reagrding the happy to keep shoving the suger and carbs down their throats, sorry but that seems harsh. most people who are overweight dont enjoy it.
like any addiction they dont want to continue with it , but cant see a way out and want a pill to fix it.
its the mental over the physical.
some people will get to a certain size and stabalise there, but dont have the mental strength to rectify their ways.
i think with food, perscription drugs alcohol, its socially available, not illegal and accepted. so sometimes easier to slip into the addiction or habbit.
where by some would frown and never consider taking illegal drugs.
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That is true... it used to be the same when I worked in a pharmacy...
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havent read all the replies but i am one of those peeps who dish out prescriptions. One thing that amazes me is how demanding people are. The current demand is for diet pills ..... if you read the list of side effects for some of them you would be happy to stay is my policy to look at a persons diet and advise them to eat and exercise sensibly but 9 out of 10 dont want that they wish to continue stuffing large quantities of fat sugar and refind carbs down their throats and pop a pill for a quick fix despite being given full information about the side effects. I have refused many times to prescribe them only to get a letter of complaint sent to the health authority. Not all people are cognitavely able to make informed choices and even whe n clearly stated only take 3 a day they think they will work faster if they take 6.
Also people demand repeat prescriptions and refuse to attend for medication reviews .... i refuse to repeat prescribe in those circumstances until i have seen them.
So there is another side to all of this.
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reagrding the happy to keep shoving the suger and carbs down their throats, sorry but that seems harsh. most people who are overweight dont enjoy it.
like any addiction they dont want to continue with it , but cant see a way out and want a pill to fix it.
its the mental over the physical.
some people will get to a certain size and stabalise there, but dont have the mental strength to rectify their ways.
i think with food, perscription drugs alcohol, its socially available, not illegal and accepted. so sometimes easier to slip into the addiction or habbit.
where by some would frown and never consider taking illegal drugs.
xx fem xx
whist i sympathise people do have to take responsibilty for their actions it is a shame to be adicted to anything but we live in a microwave age where everything is instant and the quick fix pill is not the answer in this case ( of over eating) it is to counsel and nurture and enourage people to take possitive steps to take control over their lives.
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whist i sympathise people do have to take responsibilty for their actions it is a shame to be adicted to anything but we live in a microwave age where everything is instant and the quick fix pill is not the answer in this case ( of over eating) it is to counsel and nurture and enourage people to take possitive steps to take control over their lives.
If only that was possible in all cases. Though it may help if more doctors had minds that were more open to more alternatives and didn't shut their minds to things that they can't cure.
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whist i sympathise people do have to take responsibilty for their actions it is a shame to be adicted to anything but we live in a microwave age where everything is instant and the quick fix pill is not the answer in this case ( of over eating) it is to counsel and nurture and enourage people to take possitive steps to take control over their lives.
If only that was possible in all cases. Though it may help if more doctors had minds that were more open to more alternatives and didn't shut their minds to things that they can't cure.
thats just it doctors are doctors not gods they cant cure everything and peeps have to take responsibility fo their own lives no one makes anyone do anything
Quote by midsprincess
whist i sympathise people do have to take responsibilty for their actions it is a shame to be adicted to anything but we live in a microwave age where everything is instant and the quick fix pill is not the answer in this case ( of over eating) it is to counsel and nurture and enourage people to take possitive steps to take control over their lives.
If only that was possible in all cases. Though it may help if more doctors had minds that were more open to more alternatives and didn't shut their minds to things that they can't cure.
thats just it doctors are doctors not gods they cant cure everything and peeps have to take responsibility fo their own lives no one makes anyone do anything
It's not about making anyone do anything, sometimes it cannot be avoided.
I have to be open about this. I'm not a great fan of doctors having been a patient with bad experiences and having worked with a lot of them and having seen things that normally the public won't see. That said they are of course invaluable and totally essential, but I truly wish their training on certain things was much less regimented and embroiled in traditional and old-fashioned thinking.
I'm addicted to tramadol through no fault of my own. I cannot function without some form of heavy duty painkiller. It's not a lifestyle choice, it's not a quick fix. It's simply a matter of being able to get off the bed and walk with the drugs and not being able to get off the bed without them. It's taken me since 1985 to find out what's wrong with me and even now one consultant says one thing and another says something else, meanwhile I'm stuck in the middle with several incurable conditions, in pain and unable to miss a capsule in case I start withdrawal symptoms.
