Forget LPG, unreliable and the goverment will put up the tax on it anyway. Remember when diesel was cheaper than petrol?. You can't win whatever you do!.
And just to make matters worse, wee Gordie Broon, when Chancellor, committed to increasing the fuel levy by a further 2p a litre from next April. Chances of Darling going back on that are absolutely zilch.
That's a 10p a gallon loading in old money which is a scandalous increase - don't forget the coffers are already bulging due to VAT collecting 17.5% of an ever-increasing cost.
I just can't understand how Bliar/Brown have been allowed to get away with their robbery policies by the voters for so long. The poll tax was nothing compared to what they have done with:
- selling off the UK's gold reserves at a knockdown price (to comply with an EU mandate - yeah right)
- raiding pension plans
- stealth taxes
- Council Tax doubling in 10 years
Man the barricades brothers and sisters as this could be a very long winter
See article below for experience of someone wrecking new diesel motor.
See this website for list of diesels which cannot be converted and costs for buying conversion kits to do the job properly on other cars / vans.
If the drivers cannot drive from the depot on Saturday, they will have those hours in hand to drive the rest of the weeek.
John
We all attack the government...how about having a go at the oil companies instead...(have you seen their profits??) and using (if we really felt serious) a lot less fuel....the price would soon come down. No, sorry....I'm in cloud cuckoo land here - we are just so car and truck based nowadays we would'nt dream of using less fuel however much it cost. In fact, more and more folk round here are buying even bigger gas-guzzlers to park outside the school gates. Shame.
So how far do we take protesting? if the protesters stop fuel supplies from leaving the depots for to long we have no fuel at the garages & then people cant get to work are people prepared to go that far.
So what do you do when the price of fuel becomes so high, you cant afford to drive to work??
That for many is not that far away! Typical English attitude, sit on the armchair and moan and groan about things, but in reality do nothing? :shock:
If people drove lighter cars they'd use a lot less fuel (assuming most driving is stop start/ round town). The problem with arguing about smaller cars is a modern "small" car is heavier than many older medium cars! On a like for like, an Austin Metro is approx 130kg lighter than the new FIAT 500 - That's roughly 16 percent more weight, and explains why even with its modern engine it's not notably faster than a 1986 MG Metro.
In fact, 930kg is only about 20kg lighter than a 1.3 1984 Montego!
All those leather seats, bottom warmers, power assisted everythings etc add a lot of weight to a car, and more weight needs more energy to get it moving.
As for veg oil - I'm all for it. But many modern common rail injection engines simply cannot run on it - The pumps are designed to run at incredibly tight tolerances in order to provide the massive pressure in teh system. These tolerances are specced with pump diesel, and veg oil has very different properties in terms of viscosity, lubrication etc. Even a fair number of older diesel pumps ingest themselves if run on the wrong fuel for any length of time. So in manufacturers coming up with more efficient (particulate belching) engines they have tied themselves all the more to a finite fuel source.
Fuel cells? Aside from the issues of hydrogen storage and efficient means of converting it to rotary motion, there's the minor issue of getting the hydrogen in the first place. It doesn't grow on trees, and can't be dug out the earth. It's an incredibly energy intensive way of creating a chemical fuel source, and ludicrously a lot of hydrogen currently produced is formed from oil!
I have to have a big truck for my job.
I can have a small van for work and a small car for social so have twice the costs involved, or do what i have just done which is buy the 4x4 which has the weight capacity and the space for all my stuff, but can clean it out inbetween and i have more than 1 space seat to run kids and friends around. If any one can show me how i can do all of that on public transport then fine, but at the end of the day if my fuel costs go up as i pass the extra cost on to my customers as i still need to have a profit margin to survive.
Fine dont do anything about it or say anything but you will end up paying for it in the end in higher trade bills and food cost and other deliveries.
If you shop on line and have your groceries delivered for free, who will pay for the extra fuel costs the supermarket ???? get real it will go on the food.
The problem with putting veg oil in is that it does not have to additives in it that diesel does. If you run a mix of 75%diesel and 25% veg oil is it really worth it?.
If you fit LPG you MUST have a decent system fitted, but most people go for the cheapest and end up having problems. You need to be useing alot of petrol to make LPG a viable alternative.
Don't blame the oil companies, it's the goverment that take all the tax.
& the fuel card that went with it all those Tesco club points 
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about this enough is enough 
are we saying now we should be looking at something like a General strike to force the goverment to cut the price of fuel :?: .
cant remember which is the one you want either
