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Clare is that really nessessary....everyone has shown concern for you,and the reason they want the munch to continue is to see that your hard work doesn't go to hotels have been booked but it's not about the money,and remember people don't know the reason for you cancelling the munch other than you can't make it,no reason for someone else not to take over.
Sex God
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.
Clare I think people are worried but your post cancelling it was brief and maybe people didn't want to intrude?
Other people are offering to step in and keep the munch going, to minimise the disappointment. I'm sure you'd not want to let everyone down if it could be helped?
Sex God
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.
Clare
I did send Steve a pm and ask if you both were ok...............I also asked if there was anything I could do to help..............
So if the venue is booked, why is there a problem of letting me help you both?
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.
Clare I don't think anyone suggested you missed booking anything, nor has anyone suggested that your hard work did not happen. The thought was that if you were out of the munch for personal reasons then if the event could be saved, even in a cut down version, then this was worth trying to do.
No one is rubbishing your hard work so far, just as most of us will be there, have hotels, and everything else already. Seems a bit silly for those people to not try and put somthing together?
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Right you guys,were extremely honoured by what your all offering so thanks
But no thanks,its personal reasons that weve had to cancel and we havent got the time or the energy to go into it all with someone else,hence the reason its cancelled.
!
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.!
Woah there.......
A number of people expressed concern and offered their assistance if you needed any, so I think your words are a little harsh.
You have already explained that you have neither the time or energy to explain or pass stuff over, you two can't make it so why should everyone else lose out. Some of us have paid out (as with you) so why should everyone lose money that they can little afford, just becuse you two haven't they time or energy to give a reasonable explanation, it would have taken two pm's to ask for a volunteer to take it over and then handing over venue details and any useful information.
There is absolutely no need to get abusive with people Clare! We are concerned about you but you have made it clear that you aren't willing to talk to people
Calista
i understand everyone is dissapointed..........................but i think we should give clare some space for a day or so, im sure it was serious what's happened and she may feel abit pissed off anyway............................................................... maybe this may help
and clare i hope your okay babes
louxxxxxxxxx
and clare i hope your okay babes
louxxxxxxxxx
Quote by equi-princess
Sarah......
I am supposed to be on the definites list and don't see my name..... am i going or not?
Please let me know asap... plus a list of hotels nearby ....
thanks... and i really appreciate all the work being done by people to keep this munch on the road.
equi-princess xxx
It might be a little quicker to do a google search for hotels at the moment...thats what i did.
Sex God
Rather harsh there Clare. If you dont actually give people a good enough reason why you have cancelled the munch, then unfortunately that will always leave room for speculation, esp as there has been no attempt to pass over info re: munch so it can still go ahead.
This definately isnt a case of "Blow you jack, im alright" but more a case of, lets not let all your hard work go to waste.
Fingers crossed your problems are resolved thou xx
This definately isnt a case of "Blow you jack, im alright" but more a case of, lets not let all your hard work go to waste.
Fingers crossed your problems are resolved thou xx
Sex God
Quote by equi-princess
Sarah......
I am supposed to be on the definites list and don't see my name..... am i going or not?
Please let me know asap... plus a list of hotels nearby ....
thanks... and i really appreciate all the work being done by people to keep this munch on the road.
equi-princess xxx
I think Clare told you that the original munch was full?
Who knows now though?
Wasn't going to start a thread on this, but really Clare as you started one (well it got split to one) what did you expect?
Now I was upset you cancelled the munch, not angry, and leapt at the oppertunity to rescue it. I held NO malice towards yourself, only concern for what must have been somthing serious and I wanted to save your hard work, the munch, and your reps by helping save this...
Following your post I am now angry, I feel you are TOTALLY unjustified in your public attack on your friends on here.
Now I was upset you cancelled the munch, not angry, and leapt at the oppertunity to rescue it. I held NO malice towards yourself, only concern for what must have been somthing serious and I wanted to save your hard work, the munch, and your reps by helping save this...
Following your post I am now angry, I feel you are TOTALLY unjustified in your public attack on your friends on here.
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.
Clare, it's hardly surprising that you're getting such a negative reaction, you've put far more effort into telling everyone how pissed off you are with them rather than trying to explain the situation.
All it needed was a pm to one of the many volunteers offering to take over saying "This is the venue and this is the list of people going. Thanks for taking it off our hands". You would then have been free to deal with whatever your problem might be and you'd have had everyone's full support.
I was one of those that made a throw away quip about forgetting to book the venue but to be fair it was the only reason I could see from the explanation given that you couldn't hand over the reigns and concentrate on whatever it is you need to.
Whatever it is that caused you to cancel I hope you manage to resolve for the good. I've never seen anyone on here offer anything but support for people in unhappy situations.
Steve
Sex God
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Firstly we didnt forget to book the venue,and to be honest were more than a little pissed off at the lot of mind the months of hard work and effort we'd put into it all,never mind the dissappointment that were going through.
Tj and Chris are the only people who are worried about us,not the fucking munch,you lot are a bunch of vultures.
