Well World Aids day has been and gone, the new government safe sex ads underway too.
Yet looking at some of the porpositions here about anal/bareback etc if this is representative then a lot of people have a blase attitude to sexual infections.
We enjoy sex with multiple partners from time to time and stay well because we never ever take risks!
I'm not sure everyone is so careful - what do you think?
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Well World Aids day has been and gone, the new government safe sex ads underway too.
Yet looking at some of the porpositions here about anal/bareback etc if this is representative then a lot of people have a blase attitude to sexual infections.
We enjoy sex with multiple partners from time to time and stay well because we never ever take risks!
I'm not sure everyone is so careful - what do you think?
I'm sure if you compared the figures, there would be only a small proportion requesting anal or any other unprotected sex. I don't think they are representative of the site other than they are other criteria which some people specify. Their choice. I'm sure there are people who do take the risk and who also stay well though.
You might want to do a search to find similar topics - it's covered quite frequently.
If people want to take those risks thats their choice and anything anyone else says won't make a difference when they've already made that, we as individuals take risks everyday whether it be by smoking, drinking, driving, flying or even crossing a road without looking, these things are more likely to kill you than Aids. We can only take our own precautions and judging others who don’t wont make the slightest difference, but i would like to point out that Aids goes a lot further than unprotected sex although i agree it does play a major part so it's a really hard one to comment on, it's like saying that if nobody smoked there wouldn't be cancer and we all no the answer to that, its like everything else in this day and age we only get to hear the facts they want us to hear and that goes for any subject.
I think it's fine as long as everyone involved is aware of the risks. That way it's your own fault if you get your cock stuck in a timelock or something.
Trying to remember "two to the right, eight to the left..." etc whilst having your vitals crushed between two slabs of blast-proof steel is nigh on impossible.
Cheers
CotN
Trying to remember "two to the right, eight to the left..." etc whilst having your vitals crushed between two slabs of blast-proof steel is nigh on impossible.
Cheers
CotN
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I think it's fine as long as everyone involved is aware of the risks. That way it's your own fault if you get your cock stuck in a timelock or something.
Trying to remember "two to the right, eight to the left..." etc whilst having your vitals crushed between two slabs of blast-proof steel is nigh on impossible.
Cheers
CotN
Oh thats ok i don't have a cock. does that make me immune then
:lol: :lol: Quote by Cock of the North
I think it's fine as long as everyone involved is aware of the risks. That way it's your own fault if you get your cock stuck in a timelock or something.
Trying to remember "two to the right, eight to the left..." etc whilst having your vitals crushed between two slabs of blast-proof steel is nigh on impossible.
Cheers
CotN
:shock: :shock: :shock:
am i missing something here?
NN i have always enjoyed your rant etc in the forums, however i think i risk your rath as i SERIOUSLY disagree with your below position. The question as i understand it, is not about the type of seX one involve in but rather wether or not one is responsible enough to be safe about it. As a community i think we should be at the forefront in promoting SAFE sex. I take it we all want to be aroung swinging for a very long time. :arrow:
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what do i think?
i think as adults we know the risks we take and if we decide to take risks thats noones buisness but our own, guess what i'm trying to say is what they do is none of my buisness so i don't really have a opinion on it
I think you'll find that promoting safe sex isn’t the same as condoning unprotected sex and if promoting safe sex involves butting in to other peoples business then im not for promoting it, like said before you can only advise people to have safe sex anything else is up to the said individual, oh and by the way im not ignorant to the fact of aids and regard my health highly and will use condoms for penetrative sex, but having unprotected sex doesn’t guarantee you aids or sti’s it may increase the risks but you could have unprotected sex for the rest of your life with multiple partners and you still can’t guarantee aids (not recommended) I think you’ll also find that if everyone performed safe sex our race would wither away and die. and although most of us admit to using condoms for penetrative sex most also admit to having oral sex without protection (i do) and although the risks may be somewhat lower they are still there so that isn’t promoting safe sex either is it? I think the only way to gaurantee safe sex is not to have sex at all, And diesel I agree with naughty it is their business not ours are you suggesting otherwise?
I think all we can do is look after ourselves and that way if somebody else hasnt been as careful then hopefully it`s not likely to affect us as well.
I always make casual partners wear a condom and I have one partner who doesnt wear them with me although I trust him and know that he wears them with other women. But having said that, we know we have to be responsible for the decisions we make and if something goes wrong then we both have to go and sort it out at the doc`s pronto.
I certainly dont feel I could bury my head in the sand and ignore the risks.
I always make casual partners wear a condom and I have one partner who doesnt wear them with me although I trust him and know that he wears them with other women. But having said that, we know we have to be responsible for the decisions we make and if something goes wrong then we both have to go and sort it out at the doc`s pronto.