I know your original post was about diet drugs and their use, but really that in itself was a quick fix because there's a simple answer to that particular problem. Most other cases are not so simple, and don't forget that most people who are addicted to prescription drugs are in that state because a doctor prescribed those drugs. A lot of the time this is because the harried and over-worked GP has to supply quick fixes him/herself and sometimes (far too many times I suspect) that quick fix is to throw drugs at the patient.
I realise that it is not totally their fault, I know they are banging their heads against the wall with the pressure from the health service, from the government, from the sheer quantity of patients and from the pharmaceutical companies but it is totally unfair to lay the blame at the patients' feet. Most patients trust the doctor to do the best thing for them, in the same way that doctors trust the mechanic to do the right thing for their car. It has to be trust because no-one knows everything about everything especially something as complicated as the human body.
Remember, this thread is about prescribed drugs and in most cases there is only one place you can get them from, so the GP has to take their share of the blame for this one.
As for medical reviews, I have to be honest, I've never been to one yet, I've never been asked to attend one. As far as I was concerned, and knew, it just meant the GP having a quick butcher's at my notes and decided on whether my repeat script should be renewed.
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people with enough money use prescription drugs to get whatever they want from at what elvis was up them going to street corner `t make them aby different from your common orgarden baghead
And that goes for all prescription drug users, or just the ones that are too lazy to go to the dealer on the corner?
as with all walks of life there are good and bad there are good builders there are bad builders there are good doctors and there are bad doctors.
No one is knocking anyone with a chronic disease who takes regular medicine, in the way in which it is prescribed and used for what it is intended.
I myself have type 1 diabetes and inject insulin 4 times a day and could not do without it. I have recently moved and my new GP is crap i have not had a medicatoion review or a check for my diabetes , however i am fortunate enough to do my own.
Also medicine has advanced in recent years and we know much more about drugs than we did before. Some people were prescribed certain drugs when the knowledge we had was that they were safe, current knowledge has superseeded that and we have found them to be addictive or have unwanted side effects. These drugs we have wo wean patients away from.
There is no excuse for the quick fix medicationsand the DOH are attempting to ensure those bad GP's who prescribe quick fix drugs are more accountable for their actions.
The point i am makeing is that we get a huge amount of pressure from the patient to prescribe these medications. Not all patients want to listen to counselling before they start taking medication and some even when explained the adverse effects still demand them and will cause all sorts of problems should you refuse. Some GP will cave in and prescribe for a quiet life, those that would rather go the extra mile with a patient and treat the root cause often get treated with contempt.
I am not talking about chronic diseases but conditions that the patient could help themselves by making life style changes. No one says it is easy but it is possible but we live in a culture that wants instant and easy remedies.
so there are 2 sides to this argument.
No one is knocking anyone with a chronic disease who takes regular medicine, in the way in which it is prescribed and used for what it is intended.
I myself have type 1 diabetes and inject insulin 4 times a day and could not do without it. I have recently moved and my new GP is crap i have not had a medicatoion review or a check for my diabetes , however i am fortunate enough to do my own.
Also medicine has advanced in recent years and we know much more about drugs than we did before. Some people were prescribed certain drugs when the knowledge we had was that they were safe, current knowledge has superseeded that and we have found them to be addictive or have unwanted side effects. These drugs we have wo wean patients away from.
There is no excuse for the quick fix medicationsand the DOH are attempting to ensure those bad GP's who prescribe quick fix drugs are more accountable for their actions.
The point i am makeing is that we get a huge amount of pressure from the patient to prescribe these medications. Not all patients want to listen to counselling before they start taking medication and some even when explained the adverse effects still demand them and will cause all sorts of problems should you refuse. Some GP will cave in and prescribe for a quiet life, those that would rather go the extra mile with a patient and treat the root cause often get treated with contempt.
I am not talking about chronic diseases but conditions that the patient could help themselves by making life style changes. No one says it is easy but it is possible but we live in a culture that wants instant and easy remedies.
so there are 2 sides to this argument.
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