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Question: Cholesterol-reducing 'products' , is it bollox?

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I have a question :bounce: :bounce:
but its a serious one, I've already Googled it but I'd really like some input and info from people here, advice, views etc welcome :thumbup: and Shoogle is a bit too 'fun' for this cos I'm deadly serious ...ready....
Do Benecol etc type products actually work? I've seen a new one today that claims to lower blood pressure ...at £3 for 4 tiny bottles - you know the ones I mean wink I notice the price difference between 'normal' margerine and these 'we promise to lower cholesterol' type ones...so, are they worth the extra or is it a gimmick? is the 'magic ingredient' available in other food stuff naturally, if so, which? and can anyone give testament that using said products actually worked for them?
And what's with these L casei immunitass thingies? dunno - so far, I get that the one with the friendly bacteria is for the digestive system and the other ones that come in yoghurt drink/ marg and yoghurt products is allegedly good for the heart.
Is it just overpriced sour milk or do they really have some benefit? :dunno:
and yeah I know this is bugger all to do with swinging, but I need to keep Mr Dark breathing let alone swinging lol
I had a bit of a BP & cholesterol prob a few years ago & the doc said "Rethink your whole eating/lifestyle strategy, change your diet", etc, etc not "Carry on eating all the crap you are eating but drink this little bottle as well".
P'raps doc didn't have shares in Danone!!!
Prep your own meals Dark, that's what I learnt.
Too many salty ready-made meals were no good for me.
Don't know if you & Mr. Dark are the same but it's worth trying that. And cheaper. :thumbup:
If your cholesterol levels are borderline then you could use those drinks to manage them (my practise nurse told me that) but if they're high then you must change your diet. If they're very high you'll probably get statins from the doctor too.
It's actually surprisingly easy to reduce your cholesterol with modest diet changes.... I'm living proof of that ;-)
ok, so how the bleedin' ell do they get away with charging like for a tub of margerine? good grief :shock: and more to the point, advertising something so blatantly that's basically a lie?
I hear what you're all saying about diet - we're doing that , tastes like shite though but hey, its gotta be done - its not a cholesterol problem, but a high blood pressure one - which I'm assuming goes hand in hand dunno He's already on medication, but there must be more we can do 'naturally' through diet etc
seriously, all opinions welcome :thumbup:
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ok, so how the bleedin' ell do they get away with charging like for a tub of margerine? good grief :shock: and more to the point, advertising something so blatantly that's basically a lie?
I hear what you're all saying about diet - we're doing that , tastes like shite though but hey, its gotta be done - its not a cholesterol problem, but a high blood pressure one - which I'm assuming goes hand in hand dunno He's already on medication, but there must be more we can do 'naturally' through diet etc
seriously, all opinions welcome :thumbup:

The only thing hun is diet & exercise for Mr Dark. wink
Quote by Darkfire
ok, so how the bleedin' ell do they get away with charging like for a tub of margerine? good grief :shock: and more to the point, advertising something so blatantly that's basically a lie?

It's not exactly a lie.... the two main natural cholesterol reducing extracts are (fuck if I can remember names) an oil extract from soya/rice and something or other which is contained in the white bit of citrus rind. They are proven to reduce production and absorption of cholesterol.... it just depend how much of these are in the products you buy as to how effective they will be. But there are plenty of products which are not always advertised as helping to reduce cholesterol - as has been said soya milk.
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the two main natural cholesterol reducing extracts are (fuck if I can remember names) an oil extract from soya/rice and something or other which is contained in the white bit of citrus rind. They are proven to reduce production and absorption of cholesterol.... .

adds a Smoothie maker to her Xmas list & dreams up a recipe for masking the taste of lemon pith and soya milk :thumbup:
seriously, I am gonna try that. At the mo I'd try anything.
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adds a Smoothie maker to her Xmas list & dreams up a recipe for masking the taste of lemon pith and soya milk :thumbup:

I'm not a great fruit lover. But a smoothy maker is a great way of getting fruit inside me biggrin
Cheapy one from tescos is as good as any as well :D
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a smoothy maker is a great way of getting fruit inside me biggrin

