Hi, just looking for other peoples thoughts. We live in an area that is difficult to describe directions (anyone that has been to skelmersdale will now what we're on about). To assist us in meeting people and giving them the easiest chance of finding us I decided to mark the route on a map so it was clear to see. I then tried to upload the map as a photo but it was declined. After reading the AUP I can understand why. For those that haven't read it then the following applies to photos being uploaded:
Photos
All photos shall contain the account holder(s); it should not be possible to identify any third parties.
No person who appears to be under the age of 18.
No identifiable people in the background.
No email address, URLs or mobile/telephone numbers.
Photos that are deemed to be too obscene or inappropriate for this site may be removed.
So the photo's were declined as they didn't contain the account holder. Ok I thought, no problem. To alleviate this I added a Pic of the account holder to the picture. So to be clear there was a picture of the account holder with a map with a route marked on it attached onto the picture to make one pic. When I then tried to upload this picture they were again declined. I then opened a support ticket to question why and to cut a long story short was advised that they were inappropriate for the site!
I honestly can't see why. They do not infringe on anyones privacy. There is no house number on them it just guides you onto a street. We have uploaded the same pics onto another site were they have been cleared. Yes the other site also declined the maps but then cleared them once they had a pic with them. What exactly makes them inappropriate?
What are your thoughts on this? Is a map with a red line marking a route to a street really that inappropriate?
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Sex God
Di,
As an alternative you could always :
(a) message those attending with a link to googlemaps
- for example save this link
- then add your post code, thus
(don't worry AA1 1AA doesn't exist as a post code)
- then anyone clicking on this link should get the Google Map, and whilst not getting them to the door it will get them within the immediate area
(b) use Shrep to create a meeting and in the location field add your post code
both of these would allow you to share the info so as to help with directions, so people can either use a sat nav or at least be able to print off and follow a map.
Hope this helps
As an alternative you could always :
(a) message those attending with a link to googlemaps
- for example save this link
- then add your post code, thus
(don't worry AA1 1AA doesn't exist as a post code)
- then anyone clicking on this link should get the Google Map, and whilst not getting them to the door it will get them within the immediate area
(b) use Shrep to create a meeting and in the location field add your post code
both of these would allow you to share the info so as to help with directions, so people can either use a sat nav or at least be able to print off and follow a map.
Hope this helps
Sex God
I would say that a link to Google Maps within a PM would be most appropriate for privacy purposes etc.
Hope everyone makes it!
Hope everyone makes it!
Orgasminator
The only issue I see with it is you could have undesirables hanging around your street to try and figure out who you are. That really wouldn't be cool.
We have enough pictures on our profile to be able to work out who we are I guess, even though there are no face pics. Our street isn't all that big so someone could figure out where we live.
I'd guess that could be the reason it's not allowed?
*Her*
We have enough pictures on our profile to be able to work out who we are I guess, even though there are no face pics. Our street isn't all that big so someone could figure out where we live.
I'd guess that could be the reason it's not allowed?
*Her*
The google maps was recomended by admin and like we explained to them the numbering around our area is very confusing and doesn't follow your conventional method (Odds one side evens another). It's very addhoc and people always have problems finding us even when we give them the postcode and house number and try and describe the directions. Hense we decided to put up the map, as you know a picture paints a thousand words. By using google maps we can't clearly show exactly which turn to take in the area of our postcode. Hard to explain but everyone who has been to ours knows exactly what we're talking about.
We understand the view about the undesirables and that's why we put the pics into our private gallery only to be given out to those we invite. Even if we didn't at the very worst it would lead them to our house which I think would be our decision to make anyway. We are adults after all.
We understand the view about the undesirables and that's why we put the pics into our private gallery only to be given out to those we invite. Even if we didn't at the very worst it would lead them to our house which I think would be our decision to make anyway. We are adults after all.
Sex God
1. Use google maps.
2. Ask people who might want to attend your house, to use AA ruote planner, you need to give them your full post code.
3. Ask people who might want to attend your house, if they have sat nav, and get them to use that.
4. Get them to buy an old fashioned map of your area.
5. You meet them down the road, at a pub or supermarket, and they follwo you back to your house.
6. When they get lost, they ring you, and you 'talk' them in.
2. Ask people who might want to attend your house, to use AA ruote planner, you need to give them your full post code.
3. Ask people who might want to attend your house, if they have sat nav, and get them to use that.
4. Get them to buy an old fashioned map of your area.
5. You meet them down the road, at a pub or supermarket, and they follwo you back to your house.
6. When they get lost, they ring you, and you 'talk' them in.
Please, I don't want to sound irate but I am an adult. I am also very aware on how to give directions etc. Unfortunately not everyone is good at following them. Especially when they get to the area where we live. Not everyone has sat nav. And allthough people can buy a map that doesn't automaticaly make them able to follow directions. As I think I said before a picture paints a thousand words.