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve never mind the act that we will also be out of pocket and had hotel and train tickets bought,at the end of the day there is more to life than loosing a few quid.
Nobody's denying that you don't work hard on the Munches you've organised. It'sbecause you work so hard and the previous Munch was so good that people are so disappointed you've suddenly cancelled this one. You're obviously upset about it, but so are others. For some of us this will/would have been the only Munch we would be attending this year, because of reasons I don't want to go into on an open forum. Which brings me to my next point.
As someone else mentioned above, I assumed that the reason behind the cancellation must be a good one as you're both reasonable, bright people who would not cancel unless it was absolutely necessary. You haven't given a reason and I (and probably most of the others on here) don't want to pry into every aspect of your life,so I didn't ask, but I do understand that it must be major, so I thought I'd leave you to get on with it.
I did say in another post, if you need me, you know where I am so I honestly don't think that I, or anyone else here deserves to be the "whipping-boy" for your problems or stress.
Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go, but I'm not and I hope, whatever the problem is that's got you so upset, you manage to resolve it.
See you guys soon.
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Go ahead and have the munch sod all the work weve done.
I have no idea what all this is about but I want to say something magnanimous and generous here that expresses both my deep respect for Clare & Steve and my shock at seeing them obviously so highly stressed by matters.
Unfortunately, I can't think of anything.
yesterday i kicked off ,i was stressed and perhaps went ott but you lot could have given us some breathing space,rather than jumping on it straight away.
I have sent Sarah all the details,so dont panic,you lot will still have your munch.
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
I have sent Sarah all the details,so dont panic,you lot will still have your munch.
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
Quote by Clare_Lincs
yesterday i kicked off ,i was stressed and perhaps went ott but you lot could have given us some breathing space,rather than jumping on it straight away.
I have sent Sarah all the details,so dont panic,you lot will still have your munch.
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Sex God
Quote by Clare_Lincs
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
That's a first. We've heard just about everything else is the past 
T-J
Sex God
Clare, has sent me a pm with the details, my allocated 'helper' and I are working through these at the moment.
All being well things will be confirm tonight.
Wish Steve and Clare all the best
All being well things will be confirm tonight.
Wish Steve and Clare all the best
Mod
Quote by Clare_Lincs
yesterday i kicked off ,i was stressed and perhaps went ott but you lot could have given us some breathing space,rather than jumping on it straight away.
I have sent Sarah all the details,so dont panic,you lot will still have your munch.
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
You're right Clare, it is nobody's business but your own and everyone, without exception was aware something was wrong and pretty much all offered assistance in one form or another. You just went into a strop because we offered to resolve the problem of the Munch, to take away the stress it was causing you, and thereby help not only you and Steve, but all those who had made plans to attend. We often kick off on here about timewasters, people saying they'll turn up and then don't without any explanation. How do you think you were viewed when you said it's off with no explanation and then saying you can't pass the organising to someone else? I know you did in the end, but why kick off at everyone over it? Don't they have the right to be upset themselves over the cancellation?
You should treat people with the respect you expect to receive yourselves, not kick off at THEM, because YOU have a problem. If you were so stressed that you couldn't spend the time to pass the info over for someone else to deal with it, how come everytime I logged on since you announced this, one of you has been online?
Not sure how this last post should be treated. It certainly isn't an apology and the term 'you lot' doesn't exactly endear you to anyone, does it? Breathing space was offered by loads, you just chose to blank all reasonable offers of help. Why does that make us bad people?
Mal
Orgasminator
i think its all been said and seems like things are going on with the munch, i do think this post should be locked so there is no more stress on steve and claire (hope things get better for ya both)
Love Dave and Jane xxxxxxx
Love Dave and Jane xxxxxxx
Quote by Mal
yesterday i kicked off ,i was stressed and perhaps went ott but you lot could have given us some breathing space,rather than jumping on it straight away.
I have sent Sarah all the details,so dont panic,you lot will still have your munch.
I will not divulge why we had to cancel as it is private personal business that quite frankley is nobodys business on here what goes on in our personal life.
You're right Clare, it is nobody's business but your own and everyone, without exception was aware something was wrong and pretty much all offered assistance in one form or another. You just went into a strop because we offered to resolve the problem of the Munch, to take away the stress it was causing you, and thereby help not only you and Steve, but all those who had made plans to attend. We often kick off on here about timewasters, people saying they'll turn up and then don't without any explanation. How do you think you were viewed when you said it's off with no explanation and then saying you can't pass the organising to someone else? I know you did in the end, but why kick off at everyone over it? Don't they have the right to be upset themselves over the cancellation?
You should treat people with the respect you expect to receive yourselves, not kick off at THEM, because YOU have a problem. If you were so stressed that you couldn't spend the time to pass the info over for someone else to deal with it, how come everytime I logged on since you announced this, one of you has been online?
Not sure how this last post should be treated. It certainly isn't an apology and the term 'you lot' doesn't exactly endear you to anyone, does it? Breathing space was offered by loads, you just chose to blank all reasonable offers of help. Why does that make us bad people?
