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And that the prayer session which was used by the supply teacher before lunch as a (get this!) "control exercise to calm the children down" (WTF!) - his words, not mine - to be replaced with something more appropriate.
why don't they do what japanese workers do to get rid of their frustration and "calm them down". They have a room in the workplace with a load of punchbags hanging from the ceiling, get some baseball bats and beat the crap out of them. :sparring: Works for them, no disruptive workers
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Good result by the way !
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Really pleased you found a satisfactory compromise. Well done for sticking to your guns, unfortunately schools and education authorities tend to beleive they 'rule' your children and not you.
Very rarely do parents challange teachers and schools, maybe its time other people took a leaf out of your book.
There are some schools and teachers who support and fight to help pupils and parents, unfortunately these are few and far between.
Kaz
Very rarely do parents challange teachers and schools, maybe its time other people took a leaf out of your book.
There are some schools and teachers who support and fight to help pupils and parents, unfortunately these are few and far between.
Kaz
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I'm very pleased to hear this De Sade. I'd say that the message you have taught your son throughout this situation will be very valuable to him in later life.
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Quote by kazswallows
Really pleased you found a satisfactory compromise. Well done for sticking to your guns, unfortunately schools and education authorities tend to beleive they 'rule' your children and not you.
Very rarely do parents challange teachers and schools, maybe its time other people took a leaf out of your book.
There are some schools and teachers who support and fight to help pupils and parents, unfortunately these are few and far between.
Kaz
My school and education authority don't believe that they rule your children and I can honestly say that that has been the case in all of the schools in which I have worked. We have to operate within a set of guidelines laid down by the government but that doesn't extend to 'ruling' anyone.
Believe me, it's very common for parents to challenge teachers and schools; this happened to me on Wednesday when I had to deal with an incident involving the supply teacher who taught my class for the afternoon.
The majority of schools will, and do, fight to support parents and children in any way they can. This applies to all schools, whether special schools or plain old 'normal' schools. Sorry Kaz, those statements are far too sweeping.
, good for you - I'm very pleased for you that this was a relatively successful outcome. I bet your son is relieved to have his SATs out of the way isn't he?
Just an echo of what Frecklebird wrote - we work very hard with the parents of our pupils and confront all problems head on. My headteacher is great and is able to soothe the most ruffled of parental feathers or, on the other hand, send them packing with a flea in their ear - whichever is APPROPRIATE.
Don't knock all schools and all teachers, some of us are very caring, compassionate and go the extra mile to help those who need it/want it/don't think they need or want it. One dodgy supply teacher doesn't a whole profession make.
Rock on Teach!!
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Don't knock all schools and all teachers, some of us are very caring, compassionate and go the extra mile to help those who need it/want it/don't think they need or want it. One dodgy supply teacher doesn't a whole profession make.
Rock on Teach!!
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I never knew you were a teacher Jags.
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I never knew you were a teacher Jags.
There are obviously more swinging teachers than we realised.
Rock on swinging teachers... :)
Amen to that
:shock: just realised how crass that looks, considering the subject of the thread was about prayers
Sorry, wasn't intentional. Quote by freckledbird
My school and education authority don't believe that they rule your children and I can honestly say that that has been the case in all of the schools in which I have worked. We have to operate within a set of guidelines laid down by the government but that doesn't extend to 'ruling' anyone.
Believe me, it's very common for parents to challenge teachers and schools; this happened to me on Wednesday when I had to deal with an incident involving the supply teacher who taught my class for the afternoon.
The majority of schools will, and do, fight to support parents and children in any way they can. This applies to all schools, whether special schools or plain old 'normal' schools. Sorry Kaz, those statements are far too sweeping.
Point taken fecklebird, I appreciate that there a good teacher/schools and bad teachers/schools.
Maybe its just the case of a few bad apples giving everybody else a bad name.
In my experience the bad guys far outway the good guys in both special and 'normal' schools. Being a counsellor for parents who have problems with the authority and schools, as well as being a govenor I tend to only hear the bad side of things.
Unfortunately the problems de sade has had seem to be common.
I do appreciate as well that teachers/schools have their hands tied when trying to deal with matters and the ones that try to fight against it find their hands severly slapped or worse.
Saying all that I DO know some of you are the tops and deserve a medal for some of the things you have to deal with on a daily basis.
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I never knew you were a teacher Jags.
I keep it hidden... but you need to ask FredFlinstone about the time he and I were talking on the phone!! I asked him to hold a minute and then SHOUTED 'get your bike out of the corridor'!!
He almost collapsed, year 10 boy got his eardrums burst and and hours' detention!! Funny though!
How could you have missed my posts about school?? Go and read them immediately!!
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Sorry miss :lol: Kaz - in your position all you will hear is the bad stuff! The coal face (TM Tim) has some wonderful times too. I can't tell you how much some of my pupils mean to me and how they lift my spirits on a dull and dreadful day.