The point I am trying to make is what makes these pics inapropriate? They don't invade anyone's privacy. They aren't leading them anywere exept to a street. It is no different than giving out your details to someone in a message.
The point I am trying to make is what makes these pics inapropriate? They don't invade anyone's privacy. They aren't leading them anywere exept to a street. It is no different than giving out your details to someone in a message.
Sex God
Di,
Agreed, perhaps one for Admin to look at / comment on tomorrow when they fully staffed and in the office.
Yes agree re getting to your place, however arriving at 'the back door' was ok
Agreed, perhaps one for Admin to look at / comment on tomorrow when they fully staffed and in the office.
Yes agree re getting to your place, however arriving at 'the back door' was ok
Sex God
Quote by Chris-1977
Please, I don't want to sound irate but I am an adult. I am also very aware on how to give directions etc. Unfortunately not everyone is good at following them. Especially when they get to the area where we live. Not everyone has sat nav. And allthough people can buy a map that doesn't automaticaly make them able to follow directions. As I think I said before a picture paints a thousand words.
The point I am trying to make is what makes these pics inapropriate? They don't invade anyone's privacy. They aren't leading them anywere exept to a street. It is no different than giving out your details to someone in a message.
What makes them inappropriate, is that someone who can, has decided that they are inappropriate. I'm sure you can use one of the methods Sarah described, to get people to your home.
We do all of the things that you just said Sara when meeting (except meet them and they follow) but when you've invited a dozen people it get's to be a bit of a pain when 8 out of 10 of them call and need directions and need "talking" in. The aim of these pics was to make it easier on us. Yes we can email them but it would be easier for us if we could just have them in our private gallery and then attach them to a message as we don't give out our email address.
Sex God
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Di,
Agreed, perhaps one for Admin to look at / comment on tomorrow when they fully staffed and in the office.
Yes agree re getting to your place, however arriving at 'the back door' was ok
If admin have recommended Google maps, I'd suggest that means they have already 'looked at/commented on' the pics. At the end of the day, the decision is theirs and it would appear they have decided.
Sex God
Di,
By the way using Google Map link, as suggested earlier does actually bring up your place
By the way using Google Map link, as suggested earlier does actually bring up your place
Quote by Freckledbird
Please, I don't want to sound irate but I am an adult. I am also very aware on how to give directions etc. Unfortunately not everyone is good at following them. Especially when they get to the area where we live. Not everyone has sat nav. And allthough people can buy a map that doesn't automaticaly make them able to follow directions. As I think I said before a picture paints a thousand words.
The point I am trying to make is what makes these pics inapropriate? They don't invade anyone's privacy. They aren't leading them anywere exept to a street. It is no different than giving out your details to someone in a message.
What makes them inappropriate, is that someone who can, has decided that they are inappropriate. I'm sure you can use one of the methods Sarah described, to get people to your home.
Oh so were going down the route of SOMEONE THAT CAN HAS DECIDED are we! lol not a very mature response and not one that i'd expect when paying a fair amount for a service and no I'm not saying it's a bad one i'm just asking for a clear reason why. I also thought that the forums were for discusion and debate. I don't see very much discusion or debate centred around BECAUSE WE CAN THATS WHY
Sex God
Whether it's mature or not, the final decision is at their discretion
Quote by HnS
Di,
If Admin don't come back with anything tomorrow, I'll try and remember to mention when I'm there on Tuesday lunchtime.
Whilst perhaps nothing immediate or that might need some work by the developers there's an interesting point raised
By the way using Google Map link, as suggested earlier does actually bring up your place
I know it does but to actualy have the route marked onto the map as well for people to see helps them to visualise the route. Trust me it works better than just looking at the blank map itself. Don't want to sound full of it but I have a lot of experiance with navigation and trying to get people to a destination that's why I know not everyone can navigate
If there are people who think I am slagging off SH then please calm down. I'm just highlighting something with my own point of view, which I'm sure is the purpose of these forums.
Sex God
The AUP on pictures is highly unlikely to be altered when there are other alternatives in this case. I can understand that you can make the pics private, however if we were to allow maps to be uploaded then we would have to allow a lot of other things that are currently disallowed by the AUP be uploaded. Honestly your mind would boggle if you knew the random stuff that gets uploaded now.
And Chris-1977, I do understand your frustration.
HnS, I expect that Admin have a lot of other stuff on their plates at the moment. However if Chris-1977 submits a support ticket, then I am sure they will re-look at it.
And Chris-1977, I do understand your frustration.
HnS, I expect that Admin have a lot of other stuff on their plates at the moment. However if Chris-1977 submits a support ticket, then I am sure they will re-look at it.
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Whether it's mature or not, the final decision is at their discretion
That it is. Before I say my next point, which is just that, a point. Not intended to point fingers or discredit the mods in anyway but....
