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Quote by Clare_Lincs
So Steve has no clothes now then ? :twisted:
Any excuse to have him walking around naked for your pleasure you rude girl lol

No actually just old books and shoes and my old clothes not a scrap of Steves stuff actually!!
Talking about charity at home,i read in the paper the other day that they had reopened the millenium dome to let in 15,000 homeless people in for shelter,but theyre only doing it over christmas and they are to be kicked out again onto the streets wheres the sense in that?Why not just keep it open all year round??
The Millenium Dome thing is part of Crisis at Christmas, a charity which EVERY year for the past umpteen has opened a temporary refuge for the homeless in some part of London. This year the Dome was empty and they were allowed to use it. A lot of people living on the street choose it that way and don't really want to be back in a house/flat/bedsit, the same way that some travellers don't want permanent residences, but are grateful for the compmany, the healthcare and the food given out over the 10 day Crisis at Christmas interval. Incidentally I believe that there were 6 other warehouses opened by Crisis at the same time in other areas too.
Coping with sustained poverty is one problem we all have to be aware of, however a devastating and unforeseen (and unavoidable) natural disaster such as this must become everyones moral duty to assist with, in whatever small way possible. You thank your god that you have a roof over your head, drinking water on demand, sanitation and comfort and then do what you can for those who have had these things ripped away from them and wrapped in death and destruction.
The scope of the event defies belief.
Imagine overnight every single house in England destroyed. Nothing but rubble. Every road, every railway, every shop, every factory, every vehicle, gone.
Tens of millions of people standing around thinking. What the fuck do I do now?
That is about the size of it.
lhk
We`ll be donating a fiver, can`t use a bankcard cos we can`t have one since our finances are screwed, so we`ll just have to find a collection box. On the 15th we were in court for eviction, and there was a very real chance we could have lost our home and ended up on a caravan site. The case has been ajourned until the 8th Feb. We`ll get to keep the house because of this years events (tough year) and we are working with a debt charity, but know matter what our situation is, I know we are lucky enough to be living in a country where if the worse comes to the worse, we won`t be looking at complete homelessness and all the diseases the people who have been hit by this disaster are looking at.
So I`m damn well going to make sure we can spare a fiver.
Venusxxx
Anyone else who doesn't have a bank card, you can probably pop into a bank and donate money free of charge - if you don't have one close to you then you can do it free of charge at the post office too (I work there part time so I can tell you this for a fact).
If they don't already know how, just ask for a Trans-cash form and put "FP 1325" in the account number boxes, you can use the reference "Tsunami Earthquake appeal" just fill in the amount and your details sign it and let the clerk do their bit and stamp it for you.
Btw, the "FP" stands for FreePay so there's no charge for it (unlike paying some other bills eg. some water/electric utilities, when the company you're paying won't pay the Post Office to do the work for them so we have to charge a fee). All the money will go on to the appeal.
Just mentioning this as a public service, seeing as how there's probably still more PO's than banks around (even if they do shut half the small ones, the basts).
Thankyou! That was really helpful, not only do I not have a bankcard, I also live three miles from town, so the PO info was valuable too smile
Venusxxx
Never mind me just bumping this up incase anyone wants to donate biggrin
I've just been to Tesco and they have collection boxes at the tills for all your loose change to go towards Tsunami disaster.
I hasten to add, I didn't come home with any change in my purse or Ians pockets.
Dawn
I think when things like this happen, 'we' have to stop thinking about ourselves and do what's right and humane so the money donated by the government and the public is money well spent.
It does just go to show though that the money IS there to sort out our hospitals, transport and other internal problems but bureacracy and politics of course gets in the way as always!
Did anyone else think it was amazingly insensitive of the BBC to broadcast that edition of Changing Rooms which they did in Boscastle, practically the very next day after the events overseas???
Can I just say that I agree with both Steve-Shireen and Clare_lincs. Disasters tend to overshadow those at home who need our help constantly. I am a supporter of shelter and tend to donate all my stuff to their charity shops. I don't normally donate to Oxfam because I have seen Oxfam stuff being SOLD on the streets back home. But is it too much to ask to donate a couple of extra pounds to the Tsunami victims? I am sure most of you, like myself, have gone and drawn out money, or bought a bottle for tonight. So what about donating a bit of what would normally go "down the toilet" to people who need it? Some years back when I was a student we had massive floods in South Africa. I saw then, first hand, what natural distasters to to poor areas. As students we had no money but we donated our hands (okay - not literally - but u know what I mean!) - and I know that those people were grateful for even the tiniest things we were able to do. Even a small donation goes some way to helping!
As you may have noticed I dont post much these days but this is one subject that I do tend to get fired up about....
Please note that this is MY point of view and not just standing beside my husband on this one and like him I will more than likely get slated for it but hey ho....
There is far too much poverty, child abuse, homelessness etc in THIS country that isn't being addressed by the government.... The hospitals are a shambles, education is pathetic and there just isn't the resources to cope with the elderly in this country, and this knowledge is from personal experience..... Earlier this year my Grandfather went into hospital with a water infection, he came out in a coffin!!..... And the bitch is??.... WE pay for this service!!.... The government waste exuberant amounts of money every year along with the local councils and then expect charities to pick up the rest of the tab.... I'm sorry but I would rather give to a charity where the money goes to the people of THIS country.
Now this doesn't detract from the fact that I am moved by the plight of the people who have been affected by this disaster but the phrase "Charity begins at home" speaks volumes to me.... We are all so quick to give to "Children in need" etc but they dont always give to the children in THIS country that need the financial help as much as the children in say Africa....
I currently have a huge bag of clothes that our children have grown out of and it will be donated to a charity shop that caters for people/children's needs in THIS country and not ones abroad.... Call me heartless if you like but sorry that's my opinion...
I would just like to add a little footnote in respone to Venus's posting... (not getting at ya hun kiss )
Quote by VenusnMars
I know we are lucky enough to be living in a country where if the worse comes to the worse, we won`t be looking at complete homelessness

