
I can see the reason for couples posting pics of them both in action together as it gives an indication of both parties...
To be honest I much prefer a good arty or tantilising photo anyway.........leaving a little to the imagination........Dont you agree Sassy.....:rascal:
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Now I know this becoming a bit of a rant, but I am a single guy who swings, and for all you couples who have been fucked around by timewasters usually in the guise of single guys, i'm sure that somewhere you can see my point.
Sanctimony mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sanctimony

It's OK, apology accepted and yes, we see your point ;)
PS: Nice knob :thumbup:
Quote by Hugh-Jerection
My photo's keep being deleted as they contain pictures of a third party!!!! how does one swing alone ......... I need help here. There are hundreds if not thousands of ads featuring wives with other guys, guys with other mens wives (as was mine) guys with guys etc etc. . . . . . .
Your thoughts please

The simplest answer that springs to my mind is that you can't swing alone.
I agree that there are hundreds of Profile Pics showing third parties. Every one of any "couples account" that shows any three(or more)some pics. Every caucasian (is that an allowed word ??) person showing someone else with a different colour/race, and vice versa (Mixed race couples showing just themselves obviously don't fall into that)
It's at this point that I'd normally be calling for consistency - I have in the past. But Missy has altered my view . . . . .
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Personally I let pictures of a third party go through, providing that...
a) the majority of the photo is of the account holder, a big majority btw, and
b) that there is absolutely nothing recognisable about the bit of the third party that is showing, totally unrecognisable.
We have no way of knowing that the third party has given consent to the photos, . . . . .

Thank you, Missy.
For applying what seems like good old fashioned common sense and tempering your modding with it.
You've restored at least some of at least my faith that the site can and is more often than not, modded by humans as opposed to automatons. A little like a traffic copper instead of a speed camera kiss
I think many people know my opinions and thoughts on the changed to pic/image/video rules. For those that don't - I disagree with a large proportion of the current rules. But in the same way as I want to keep my driving licence; I try not to get caught speeding rolleyes
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As for not knowing about permissions how then do you make any decisions??

I think there's a very simple initial solution, but only where the third party is a member of the site. Unfortunately, it would probably increase the workload of the Mods, so I'm not going to put it forward.
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Just one question do you think the best way of advertising yourself is to post some third party pic's that say look what I was shagging last week ?

Is it necessarily saying "look what I was shagging last night" ?????
Could it not be viewed as "Here I am. This is what I do. This is how the site works for me, and many others" etc etc etc
I think it's a whole other question as to why people post pics in their profile. Be that pics of themselves and/or other people.
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used to be a chat op on here in the good old days of mirc I know the rules and etiquette.

Were you?? dunno Interesting seeing as neither Steve nor I know who you are confused
As for the matter of the pictures... IF you have been here that long you know the rules about the pictures so why have you decided now to make a song and dance about it?? :dunno: As far as I know it has always been the same rule :? :?
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and used to be a chat op on here in the good old days of mirc I know the rules and etiquette.

Not jumping on him because me and PK are enjoying a rare night togethe and have better things to do r but could someone please verify :scared: for our own curiosity if this chappy was an OP biggrin
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All the time I see adverts with this member is currently banned from the site.......... whose decision?

No doubt the person that saw fit to ban them for their transgression dunno
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Or.. do they set another spoof email up and go again.

They can if they want to throw their money down the drain as they eventually get found out and banned again..... smile
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but could someone please verify :scared: for our own curiosity if this chappy was an OP biggrin

Never heard of him Sheddy dunno
Steve does "nine" remember Steve??
Tounge still here??
Fred F still here?
I know that lips ain't bless her
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Steve does "nine" remember Steve??

Nope confused
Suit yerself
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Suit yerself

Ok..... smile
What happened to fred flintstone then you remember him don't you ?
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What happened to fred flintstone then you remember him don't you ?

I can see this turning into a Barney!
Too late for a barney I've had me pills