As far as I'm aware the pics get looked at by a member who has earned the right to become a moderater. Yes I said EARNED. However everyone's interpretation of things are slightly different on occasions. For example. We uploaded pics not to long ago which had people in the background. The people in the background had there faces blotted out along with any identifiable features (tats etc). When first uploaded they were refused. I thought that this was a mistake and that maybe a MOD was being overly strict with the AUP about photos so I simply tried to upload them again. I can only assume that a different MOD looked at the pics the second time as they were accepted and are still on our profile today.
So I think the point I'm making is that allthough a MOD may make a decision it doesn't necesarily make it a correct one and second it doesn't necesarily make it final. As HnS as said they will bring it up Tuesday to admin (thanks HnS). Fair enough the decision may not be changed, so be it.
Sex God
As has already been suggest, by noladreams submit a support ticket to admin.
These go direct to admin.
These go direct to admin.
Sex God
To be honest, if you feel so strongly that maps should be allowed and an exception to the AUP on photos should be made, then I would submit a support ticket. This would allow Admin to have a look at the case again for you. Personally, I think that would be better than it being discussed by someone who is not anything to do with Admin.
But up to you.
But up to you.
I don't understand what the issue is 
Create a jpeg of the map, upload it to a host, imageshak type thing, copy the link in to your pms.
You have complete control over when and who see it.
Adding it to your collections of pictures on site, even in a private gallery, means that if you allow anyone to view it, you don't know when they might turn up on your door step.
So if you have decided not to make arrangements, they might be completely pissed off with you and they'd know where you lived :?
Create a jpeg of the map, upload it to a host, imageshak type thing, copy the link in to your pms.
You have complete control over when and who see it.
Adding it to your collections of pictures on site, even in a private gallery, means that if you allow anyone to view it, you don't know when they might turn up on your door step.
So if you have decided not to make arrangements, they might be completely pissed off with you and they'd know where you lived :?
Quote by HnS
If Admin don't come back with anything tomorrow, I'll try and remember to mention when I'm there on Tuesday lunchtime.
HnS, I think you've mentioned that you are visiting the office on Tuesday enough times now :lol2:
Its an office with lots of brown desks and if you are lucky, you can use the hot drinks machine and fridge. Its nothing to get excited over :lol2: :lol2:
One other point that might help clear up the "appropriateness" of uploading maps etc:
Only this week I had to decline submissions giving pictorial directions to a "secret" dogging site. I know it's not quite the same thing but - in principal - if one member is allowed to upload maps then it sets a precedent that other members will abuse. ;-)
Only this week I had to decline submissions giving pictorial directions to a "secret" dogging site. I know it's not quite the same thing but - in principal - if one member is allowed to upload maps then it sets a precedent that other members will abuse. ;-)
Quote by Dawnie
I don't understand what the issue is
Create a jpeg of the map, upload it to a host, imageshak type thing, copy the link in to your pms.
You have complete control over when and who see it.
Adding it to your collections of pictures on site, even in a private gallery, means that if you allow anyone to view it, you don't know when they might turn up on your door step.
So if you have decided not to make arrangements, they might be completely pissed off with you and they'd know where you lived :?
A good alternative and one I never thought of so thanks. As for people turning up on our doorstep the map doesn't go that far. It takes them to our part of the street. They'd have the choice of a lot of doors to knock on. I did say we intended on making the pic private but I suppose admin would have no guarantee that we'd stick to that.
Never mind. It was just something that we thought would help people to find us. It's not a major problem there's a lot more important things to worry about
Quote by Chris-1977
Whether it's mature or not, the final decision is at their discretion
That it is. Before I say my next point, which is just that, a point. Not intended to point fingers or discredit the mods in anyway but....
As far as I'm aware the pics get looked at by a member who has earned the right to become a moderater. Yes I said EARNED. However everyone's interpretation of things are slightly different on occasions. For example. We uploaded pics not to long ago which had people in the background. The people in the background had there faces blotted out along with any identifiable features (tats etc). When first uploaded they were refused. I thought that this was a mistake and that maybe a MOD was being overly strict with the AUP about photos so I simply tried to upload them again. I can only assume that a different MOD looked at the pics the second time as they were accepted and are still on our profile today.
So I think the point I'm making is that allthough a MOD may make a decision it doesn't necesarily make it a correct one and second it doesn't necesarily make it final. As HnS as said they will bring it up Tuesday to admin (thanks HnS). Fair enough the decision may not be changed, so be it.
Welcome to the forums.
Sex God
Quote by Dawnie
If Admin don't come back with anything tomorrow, I'll try and remember to mention when I'm there on Tuesday lunchtime.
HnS, I think you've mentioned that you are visiting the office on Tuesday enough times now :lol2:
Its an office with lots of brown desks and if you are lucky, you can use the hot drinks machine and fridge. Its nothing to get excited over :lol2: :lol2:
Dawnie,
hot drinks ??? :sad:
was offered cold ones from the fridge instead
:lol: Di,
Mentioned to the Boss and one of the developers, it's something that they are actually looking at adding a link to some mapping software as an option (albet with some restrictions so as to keep private) to some of the screens, however in the mean time think you've had a couple of working suggestions.
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