Sexual discrimination

10 Oct 2004

As you can probably guess, I'm a man. But why would that stop me from wanting to host an Ann Summers party? But apparently I'm not allowed. In my book that smacks of sex discrimination.
Or is it because I'm a lesbian (only sleep with women wink

). No, can't be that 'cos I'm sure they'd welcome female lesbians. So, it must be because I'm male. I tried to get round it by having Mrs Cu3b4ll arrange the party for me - but then I had to leave the house!!!
Any lawers out there got some (free) advice?
Oooh. Another thought - just imagined a TV ad: "Lesbian Lawers for you"

10 Oct 2004

It is definately sex discrimination but there's probably a loop hole in the law that allows it rolleyes

10 Oct 2004

You can bet your bottom dollar on it.
BTW...is it my eyes or does the thong in your avatar get smaller as the evening goes on??

10 Oct 2004

Quote by bluexxx
It is definately sex discrimination but there's probably a loop hole in the law that allows it

Yep i agree with blue!.......................i held a anne summers party once and asked for mixed sexes to attend!.......................but they wouldent have it!.......................yet they do show off vibs for men!......and thonges!................ect! :roll:

10 Oct 2004

When we had the last bi fem meet at Steveg's house, all the men had to go out to the pub. There had been some kind of mix up with the rep so we had to have a last minute replacement who was obviously later than originally planned, and so the party went on later than it normally would have.
This meant that last orders was called before the end of the party, and the guys all came back to Steve's house, but the rep had to stop proceedings until they'd all gone out into the garden because (I kid you not!!) "It's illegal for men to be present, as it's behaviour likely to incite an orgy"
:shock: :shock:

:rotflmao:
The rep had been told (after we'd had a few drinks) who we were and how we'd come to be there (ie, a bunch of bi or bi curious women who were all regulars on a swinging site) and yet she still wouldnt carry on. Not even after we'd assured her that an orgy wouldn't be a problem to any of us ;)
So Ice, THAT's why we don't need a waiter :lol2:

10 Oct 2004

Yeh the law is funny like that... you have to be carefull about inciting orgys (ann summers party)
Carefull about behaviour that might cause a breach of the peace (flashing or sex in public)
Or buggary where other people are watching, which apparently if you have an audience is still illegal.

10 Oct 2004

Quote by EnglishChris99
Yeh the law is funny like that... you have to be carefull about inciting orgys (ann summers party)
Carefull about behaviour that might cause a breach of the peace (flashing or sex in public)
Or buggary where other people are watching, which apparently if you have an audience is still illegal.

Damn. Guess that makes me a criminal then.
Oh well!! :smoke:

10 Oct 2004

Yeah - theoretically it is discrimination but without those restrictions it wouldn't have worked the way it has. Women who could never even look at sexy lingerie in a department store let alone log on to SH have been given the opportunity to get hold of vibrators and crap, ill-fitting basques. I hate Anne Summers parties but still think they're a great thing.
Jezzay.

11 Oct 2004

yeah its definatly a legal loophole, im pretty sure its that anne summers can use the same laws about employing female staff only for their parties as do companies who treat woman in refuge from various cultures who require women only staff for sensitive reasons, and can actually give preference to ethnic origin background for suitability of the job.
I recently read that Anne Summers had won a case allowing them to place ads in newspapers and other media offering jobs as party hosts, as before that it was deemed inappropriate. What was interesting was that afer they won the case and started advertising, other adult themed businesses caught on, and it was only a couple of days later that the press caught on to "web host/hostess" jobs were being offered in the local jobcentres for porn websites! pure genius smile

however i do sympathise for you, as this is not on. I used to be a body piercer, and our store sold lots of sex toys etc in a separate part of the store. I would suggest finding your nearest alternative/fettish store, and talk to them to see if they would be prepared to do an out of hours Anne Summers style party for you, as youd be suprised how many do it anyway for friends/family. At least that way you could be more personally friendly with them, and theyd be lenient in return.
hope that helps
K

11 Oct 2004

Humph

Since when has inciting an orgy been illegal? That means that some of the ads on here and sex clubs ar also illegal for the same reason....... :shock: But they're not, so how come?
Buggery with an audience is not illegal any more due to the Sexual Offences Act 2003
They can probably go along with the breach of the peace laws, but as Ann Summers parties are held in private houses, can't see this makes much sense either.
Yeah, they can just employ femal staff legally.
The law is bullshit, let's all become anarchists, never use Ann Summers again and buy things for half the price off ebay!
cool

11 Oct 2004

Maybe Ann Summers should have a partner business called Dan Summers hehe!!
That be rather funny lol

in my head its funny OK :P

11 Oct 2004

I don't think it is actually illegal. I think it's just something the reps are told is true, so as to make it easier for them to kick the men out into the back garden until they finish.
When I drove taxis in Sheffield a few years ago, only one firm included "No extra charge after midnight" in there ads. 90% of firms (Private Hire, not Hackney) didn't charge extra, but the firm that used the tag line, got the lions share of work for a while.
"It's not the truth that carries more weight - it's what people believe !!"

