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This has been a most interesting and erudite thread and one that I think should be returned to as the legislation goes through its various processes. I have worried, however, at BFC's comments. Where I have been coming from is not to do with censorship of adult-consenting porn and sexual activity (heaven forbid - I was at Chams yesterday indulging in all sorts and having a very good time!), but where porn is used deliberately to exploit. Whether this be by adults exposing kids to porn via internet/photo images/ magazines etc, or, as I pointed out previously the trade in 'sex slaves'. As Alspals quite rightly comment, the wider community has to take an interest in kids who have been abused because their abusers - often parents - don't care whether they are exposed to porn (most likely promoting it!). People need to realise that this goes on and somewhere along the line, be involved in preventing this activity from continuing. Whether we are parents or not, we all have a responsibility!
Mod edit: no need to start a new thread - threads merged.
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This has been a most interesting and erudite thread and one that I think should be returned to as the legislation goes through its various processes. I have worried, however, at BFC's comments. Where I have been coming from is not to do with censorship of adult-consenting porn and sexual activity (heaven forbid - I was at Chams yesterday indulging in all sorts and having a very good time!), but where porn is used deliberately to exploit. Whether this be by adults exposing kids to porn via internet/photo images/ magazines etc, or, as I pointed out previously the trade in 'sex slaves'. As Alspals quite rightly comment, the wider community has to take an interest in kids who have been abused because their abusers - often parents - don't care whether they are exposed to porn (most likely promoting it!). People need to realise that this goes on and somewhere along the line, be involved in preventing this activity from continuing. Whether we are parents or not, we all have a responsibility!
Mod edit: no need to start a new thread - threads merged.

So the only form of porn to be used to "abuse" is extreme porn? If the vast majority of such cases actually involved regular none BDSM straight MF, MFM, MFF or MM fucking should all porn be outlawed because of it's potential for abusive use? Unfortunately society is a dangerous place for lots of reasons, we can either seek to "control" anything and everything that could potentially be misused or we can focus effort on promoting responsible use of anything and everything from cars to alcohol.
To draw a parallel there have been many instances of sexual assault where the victim has been either fully or partially incapacitated with alcohol, does it then follow that alcohol should be banned? I think that this is the type of subject where people who are opposed to a particular subject matter will find reasons to justfy it's restriction because they just don't like it and thus don't see any legitimate way that others can enjoy it too. It takes real strength of character to recognise one's own prejudices and defend the freedom of others to do things that we personally might find offensive.
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This has been a most interesting and erudite thread and one that I think should be returned to as the legislation goes through its various processes. I have worried, however, at BFC's comments. Where I have been coming from is not to do with censorship of adult-consenting porn and sexual activity (heaven forbid - I was at Chams yesterday indulging in all sorts and having a very good time!), but where porn is used deliberately to exploit. Whether this be by adults exposing kids to porn via internet/photo images/ magazines etc, or, as I pointed out previously the trade in 'sex slaves'. As Alspals quite rightly comment, the wider community has to take an interest in kids who have been abused because their abusers - often parents - don't care whether they are exposed to porn (most likely promoting it!). People need to realise that this goes on and somewhere along the line, be involved in preventing this activity from continuing. Whether we are parents or not, we all have a responsibility!
Mod edit: no need to start a new thread - threads merged.

So the only form of porn to be used to "abuse" is extreme porn? If the vast majority of such cases actually involved regular none BDSM straight MF, MFM, MFF or MM fucking should all porn be outlawed because of it's potential for abusive use? Unfortunately society is a dangerous place for lots of reasons, we can either seek to "control" anything and everything that could potentially be misused or we can focus effort on promoting responsible use of anything and everything from cars to alcohol.
To draw a parallel there have been many instances of sexual assault where the victim has been either fully or partially incapacitated with alcohol, does it then follow that alcohol should be banned? I think that this is the type of subject where people who are opposed to a particular subject matter will find reasons to justfy it's restriction because they just don't like it and thus don't see any legitimate way that others can enjoy it too. It takes real strength of character to recognise one's own prejudices and defend the freedom of others to do things that we personally might find offensive.
yes, but like fags, the alcohol genie is out of the bottle (pardon the pun) and it's unlikely if what we know now was known years ago, that cigs & booze would be available without a prescription!. The issue of extreme, violent internet images can be addressed before we find out what it's influences have been at some time in the future and it's therefore a social experiment I can survive without discovering the probable negative consequences of. smile