I certainly dont feel I could bury my head in the sand and ignore the risks.
It scares the shit out of me... being with my other half for 9 years now I kind of take it for granted. In light of the recent STD adverts these infections are obviously on the up again. When swinging tho' safe sex is a must even if you have been swinging with the couple for a while and trust them, I just couldn't take that risk myself.
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........its like everything else in this day and age we only get to hear the facts they want us to hear and that goes for any subject.
Just want to reply to this statement; the facts are freely available to the public via the HPA website, the latest UK statistics can be found here;
Yes, the info is from the previous year, but this is because the statistics have to be compiled before the report can be written and published.
You can also keep up to date with National Public Health Bulletin, published weekly at
Les x
I knew you wouldnt be far away from this one Les :thumbup:
Me, I have nothing really to add to this as its all been done before..... but I am of the oppinion that while 'what other people do is their business', unfortunately - and especially here within the community, it's also tomorrows partner's problem.
Tip :idea: Advertising for bareback has its uses ShavedandReady, you read the ad, note the name , and dont touch with a sterile bargepole, ever
Me, I have nothing really to add to this as its all been done before..... but I am of the oppinion that while 'what other people do is their business', unfortunately - and especially here within the community, it's also tomorrows partner's problem.
Tip :idea: Advertising for bareback has its uses ShavedandReady, you read the ad, note the name , and dont touch with a sterile bargepole, ever
its entirely the own persons choice and we take risks all of the time i go to the clap clinic every few months for a check up and dont mind admitting it i would rather no im safe and clean cos even with the best of precautions things still can go wrong condoms can split etc. some people love the risk thats up to them if you dont like it dont go there simple as
Couple_ne2000 As I said I’m aware of the facts of Aids, my point is it’s always associated with sex and nothing else just like cancer is always associated with smoking, it’s a virus and it has to start somewhere so unless you use condoms for penetrative sex always and that even includes with your own partner then the risk is still present even if less likely, My best friend has HIV and I’ve seen first hand what it does and the effect it has on people as she now only has a handful of friends, she was involved in a serious car accident around 4 years ago and contracted HIV through a blood transfusion, and although it was a few months before she became aware she had contracted HIV she and her husband had obviously been having unprotected sex as they had been trying for a family, but luckily enough his test came back negative even though they had been having unprotected sex for months, so as I said I am aware of Aids and my friend I see almost daily has to live with it, my point is everyone assumes its only sex related, and at no point was I condoning unprotected sex I was only pointing out that doing so doesn’t guarantee Aids or an STI, Everyone that actively swings with multiple partners whether using condoms or not is taking a huge health gamble, condoms aren’t fail safe and have been known to fail so everyone out there that actively swing with multiple partners are taking serious risks themselves so jumping on people who increase the risk is no more than double standards, perhaps if you feel that strongly about the subject then you should seriously consider whether swinging is for you, because whatever way you look at it swinging and health risks go hand in hand and anyone who thinks differently should take there head out of the sand.
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I think it's fine as long as everyone involved is aware of the risks. That way it's your own fault if you get your cock stuck in a timelock or something.
Trying to remember "two to the right, eight to the left..." etc whilst having your vitals crushed between two slabs of blast-proof steel is nigh on impossible.
Cheers
CotN
:laughabove: brill classic
ok so i was the only one to get this god my hummor must be warped :shock:
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so jumping on people who increase the risk is no more than double standards, perhaps if you feel that strongly about the subject then you should seriously consider whether swinging is for you, because whatever way you look at it swinging and health risks go hand in hand and anyone who thinks differently should take there head out of the sand.
I haven't jumped on anyone - and I'm not saying that you've suggested I have. (That did make sense to me
)Anyway I only have safe sex - and yes there will still be a risk. However just because I swing I don't think I have double standards. If I see a married man seeking discreet bareback without his wifes knowledge I'll still think he's a :censored: no matter how many people I choose to screw using a condom/dam.
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If I see a married man seeking discreet bareback without his wifes knowledge I'll still think he's a :censored: no matter how many people I choose to screw using a condom/dam.
That's a totally different matter and even if he isn't advertising bareback he's still a :censored: as his partner still hasn't been made aware and has no choice in the matter even though theres still risks involved. and kiss my point may have come accross wrong but what i was trying to say is everyone who swings with multiple partners is taking a risk so picking out people who increase the risk won't make the slightest bit of difference you can only carry on taking your own precautions rather than expect others to do that for you.
As has already been said - using a condom for penetration does not remove all risk and we are all adults and can make our own choices about what is an acceptable risk to us.
What does amaze me are the people who are taking some precaution and accepting there remains some risk... yet don't go and get checked out at all.