Alas that isn't entirely true.... It is possible to be homeless even with children..... I know having been in the situation myself just over 9 years ago..... I had to flee the family home with a child of 18 months old and the council/housing associations didn't want to know... We had to sleep on the floor of a friends house until we could get into court and get him thrown out..... I hope to god that you dont loose your home as we know all too well the problems connected with financial situations and we send a :kiss: to you both....
Shireen
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((((((Shireen)))))) Thanks hun, we were in a situation where the council/housing associations wouldn`t have helped either, if the worst had come to the worst. You should have been backed up by the various charities in this country who make cases like yours a priority, like `Shelter` or the various womens hostels we have. I`m so sorry that did not happen for you.
I think most people are touched by the scale of this disaster, and how it is snowballing, and when that happens we tend to think more in terms of `humankind` rather than `countrykind` (for want of a better word) , which isn`t neccesarily wrong. The aid these people receive will have a huge influence on curbing the aftermath of this one off devastation. However, I agree that we should never stop caring about those in this country also. I hope we all have the capacity to offer support to both, and I respect all those who have taken the time to remind us all of the issues facing those in this country also. :love:
Venusxxx
So the british public have now raised £60,000, :!: Its astonishing,each of you individually can make a difference.
Have you donated yet?Or are you troo busy enjoying your luxuries over christmas and new year while there is people dying?
Quote by VenusnMars
I know we are lucky enough to be living in a country where if the worse comes to the worse, we won`t be looking at complete homelessness and all the diseases the people who have been hit by this disaster are looking at.
So I`m damn well going to make sure we can spare a fiver.

Considering your situation Venus, that is very generous of you. As I have said elsewhere, charity should go to where it is most needed.
Quote by shireen-steve
Now this doesn't detract from the fact that I am moved by the plight of the people who have been affected by this disaster but the phrase "Charity begins at home" speaks volumes to me.... We are all so quick to give to "Children in need" etc but they dont always give to the children in THIS country that need the financial help as much as the children in say Africa....

I've just looked at the Children In Need website, & it would appear that none of the money donated goes to overseas charities, so that will be excellent news for you. The trouble is that most charitable giving in this country is to UK charities, & rarely to overseas ones. Look at the back of a charity Christmas card & you rarely see an overseas charity mentioned because most people in this country think the same as you do. This disaster is an exception due to the media coverage. The need is there at other times, but without the shock effect of media coverage, it is ignored because people are not interested.
So why is it that you don't want your money to be used to help people in other countries. Perhaps you feel no connection with those people, or its because they look different, speak a different language. When I see the news footage, I see people in need. The fact that they have a different culture, & live a long way away is irrelevant. They need our help, & thankfully on this occasion, you are clearly in the minority.
Quote by shireen-steve
I currently have a huge bag of clothes that our children have grown out of and it will be donated to a charity shop that caters for people/children's needs in THIS country and not ones abroad.... Call me heartless if you like but sorry that's my opinion...

OK then, you are heartless.
Quote by shireen-steve
It is possible to be homeless even with children.....

That is true of every country in the world. While I am sorry to hear of your troubles, & the death of your relative, the fact remains that the standard of living in this & many other countries is much higher than in those currently suffering the worst effects of this disaster.
Whatever you think about the UK health service, at least we have some sort of health service, whereas many of these areas have no infrastructure of any kind at present. And after the initial period of emergency relief is over, they will continue to need assistance for quite some time to rebuild their infrastructure, & replace what individuals have lost to enable them to earn a living. As I mentioned above, thankfully not everyone is as uncaring as you.
Don't aurgue over this rolleyes
We are all free to give what little we can afford to places we feel the need is best.
The fact we try to help others if the most important thing here, not who gives to which charity.
We personally are firm believers that charity begins at home and we do give every week!
However this is different, Tsunami is a world changing event that is a one off. Its caused devastation through a natural event.
Its a cause we have given to dunno
Dawn
Been waiting to hear on friends over there .... and today they are back safely x
They stayed over to help in Sri Lanka but are planning to go back shortly and carry on.
Will pass on any advice on what sorts of things are most lacking (apart from everything) - I think she will start an appeal up at school to support that particular region too.
As for where our money goes .... we have the choice and that is what matters.
Cathy x
HungryP flipa You dont have the slightest notion of what I am on about do you???...
I cant be bothered to respond in any length about this but like I said when I was in that position I wasn't offered any help at all and my son and I only had the clothes we were dressed in at the time we fled the house.... I know what it's like to be in the position where you cannot provide a home or food for your child so dont get on your flucking high horse and preaching to me...
The fact that they have a different culture, & live a long way away is irrelevant.