Mal
Here here, sorry I am all for cutting stress on Clare and Steve, but what they did was unfair and unreasonable. Now I know there is somthing that caused this, and I understand that, and I don't need to know what it is to forget this. However in every other situation like this people have within a few hours made an apology, or at least given some indication of remorse. This is not the first person to hit a bad patch, some people here have faced the worst news and still respected everyone else.
Now I will climb down and apologise to Clare for getting angry last night and posting earlier in this thread. Clare, Steve I leave the door open for you to apologise in return, after your current emergency if you so wish. Either way I will let this drop now, I do not hold grudges.
Orgasminator
Bleeding hell!
What is happening lately? Clare and Steve have been around long enough to know that people don't pry into other people's personal lives unless invited (well most people anyway!).
I think, from what I've read, most people were showing concern without wanting to know details of what was wrong. They just wanted a reason for the cancellation...... and to know why it wasn't being re-organised by someone else.
I wasn't around when the original Munch thread was placed - I would have very much liked to go but as I live down south it would have meant I'd have to arrange travel, accommodation etc etc and if I was on the list I'd be pretty annoyed that it was cancelled with no proper reason and no willingness to hand the reigns over to someone else.
Help was offered, not just with re-organising the Munch.....but general help if Clare and Steve needed it.
I don't know the problems of Clare and Steve and nor do I wish to..... we all have bad things happen and we all deal with them differently! To blast everyone with the same ungratefullness and angryness just isn't right.
I do hope Clare and Steve sort out their problem but I hope they realise that people on SH do care and that doesn't mean they are prying!
What is happening lately? Clare and Steve have been around long enough to know that people don't pry into other people's personal lives unless invited (well most people anyway!).
I think, from what I've read, most people were showing concern without wanting to know details of what was wrong. They just wanted a reason for the cancellation...... and to know why it wasn't being re-organised by someone else.
I wasn't around when the original Munch thread was placed - I would have very much liked to go but as I live down south it would have meant I'd have to arrange travel, accommodation etc etc and if I was on the list I'd be pretty annoyed that it was cancelled with no proper reason and no willingness to hand the reigns over to someone else.
Help was offered, not just with re-organising the Munch.....but general help if Clare and Steve needed it.
I don't know the problems of Clare and Steve and nor do I wish to..... we all have bad things happen and we all deal with them differently! To blast everyone with the same ungratefullness and angryness just isn't right.
I do hope Clare and Steve sort out their problem but I hope they realise that people on SH do care and that doesn't mean they are prying!
Sex God
Quote by onlyme1981
Bleeding hell!
What is happening lately? Clare and Steve have been around long enough to know that people don't pry into other people's personal lives unless invited (well most people anyway!).
I think, from what I've read, most people were showing concern without wanting to know details of what was wrong. They just wanted a reason for the cancellation...... and to know why it wasn't being re-organised by someone else.
I wasn't around when the original Munch thread was placed - I would have very much liked to go but as I live down south it would have meant I'd have to arrange travel, accommodation etc etc and if I was on the list I'd be pretty annoyed that it was cancelled with no proper reason and no willingness to hand the reigns over to someone else.
Help was offered, not just with re-organising the Munch.....but general help if Clare and Steve needed it.
I don't know the problems of Clare and Steve and nor do I wish to..... we all have bad things happen and we all deal with them differently! To blast everyone with the same ungratefullness and angryness just isn't right.
I do hope Clare and Steve sort out their problem but I hope they realise that people on SH do care and that doesn't mean they are prying!
The nottingham munch IS gonig ahead, I have taken over the arrangements to give Clare and Steve time away.
PLease read this
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/47112.html
Orgasminator
The nottingham munch IS gonig ahead, I have taken over the arrangements to give Clare and Steve time away.
PLease read this
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/47112.html
Sorry Sarah.....I know it's going ahead.... was just airing my views!
Well done for taking over!
Hi Nicko
Location details of munches are kept secret and only passed to those on the invite list, getting an invite normally involves meeting certain criteria, like being a member for so long, having x amount of posts, being a known member of the cafe, etc...
As a new starter you will need to get a bit better known then put your name down for a future munch. They are sticikied in the 'Lets Meet Up' forum.
Location details of munches are kept secret and only passed to those on the invite list, getting an invite normally involves meeting certain criteria, like being a member for so long, having x amount of posts, being a known member of the cafe, etc...
As a new starter you will need to get a bit better known then put your name down for a future munch. They are sticikied in the 'Lets Meet Up' forum.
Sex God
Quote by elnicko
New member here,
Where and when is this munch, and how do I get an invite?
Just two of many questions charging rond my head.
Answers on a postcard to.......
Nicko
Munch is a social gathering and this one's in Nottingham. As for getting an invite, you'll have needed to join on or before the 30th April 2005.
List is full now anyway, but stick around, there's always socials happening, so as soon as you get known round here you'll be eligble for an invite. :cheers:
