Another research program, that has come to the conclusion that if you point at the big red bus and say 'Look at the big red bus' your child will learn what a big red bus is.
When will we start to spend money on reach into something we do not know. Something like why do apples fall down and not up?
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While the example sounds facile, the underlying principle is sound for me.
Many of the parents I see everyday do not give their children the time of day. They usher them around and should a child make an honest enquiry about the "big red bus" they are told "Shut up! I'm busy!" or ignored.
It does seem like common sense I know, but sadly there are a great many parents who are completely devoid of this and pointing the blindingly obvious out to them once in a while is never a bad thing.
The greatest gift you can give a child is time, patience and the benefit of experience and it costs nothing.
I agree though, conducting research into this is probably a stretch of credibility. Some things are so plaintively obvious that if they need scientifically proving, then we really need to be equally as worried for the people conducting the research, as we do those for whom it is intended.
Many of the parents I see everyday do not give their children the time of day. They usher them around and should a child make an honest enquiry about the "big red bus" they are told "Shut up! I'm busy!" or ignored.
It does seem like common sense I know, but sadly there are a great many parents who are completely devoid of this and pointing the blindingly obvious out to them once in a while is never a bad thing.
The greatest gift you can give a child is time, patience and the benefit of experience and it costs nothing.
I agree though, conducting research into this is probably a stretch of credibility. Some things are so plaintively obvious that if they need scientifically proving, then we really need to be equally as worried for the people conducting the research, as we do those for whom it is intended.
The link provided clearly is trying to show a devide between the less well off, and those, how can I put it, in not such a finanially challenged position.
I never really have seen any parents who are not personally interested in furthering there childs development, by the use of their time with them and general encougmeant with learning to speak and so on.
Again, most of what I know about bad parenting is from the Newspapers, and TV.
A long time ago, I had the opportunity to work at a place where I regurally interacted with kids and their parents who were from what would be classed as disadvantaged homes.
The parents were lovely, caring, and put their childrens interests way above their own. The kids were happy, chatty and being eduacated by the schools and their parents.
A different parenting style to mine maybe, but who was to say, whos was the best one, not me!
I would like to know how the people of this survey were selected, sometimes with the choices of those chosen it is going to be a foregone conclusion, if you know what I mean!
Younger parents, on both sides of the devide, would seriously question the out come of what seems a rather unneeded survey!
Lucys post.
I never really have seen any parents who are not personally interested in furthering there childs development, by the use of their time with them and general encougmeant with learning to speak and so on.
Again, most of what I know about bad parenting is from the Newspapers, and TV.
A long time ago, I had the opportunity to work at a place where I regurally interacted with kids and their parents who were from what would be classed as disadvantaged homes.
The parents were lovely, caring, and put their childrens interests way above their own. The kids were happy, chatty and being eduacated by the schools and their parents.
A different parenting style to mine maybe, but who was to say, whos was the best one, not me!
I would like to know how the people of this survey were selected, sometimes with the choices of those chosen it is going to be a foregone conclusion, if you know what I mean!
Younger parents, on both sides of the devide, would seriously question the out come of what seems a rather unneeded survey!
Lucys post.
Lucy, Im from a poor family. Poor is fine by me rather than financially challenged.
How about this for a theory.
The richer kids with "better" vocabularies have not got better vocabularies at all. What they do have is a shared vocabulary with their relatively rich teachers. In his PHD Ben theorises that talking the same words helps people to communicate.
Wheres my grant!!!
Sling me another £50k and ill do research into relatively rich teachers giving rich kids more attention in the classroom. Make it £100k and ill even do "richer kids get the better teachers".
This is not a dig at educators. Irony is not to iron as brassy is to brass.
How about this for a theory.
The richer kids with "better" vocabularies have not got better vocabularies at all. What they do have is a shared vocabulary with their relatively rich teachers. In his PHD Ben theorises that talking the same words helps people to communicate.
Wheres my grant!!!
Sling me another £50k and ill do research into relatively rich teachers giving rich kids more attention in the classroom. Make it £100k and ill even do "richer kids get the better teachers".
This is not a dig at educators. Irony is not to iron as brassy is to brass.
Research of the 'bleeding obvious' is unfortunately required ... not to educate us but to be placed on record as quantitive evidence however flimsy as a building block upon which further studies can be constructed and proven or otherwise.....take a good look outside next time - watch people carefully and you will see that not everyone is aware of the obvious....more like they are oblivious or even naieve.
If a study and its selection can be proven invalid it has not been a waste - it has been a valuable lesson in how not to carry out research.....this is the human way of learning....
Oh I am not an academic - It just seemed bleedin' obvious lol
If a study and its selection can be proven invalid it has not been a waste - it has been a valuable lesson in how not to carry out research.....this is the human way of learning....