And????? WTF has that got to do with it???? I didn't say I wouldn't give to them because of their culture..... MY point is that there are just as many people in THIS country that require help, are you going to give to their plight as well???...... What about the elderly, the abused, the starving????? They exist in this country as well..... It's not exclusive to third world countries...
Oh and just so as you know HungryP...... I am actually Australian so I can relate to those people as they were actually my neighbours so to speak......
Shireen
Oh FFS here we go again.
If you wanna give then give. If you don't, don't.
Just stop shouting about it from the mountain tops.
Isn't it best to give without looking for the glory?
Quote by shireen-steve
HungryP flipa You dont have the slightest notion of what I am on about do you???...

Pm'ed.
Quote by Libra-Love
Oh FFS here we go again.
If you wanna give then give. If you don't, don't.
Just stop shouting about it from the mountain tops.
Isn't it best to give without looking for the glory?

Whats glory got to do with obviously feel passionate about it in their own whole point of the thread was to make people as aware as possible,not to start an argument and definately sod all about glory.
If you've taken afront to my *glory* comment perhaps a pm would have cleared that one up. Considering that wasn't the route you chose I've nothing more to say to you Clare.
The scary thing is that a natural disaster doesn't end after one event.
The Tsunami was just the beginning, we're gonna see alot more hapen around the world, before it goes back to normal.
Quote by Libra-Love
If you've taken afront to my *glory* comment perhaps a pm would have cleared that one up. Considering that wasn't the route you chose I've nothing more to say to you Clare.

Perhpas as you made the comment here on the thread then perhaps it wasnt wrong of me to reply to it here on the thread.I cant believe youve taken offence to a reply to a comment you yourself have made. rolleyes
Quote by Clare_Lincs
If you've taken afront to my *glory* comment perhaps a pm would have cleared that one up. Considering that wasn't the route you chose I've nothing more to say to you Clare.

Perhpas as you made the comment here on the thread then perhaps it wasnt wrong of me to reply to it here on the thread.I cant believe youve taken offence to a reply to a comment you yourself have made. rolleyes
:roll: My comment wasn't even directed at you to start with, but obviously it hit a little too close to home and you took umbridge.
Read back and you may actually see why I made the comment I did.
For now, I'm all done with the self-righteous thanks.
I wont be back on this thread. So save your response to this post.
Crikey, what the hell happened here?! :shock:
Obviously everyone on this thread cares about others less fortunate than themselves. Some support causes which are closer to thier hearts than others, but support we do. Whether people choose to support those in this country, or those in others, at the end of the day they are all helping people. Perhaps our gripe should be towards those who take take take, and who care for nothing but themselves..........
BTW, I also support animal charities, so where the crap that leaves me I dread to think :shock:
Venusxxx
And OMG, if that`s Libra in her AV, and she`s not coming back, I`m going to have to chase her to whatever other thread she`s posting on!
Libra, consider yourself stalked! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by VenusnMars
BTW, I also support animal charities, so where the crap that leaves me I dread to think :shock:
Venusxxx

Venus, Is that UK or worldwide animal charities ?
xx
Del
Ok......a question to those who don't wanna give to the foriegn victims.....how would you deal with a distaster on our own doorstep? I would hope other countries would come to our aid. Supply food water, sanitation, medical supplies all the very basic needs to keep me and my family alive. Yes wo do have very poor familes here and very rich ones to. But surely we can all see this it totaly different. its not politcal, not terrorist. Just total bad fucking luck that they live in that part of the world and are totaly desperate for any help at all. Maybe not all the money gets through to them we don't know that for sure all i do know is that I will be taking some money and my children have asked to send their pocket money to help them. Will also spend a little time reflecting although I'm not a god person. Sometimes we just need something to blame. So peace and good will to everyone and I hope we never see another disaster like this ever again.
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BTW, I also support animal charities, so where the crap that leaves me I dread to think :shock:
Venusxxx

Venus, Is that UK or worldwide animal charities ?l
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WTF is this,we are not political so have no hidden agenda,all Clare wants is the same as most other people out there and thats for people to be safe and secure.
We are very lucky here in Britain,we live far away from any areas that will ever be affected by arent a rich famly by any means but we do what we can to help others when it matters.
Everyone out there should take a good look around themselves and see just what we have and what the poor unfortunate ones in SE Asia and Africa live like kings compared to them,so for once in your lives step back and think for one minute what it would be like to be in the hell hole of the world.
Its about time we all stopped being so selfish and distructive and started to help the people all around us who need help.