11 Oct 2004

So, what we need to do is get some "Dan Summers Rules" posters printed, don some glitsy make up and kinky undies and in true anarchist fashion forceably take over every Ann Summers Party from now on......
Come on guys, stand up up for men's rights NOW!!!!
Men have rights to buy vibros and naughty undies, don't they...
This Ann Summers female domination shit has gone on for too long.....
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!

11 Oct 2004

Quote by bluexxx
Humph

Since when has inciting an orgy been illegal? That means that some of the ads on here and sex clubs ar also illegal for the same reason....... :shock: But they're not, so how come?
Buggery with an audience is not illegal any more due to the Sexual Offences Act 2003
They can probably go along with the breach of the peace laws, but as Ann Summers parties are held in private houses, can't see this makes much sense either.
Yeah, they can just employ femal staff legally.
The law is bullshit, let's all become anarchists, never use Ann Summers again and buy things for half the price off ebay!

On the other hand, it is perfectly legal to exclude anyone from a private party. Discrimination on any grounds, be it sex, race, or anything else, is not illegal in that context. The line about it being illegal to have men at an Ann Summers party is bullshit and totally unnecessary bullshit at that. If you want to exclude men or anyone else, you're perfectly entitled to and you don't need a reason.

11 Oct 2004

Once upon a time my ex-wife hosted an Ann Summers party, I asked (the wife) if me and my brother could go, she said (jokingly) only of you go as Christine and . Needless to say we both accepted.
It was a good laugh, my brother knew lots of dirty words (they played a go through the alphabet and think up dirty words game) that no one else (me and the rep included) knew, words like rimming and filching.
As the night wore on I, with a little encouragement, (of fuck all encouragemnet really) agreed to the ladies request to model some of the gear, I enjoyed it, but the rep was a bit pissed off as she had intended to wear one of the PVC outfits and I had stretched it in places that would look strange on her! lol

11 Oct 2004

Whats filching???

11 Oct 2004

A place in sussex I think :shock:

11 Oct 2004

Ohhhhhhhhhh Im off to pack my bags I wanna go lol

11 Oct 2004

All this has just reminded me about something.
A few (quite a few) years ago whilst stationed in Germany it was quite hard for the wives of servicemen to get work "on the German net" so they used to get involved in MLM/Party Planning etc within the "Wives Club" community. My wife at the time wanted something to do. We weren't ready for kids and she refused to learn the language but had always worked and had her own money. She got involved with a Pyramid selling thing, selling American cleaning products via Party Planning. She was a shy girl and I gave her all the encouragement I could. Even driving her to the presentations and back (she couldn't drive either ffs) One of the ways of encouragement was for her to 'present' to me, and I would 'present' to her. As a by-product of this; I leaned all about the uses of LoC etc, and the 'patter' for parties. (Your ahead of me now aren't you)
She became quite successful and had a fairly full diary but had to come back to the UK for some reason.
So; you guessed it - I had to step in and do the weeks presentations. The first was obviously quite nerve wracking but I soon got into the swing (no pun intended) of things and began to enjoy having these ladies hanging on my every word - even though I was telling them how this miracle gear could clean even the dirtiest of baking trays.
To cut a long story (too late). Part of the presentation was to tout for re-books. MkI ended up in the UK for 3 or 4 weeks so I just carried on. Her sales went up, as did my opportunities to get laid. I didn't take up any of the offers btw. Well; not until she went back to the UK for good!!
Sooooooooo. To get back to Ann Summers and the such; I have a question. In this community of ours here; how would you Ladies react to the thought of an AS type party, presented by a man ?

11 Oct 2004

I imagine if I was there with any of my mad pals the poor guy would be molested hehe

11 Oct 2004

Quote by dambuster
Sooooooooo. To get back to Ann Summers and the such; I have a question. In this community of ours here; how would you Ladies react to the thought of an AS type party, presented by a man ?

That's not an offer by the way (before the cynics start). Just something that came into my head.

11 Oct 2004

Quote by fruity1976
Whats filching???

I believe the correct term is Felching: Licking semen from an anus or vagina.

11 Oct 2004

Drive by felching!!!

11 Oct 2004

Quote by fruity1976
Whats filching???

Sorry, I got the word wrong, the word I shaould have used was
I apologise for the misunderstanding.

11 Oct 2004

:smackbottom: :smackbottom: Marmalaid.... for getting us all excited over a place in sussex!!!!

11 Oct 2004

Quote by xxdevil69
:smackbottom: :smackbottom: Marmalaid.... for getting us all excited over a place in sussex!!!!

Do I get forgiven because I gave you a big smile the other day? biggrin

11 Oct 2004

Go on then.. but don't tell anyone coz it'll ruin my well 'ard image!!! lol

11 Oct 2004

Quote by Ice Pie
Whats filching???

I believe the correct term is Felching: Licking semen from an anus or vagina.
Ohhhhhhhh Ive cum over all giddy!! lol

11 Oct 2004

Is that Vix's Giddy Aunt that you just cum all over? :shock:

11 Oct 2004

Quote by fruity1976
Maybe Ann Summers should have a partner business called Dan Summers hehe!!
That be rather funny in my head its funny OK :P

Quick - someone patent that one!