We had a colours evening recently and I almost wept at the achievements of some of those pupils whose home lifes are shite, underloved, undernourished and under appreciated, and yet they are achieving some amazing things which made me proud to have even a tiny weeny part in their learning.
Remember - teaching and learning are very different things.
OK - end of lecture, I'm off to open a bottle of wine and retire to the GFZ.
We had a colours evening recently and I almost wept at the achievements of some of those pupils whose home lifes are shite, underloved, undernourished and under appreciated, and yet they are achieving some amazing things which made me proud to have even a tiny weeny part in their learning.
Remember - teaching and learning are very different things.
OK - end of lecture, I'm off to open a bottle of wine and retire to the GFZ.
Sex God
In my experience the bad guys far outway the good guys in both special and 'normal' schools. Being a counsellor for parents who have problems with the authority and schools, as well as being a govenor I tend to only hear the bad side of things.
Unfortunately the problems de sade has had seem to be common.
If you're a counsellor, you're bound to see the bad side of everything, otherwise you wouldn't have a job. Some people will always have a problem with authority and/or schools, regardless of how good or bad that school or authority is.
Governors don't always hear the bad side of things; surely they have some good to report, or the school would be closed?
The problems had aren't that common;schools have to provide collective worship but that doesn't mean you have to be involved. In this instance, it was a supply teacher who was wrong - NOT the school.
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As i said
Yes children are amazing and they deserve the best as they give so much asking little in return
As i said
Saying all that I DO know some of you are the tops and deserve a medal for some of the things you have to deal with on a daily basis.
Kaz - in your position all you will hear is the bad stuff! The coal face (TM Tim) has some wonderful times too. I can't tell you how much some of my pupils mean to me and how they lift my spirits on a dull and dreadful day.
Yes children are amazing and they deserve the best as they give so much asking little in return
Sex God
Quote by freckledbird
Really pleased you found a satisfactory compromise. Well done for sticking to your guns, unfortunately schools and education authorities tend to beleive they 'rule' your children and not you.
Very rarely do parents challange teachers and schools, maybe its time other people took a leaf out of your book.
There are some schools and teachers who support and fight to help pupils and parents, unfortunately these are few and far between.
Kaz
My school and education authority don't believe that they rule your children and I can honestly say that that has been the case in all of the schools in which I have worked. We have to operate within a set of guidelines laid down by the government but that doesn't extend to 'ruling' anyone.
Believe me, it's very common for parents to challenge teachers and schools; this happened to me on Wednesday when I had to deal with an incident involving the supply teacher who taught my class for the afternoon.
The majority of schools will, and do, fight to support parents and children in any way they can. This applies to all schools, whether special schools or plain old 'normal' schools. Sorry Kaz, those statements are far too sweeping.
I completely agree. I too work in a boarding school and the school I work at wouldn't exist if we didn't work closely with the families/carers or other governing organisations. A setting such as mine would come completely insular and wouldn't benefit the child in any way, shape or form.
S xx
Firstly, well done in getting a successful reolution.
My experience with teachers is that thereare more than a fair share who "know best" about almost everything and who cannot listen. Pupils are some sort of lower lofe-form.
Its not as bad as it used to be but no doubt serious in some schools.
My experience with teachers is that thereare more than a fair share who "know best" about almost everything and who cannot listen. Pupils are some sort of lower lofe-form.
Its not as bad as it used to be but no doubt serious in some schools.
Sex God
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Firstly, well done in getting a successful reolution.
My experience with teachers is that thereare more than a fair share who "know best" about almost everything and who cannot listen. Pupils are some sort of lower lofe-form.
Its not as bad as it used to be but no doubt serious in some schools.
Your experience? Maybe they just didn't want to listen to you for a reason? Maybe they did know best at that particular time? I think you will find that the majority of teachers do not treat children as a 'lower lifeform'. No doubt all schools have their individual problems but your comments are also very sweeping.
My comments are not intended to be a sweeping generalisartion - for the record, the majority of teachers are not in my category but there are a noticable minority who are.
As far as my personal experience is concerned, an open board is not the place to discuss matters, but note my comments - some schools will suffer more than others. Just the way of life as I se it!
As far as "not listening to me for a reason", this has been a minority, but someone who will not listen differs from someone who does, but decides to discard whatever they hear on the basis of other considerations. The former are a problem, the latter not (necessarily).
As far as my personal experience is concerned, an open board is not the place to discuss matters, but note my comments - some schools will suffer more than others. Just the way of life as I se it!
As far as "not listening to me for a reason", this has been a minority, but someone who will not listen differs from someone who does, but decides to discard whatever they hear on the basis of other considerations. The former are a problem, the latter not (necessarily).