The times I have heard people say that they know they are clear because they have no symptoms - as if all STI's and blood born viruses have immediate noticeable symptoms (if any at all).
To anyone who thinks that they must be clear as long as there isn't green discharge oozing out of them - I would ask this...
Do you know what the first symptoms of Hepatitis are?
Do you know how long Chlamydia can be carried without any symptoms being visible?
Would you associate headaches with STI symptoms?
What does amaze me are the people who are taking some precaution and accepting there remains some risk... yet don't go and get checked out at all.
The times I have heard people say that they know they are clear because they have no symptoms - as if all STI's and blood born viruses have immediate noticeable symptoms (if any at all).
To anyone who thinks that they must be clear as long as there isn't green discharge oozing out of them - I would ask this...
Do you know what the first symptoms of Hepatitis are?
Do you know how long Chlamydia can be carried without any symptoms being visible?
Would you associate headaches with STI symptoms?
clamydia has hardly any symptoms at all and can go on unknown for years cant remeber about the other 2 as not done as much research
i only know about the clamydia cos me friend had it for so long shes now umfertile, id been trying to get her to get checked out for years but she was either embarrassed or to proud to do it how she wishes she had done things different now
i only know about the clamydia cos me friend had it for so long shes now umfertile, id been trying to get her to get checked out for years but she was either embarrassed or to proud to do it how she wishes she had done things different now
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Couple_ne2000 As I said I’m aware of the facts of Aids, my point is it’s always associated with sex and nothing else just like cancer is always associated with smoking, it’s a virus and it has to start somewhere so unless you use condoms for penetrative sex always and that even includes with your own partner then the risk is still present even if less likely, My best friend has HIV and I’ve seen first hand what it does and the effect it has on people as she now only has a handful of friends, she was involved in a serious car accident around 4 years ago and contracted HIV through a blood transfusion, and although it was a few months before she became aware she had contracted HIV she and her husband had obviously been having unprotected sex as they had been trying for a family, but luckily enough his test came back negative even though they had been having unprotected sex for months, so as I said I am aware of Aids and my friend I see almost daily has to live with it, my point is everyone assumes its only sex related, and at no point was I condoning unprotected sex I was only pointing out that doing so doesn’t guarantee Aids or an STI, Everyone that actively swings with multiple partners whether using condoms or not is taking a huge health gamble, condoms aren’t fail safe and have been known to fail so everyone out there that actively swing with multiple partners are taking serious risks themselves so jumping on people who increase the risk is no more than double standards, perhaps if you feel that strongly about the subject then you should seriously consider whether swinging is for you, because whatever way you look at it swinging and health risks go hand in hand and anyone who thinks differently should take there head out of the sand.
Although unprotected sex isn't the only mode of transmission, it, along with IV drug use and occupational exposure are the most common.
It is extremely rare to be exposed via a blood transfuision or transplant in the UK due to our extremely stringent guidelines, regarding suitablity of donor and pre transfusion/transplant testing (and the removal of White Blood Cells from UK blood stocks). There have been four incidences of tranfrusion/transplant aquired infection in the UK since 1995 from two donor sources (source ) which when compared with cases resulting from unprotected sex presents an extremely small risk.
Yes, swinging puts us in a high risk population of not only HIV but other STI's also. However, if everyone (not just swingers) practised safer sex and self presented at GUM's for regular sexual health check ups then the pool of infection would be massively reduced.
The members who do follow the above advice (and ceasing to swing if they recieve a positive diagnosis) , are not burying their heads in the sand, they are playing responsibly, and not only doing the best to protect themselves, but are also helping to protect others.
Les x
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The members who do follow the above advice (and ceasing to swing if they recieve a positive diagnosis) , are not burying their heads in the sand, they are playing responsibly, and not only doing the best to protect themselves, but are also helping to protect others.
Les x
Are you trying to twist my words? I said swinging and health risks go hand in hand and anyone who thinks different should take there head out from the sand
Quote by Fun Scottish Couple
The members who do follow the above advice (and ceasing to swing if they recieve a positive diagnosis) , are not burying their heads in the sand, they are playing responsibly, and not only doing the best to protect themselves, but are also helping to protect others.
Les x
Are you trying to twist my words? I said swinging and health risks go hand in hand and anyone who thinks different should take there head out from the sand
No, sorry, I've re-read what you originally wrote, and I had interpereted it wrongly..........I read it as if you were implying that swingers should resign themselves to the risks. I fully believe that a person should choose to swing (or lead any kind of promiscious lifestyle), then they should make an infomed chioce........ and part of that informed chioce should be being aware of the health risks involved (re-reading I realise that you were just pointing out that there are inherent risks with the swinging lifestyle).
Les x