How about bananas? lol
I need to be careful, as to how i can answer that :shock:
So i wont :lol:
no idea about the cholesterol thing but i had a high blood pressure problem last xmas which took about 4 to 5 months to come down, they tried changing my pill to see if that helped, (obviously not an option for mr dark lol) but in the end it came down to diet changes.
the price charges is cos they can, its like all the diet food etc, they do it cos they know they can and there is a market for it
My Dad has the Benecol marg. it assists in keeping his cholesterol low but he has to watch his entire diet as well.
He equates it to changing your milk from full fat to skimmed,iIt all helps in conjunction with other healthier options.
Jas
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i had a high cholestoral level earlier this year and was advised to switch the "that marg" and to benecol drinks which i have stuck to since then..not sure ifi it has worked as my next cholestoral tesat is injanuary....but i agree totally ..the cost of these products is alarming and its no wonder people dont stick with them..
RWL
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ohhhh - tip i forgot - a glass of red wine per day helps....truly it does!!!!!
(thanks for the reminder about it Redwine biggrin )
I wonder how and who regulates claims made by these companies flogging this stuff at crazy prices.
I myself, mainly eat natural foods and ingrediants that are not chemically processed. All meat, fruit & veg is organic & don't drink tea or coffee. Juicing lots of green veg is also good (you'll get used to the taste after a while).
If you really want to correct the godd / bad bacteria in your gut then forget these daft youghurt drinks and get ddoen to your health food shop and get some 'bio-kult' - great stuff.
You should avoid milk anyway - got not even cow's drink it so why do we? You (and kids) can get enough calcium from other things.
What about exercise?
I tend to eat a lot of junk food, but i'm one of the lucky ones that doesnt tend to put on weight!
What my cholesterol count is i havent got a clue.
But the fact that i smoke and dont do any exercise is definately having an affect!
Exercise is a big factor in keepin us healthy whatever we eat!!
It seems typical of our modern society to do what the fook you like as long as there is a pill that will sort it out for you. Taking control of your own body and controlling what you eat, how much exercise you take etc seems to be too much effort for most people. Basically if you look after your body it will look after you.
Eat heathly and get some exercise.
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ohhhh - tip i forgot - a glass of red wine per day helps....truly it does!!!!!
(thanks for the reminder about it Redwine biggrin )

Only really works for females after the menopause :thumbup:
Quote by keeno
It seems typical of our modern society to do what the fook you like as long as there is a pill that will sort it out for you. Taking control of your own body and controlling what you eat, how much exercise you take etc seems to be too much effort for most people. Basically if you look after your body it will look after you.
Eat heathly and get some exercise.

And there endeth the sermon rolleyes
………………joining debate after eating the chicken salad (no dressing of course) and two apples for lunch.
Approx 6 months ago my total cholesterol concentration was about 5 mmol/l, which was ok, but government guidelines changed and so it became ‘not ok’ as I have diabetes. I have taken statins (Simvastatin) since then and it has reduced to 4.5 at the last check in August, which is ok(ish) … but still not ideal.
The statins apparently reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke by a third and coupled with a change in diet and more exercise who knows?
During the last 12 months consultation with doctors, nurses, and dieticians there has been no reference to the benefits of benecol or other ‘healthy’ products on the market …. rather more simply an emphasis on a healthy balanced diet and regular exercise. I tried to push the dietician for an 80%/20% ratio good food to bad, but she said 90%/10% was more like it.
Its nothing you didn’t already know tho’ is it?
Quote by Steve_Mids
It seems typical of our modern society to do what the fook you like as long as there is a pill that will sort it out for you. Taking control of your own body and controlling what you eat, how much exercise you take etc seems to be too much effort for most people. Basically if you look after your body it will look after you.
Eat heathly and get some exercise.

And there endeth the sermon rolleyes
Sorry redface
I didn't mean to sound quite so pompous and preachy surprisedops: :oops:
Quote by keeno
It seems typical of our modern society to do what the fook you like as long as there is a pill that will sort it out for you. Taking control of your own body and controlling what you eat, how much exercise you take etc seems to be too much effort for most people. Basically if you look after your body it will look after you.
Eat heathly and get some exercise.

And there endeth the sermon rolleyes
Sorry redface
I didn't mean to sound quite so pompous and preachy surprisedops: :oops:
lol I was gonna bite, but, you just redeemed youself, so, i'll let you off wink
Now I wasn't going to post this, but I may as well now... Mr Dark has recurring bouts of high blood pressure, we've done the whole no salt thing etc etc etc but made the mistake of slipping back into old habits once the 'problem' went away (smackbottom yeah I know, I dont need a lecture) ... excerise-wise that's nil, but he does a very physical job anyway (which doesnt help the BP & because of the bp level excersise is banned, he's meant to be off work too but being a 'man's man' he wont :roll: ) ....) & he's shagging me, so, well, lets just not go there eh? rotflmao
Anyway, we know all the diet & excerise stuff & have started a whole new 'regime' (again).... but we're talking high Bp that's at a level of " immediate risk of a heart attack", and i need to do something fast - which is why I ask about these produsts . Of course its not about a quick-fix super pill.......but I guess in a way thats what I'm asking for, anything on top of the meds that will help get him out this immediate danger zone within a couple of weeks , the rest will come from, as most have said, a complete change of lifestyle long-term. My main worry is that there may not be a long term at this rate :shock: