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Quote by Kaznkev
So in the early stages of getting to know someone recently we get there mobile with strict instructions only to call between 9 and 4
So which is better on here,the "single" man who isnt or the married man who is honest about the fact his wife doesnt play?
I know what I am begining to think and whilst my morals incline me one way,am wondering why this one piece of dishonesty is a rule for us

because you are basically honest dunno
I hate dishonesty, and would be devastated if my hubby played without my knowledge or consent. He is allowed to play without me, so long as I know about it. I dislike the idea that men swing without their wife's knowledge, but I don't condemn them particularly. No one outside of their marriage truly knows their reasons for doing so. I prefer them to be honest about the fact that they are married/attached, than pretend to be single, but if I fancy them, and trust them, I don't refuse to play with them. I am fairly sure they will be discrete, and won't want more than I'm prepared to give, whereas you sometimes really don't know what you might be getting into with genuinely single guys. I know that in life there are no guarantees, but it works in my head, and I don't have that many meets anyway.
Quote by Kaznkev
So in the early stages of getting to know someone recently we get there mobile with strict instructions only to call between 9 and 4
So which is better on here,the "single" man who isnt or the married man who is honest about the fact his wife doesnt play?
I know what I am begining to think and whilst my morals incline me one way,am wondering why this one piece of dishonesty is a rule for us

because you are basically honest dunno
Yes,but someone who is honest about there attatched status is at least being honest from the start.
They are still being dishonest with their life-partner. Like many people, I have the ability to justify it to myself too if I am so inclined. At other times I find it abhorrent and back away.
you sure he doesn't work shifts? i used to work to and i used to get up about 10am.
if you called me before i woke up i'd be Mr Grumpy all day. :taz:
My partner and I like 3somes (mmf's) but i also meet up with other couples without my partner, she knows about it and is happy to chat on the phone if that needs to be verified. Speaking as a couple I don't think we would be happy with someone who would not be able to do at least what we do.
When you've been married for 37 years and your wife has not wanted sex for over half that period you sometimes feel as if you are single. sad
I don't stick up for infidelity but it happens and sometimes it is the only safety valve for both sexes.
I think I tried to be honest on my profile without writing a self serving life history but I respect other people's standards in this as long as they don't demonise things they don't fully understand.
I do know there are a lot of men here who just want a quick easy legover. Hmmm I suppose that includes me.
*slinks away*
dishonesty is a fairly unattractive quality.
Its in somebodys sig here: "Oh what a tangled web we weave"
If the truth turns me off more than the lie, I would still rather know.
Between 9 and 4, could it be that he is a single parent? Ifso then he should say, but perhaps he is embarrassed to admit it.
I ask this because I'm a single parent and between 9 and 4 would suit me best for phone-calls too, not that I would insist upon that as you know! ;)
Quote by Kaznkev
So in the early stages of getting to know someone recently we get there mobile with strict instructions only to call between 9 and 4
So which is better on here,the "single" man who isnt or the married man who is honest about the fact his wife doesnt play?
I know what I am begining to think and whilst my morals incline me one way,am wondering why this one piece of dishonesty is a rule for us

Just common sense innit guv,
If it don't feel right, don't bite - make your excuses, turn your heels & walk away.
I'm a single guy & I can say with my fb's knowledge that I have me & her time when I don't entertain anyone else.
So if I say to any new swinging meets & cannot chat with them at a certain time I would expect them to honour my simple request!
Does that now mean I am not single?
Do I have to lay bare or feel I have to explain my whereabouts when I am in incommunicado?
But then, how single is single?
For simplicity's sake If a guy or girl has regular meets with a few members SH should he/she give up the single status?
All morals aside maybe its best just to ask why & not assume?
we decided a long time back
we can only be responsible for our own honesty.
you can never be 100% sure of anything anyone
tells you. rolleyes
Well said bear, a concept I may build into my own philosophy.
Although honesty is a big thing for me and that includes being honest with life partners. That said I don't expect a signed certificate of consent from single attached peoples life partners.
at least if the person, male or female, is honest on their profile of their relationship status and the lack of knowledge of their partner, the other party considering whether to play or not can make an informed decision based on their own personal preferences.
those who arent honest take that informed decision away.
I dont play with married men/women who's partner doesnt know, thats my choice, and at least a profile stating they are one or the other, lets me make my choice.
Its not only 'singles' that are dishonest with their partners, i know of a few couples where one half has asked for meets without the others knowledge.
hiya
to be truefull i dont mind meeting married or single men
but must admit the married guys dont pester you like the single 1's do
but its you who decide's who you play with married or single
good luck
jo x
Quote by brucie
sh can be so naive sometimes. its as if youre all living in happyland. must be the meds.
i know several people who are swingers, one or two on here too, who do the whole "we only swing together and with each others approval" thing but happily play away behind their partners' backs. call me an old cynic but very very few people are that honest... especially the ones that feel the need to go on about how honest they are...
real world sale -------------------------->

34 years together here brucie!!! we are as you put it...one of the very few lol :lol:
Quote by Bear69
sh can be so naive sometimes. its as if youre all living in happyland. must be the meds.
i know several people who are swingers, one or two on here too, who do the whole "we only swing together and with each others approval" thing but happily play away behind their partners' backs. call me an old cynic but very very few people are that honest... especially the ones that feel the need to go on about how honest they are...
real world sale -------------------------->

Thirty four years? Blimey that's like, err, two life sentences these days. Well done!! :0)
34 years together here brucie!!! we are as you put it...one of the very few lol :lol:
We have a couple of guys we meet, sometimes they come here, other times we have gone to their place. I tend to believe they are honest in saying they are now single wink
Quote by Bear69
sh can be so naive sometimes. its as if youre all living in happyland. must be the meds.
i know several people who are swingers, one or two on here too, who do the whole "we only swing together and with each others approval" thing but happily play away behind their partners' backs. call me an old cynic but very very few people are that honest... especially the ones that feel the need to go on about how honest they are...
real world sale -------------------------->

34 years together here brucie!!! we are as you put it...one of the very few lol :lol:
30 years here Bear. :thumbup:
Quote by brucie
you never really know though. im not suggesting either of your partners are dishonest, but there is no lack of people who have been dishonest with their partners for 30 years.
or do they only become dishonest if found out?

You are so cynical rotflmao
Quote by Kaznkev
So which is better on here,the "single" man who isnt or the married man who is honest about the fact his wife doesnt play?

Or of course a third option of a married man who is honest about the fact that his wife allows him to play alone.
Quote by fluff_n_stuff
I dislike the idea that men swing without their wife's knowledge,

Surely without the consent of their partner, it can not be classed as swinging ? dunno
Quote by brucie
sh can be so naive sometimes. its as if youre all living in happyland. must be the meds.
i know several people who are swingers, one or two on here too, who do the whole "we only swing together and with each others approval" thing but happily play away behind their partners' backs. call me an old cynic but very very few people are that honest... especially the ones that feel the need to go on about how honest they are...

Quite refreshing to have someone talk about the uncomfortable truths. You would expect people in swinging relationships to not *need* to play away. But I suppose that the facts are that the goalposts just move.
cheers brucie.