Oh I am not an academic - It just seemed bleedin' obvious lol
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Lucy, Im from a poor family. Poor is fine by me rather than financially challenged.
How about this for a theory.
The richer kids with "better" vocabularies have not got better vocabularies at all. What they do have is a shared vocabulary with their relatively rich teachers. In his PHD Ben theorises that talking the same words helps people to communicate.
Wheres my grant!!!
Sling me another £50k and ill do research into relatively rich teachers giving rich kids more attention in the classroom. Make it £100k and ill even do "richer kids get the better teachers".
This is not a dig at educators. Irony is not to iron as brassy is to brass.
Bens, the words I typed, were actually used as I was not wanting to cause any offence to any one who may be poor!!!
In the world we live in today, as you know, you cant type or say much any more, with out someone thinking you are out of order!!
That was me trying to conform, when obviously it was not needed!
If we all chip together, we may be able to set you up with 50 grand or so, to do valuable reseach in he area you expressed an intrest in!!!!!
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Sorry but I've just imagined someone I know pointing to the big red bus and saying:
"They used to be RouteMasters, but nowadays they're more likely to be Scanias. You want to try double de-clutching a RouteMaster up a steep hill. Now they're all semi-automatic gearboxes. In the old days they used to issue drivers with blankets for their knees because the cab wasn't heated. And don't get me started on bendy buses!"
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Quote by benrums0n
I dont understand the post about euphemisms can you enlighten me please.
I don't understand the word euphemism
What is it?Same as rhetorical - only recently found out that word meant answering your own question, rhetorically speaking of course
8-) 8-) (is that the right context? :uhoh: )So, what's a euphemism......... Which ties in nicely with Bens rich teachers teaching. Unless I just missed that lesson :?
Oops, back on track..... gestures to wealth. Can think of some gestures that are used, but don't think they're apt for a toddler, would have the social on your back if you taught your precious darling to do the Wanker sign as you passed an annoying car yelling "Tossers" at em :?
What sort of gestures are they talking about? My eldest is to the extreme - if she's excited about something, then her arms, and whole body actually, are flailing about everywhere as she babbles out words in no particular order, leaving you to try and make some sense of it - yet if I've sat her down for a naughty talk, it's like musical bluddy statues, just her eyeballs rolling now and again
Is that good and intellectual, or is she daft as a brush?
Quote by Missy
I dont understand the post about euphemisms can you enlighten me please.
I don't understand the word euphemism
What is it?A euphemism is simply when you use a phrase or word to replace something that may sound rather more harsh or vulgar...
For example... "One off the wrist" for Masturbation, "taking a dump" for.. well the obvious... "draining the spuds..." I'm sure you know a lot more.
Not to be confused with a euphonium which is a big brass instrument which you blow. Which in itself may be a euphemism.
Quote by Resonance
I dont understand the post about euphemisms can you enlighten me please.
I don't understand the word euphemism
What is it?A euphemism is simply when you use a phrase or word to replace something that may sound rather more harsh or vulgar...
For example... "One off the wrist" for Masturbation, "taking a dump" for.. well the obvious... "draining the spuds..." I'm sure you know a lot more.
Not to be confused with a euphonium which is a big brass instrument which you blow. Which in itself may be a euphemism.
Thanks Res
I shall be very careful not to confuse my euphemisms from my euphoniums and euphorias :?
Now that's cleared up, what's the difference between a euphemism and an analogy (apart from the spelling of course!)
Thanks again
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but analogy is always rude... surely?
lp
Dunno about that LP - I always thought analogy was something that made you ill or come up in a rash, like nuts or pollen or stuff like that :undecided:
I shall check that theory out come springtime... as I have as yet to rub pollen into my bottom-parts.
It should be interesting though, thankyou for expanding my 'to do' list.
:notes:
lp
another thought on the pollen issue
if holding a buttercup under your chin in daylight tells all whether or not you like butter....
should the pollenated petals presented to the backside be a pansy?
and... should that also be in daylight?
around here, the only pansies I may have access to would be council plantings on roundabouts and raised bed affairs on local estates.
Might there be legal issues?
ooh look, a big red bum!
lp
if holding a buttercup under your chin in daylight tells all whether or not you like butter....
should the pollenated petals presented to the backside be a pansy?
and... should that also be in daylight?
around here, the only pansies I may have access to would be council plantings on roundabouts and raised bed affairs on local estates.
Might there be legal issues?
ooh look, a big red bum!
lp
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Anyone who can suggest (research or no research) that middle class children use greater and more varied gestures than working class children has patently never been to Millwall on a Saturday :shock:
