My daughter's primary school arrange trips to local mosque's, temple's, churches etc for religous studies.
The actual school has a wide range of different religions in its children.
A few of the parent's have refused to let their children attend any trip where they are visiting any place of worship apart from those that they use themselves.
I think the main reason for this is because they dont see why their children should learn about other religion's other than their own.
I beleive that no matter what religion you are, you should be tolerant/understanding of other religion's.
You dont have to agree with them but respect them all the same.
I also believe that knowledge is key. If you have no knowledge of other religion's, how can you understand it? how can you have a good honest debate ( when they are older of course)about them without even the basic knowledge of what they are about?
With the diverse communities that we now live and learn in, surely it's better to have a little knowledge of the people living and working around you.
What are your thought's?
Louise xx
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Quote by louise_and_joe
My daughter's primary school arrange trips to local mosque's, temple's, churches etc for religous studies.
The actual school has a wide range of different religions in its children.
A few of the parent's have refused to let their children attend any trip where they are visiting any place of worship apart from those that they use themselves.
I think the main reason for this is because they dont see why their children should learn about other religion's other than their own.
I beleive that no matter what religion you are, you should be tolerant/understanding of other religion's.
You dont have to agree with them but respect them all the same.
I also believe that knowledge is key. If you have no knowledge of other religion's, how can you understand it? how can you have a good honest debate ( when they are older of course)about them without even the basic knowledge of what they are about?
With the diverse communities that we now live and learn in, surely it's better to have a little knowledge of the people living and working around are your thought's?
Louise xx
I fully agree with you Louise.
I personally don`t agree with some religions and am not in the slightest bit religious but I do thing my children should grow up to respect others choices and they won`t do that by staying behind in the classroom whilst others are out learning and trying to undersatnd.
I think that makes sense
hmmm....
understanding of religions (varied) might be a good idea... so teaching the basics of multiple religions may well be a good idea.
however... Personal opinion is that school is not the place for the teaching of one religion specifically.
Understanding of basic religions (plural)? Yes!
Religious Schools?... no
lp
understanding of religions (varied) might be a good idea... so teaching the basics of multiple religions may well be a good idea.
however... Personal opinion is that school is not the place for the teaching of one religion specifically.
Understanding of basic religions (plural)? Yes!
Religious Schools?... no
lp
Quote by LondonPlaything
hmmm....
understanding of religions (varied) might be a good idea... so teaching the basics of multiple religions may well be a good idea.
however... Personal opinion is that school is not the place for the teaching of one religion specifically.
Understanding of basic religions (plural)? Yes!
Religious Schools?... nolp
Agree with you. Our daughter attends a Church of England school but not because we are religious because it is the best one that is closest to our house. There are children from many different cultural backgrounds and im sure they don`t get religion rammed down their throats.
Sex God
To be quite honest I dont wish either of my children to be taught religion full stop but as it has to be taught then I fail to see why they should be taught about religions of other cultures....
Sex God
I totally agree wih you Louise. It is a matter of living in today's multi cultural society and the acceptance and (partial*) understanding of other religions.
* I add this as so many alternative beliefs are alien to us Brits, but my children learning about these it does not mean they follow them, purely to accept others' ways of thinking as an alternative suitable for some.
We live in a predominantly white area with very few other cultures around us and therefore I don't want my children growing up thinking this is the only view for when they go out in the big wide world they will see this first hand. I want them to respect other people for their views and beliefs generally, not just religion related.
pink x
* I add this as so many alternative beliefs are alien to us Brits, but my children learning about these it does not mean they follow them, purely to accept others' ways of thinking as an alternative suitable for some.
We live in a predominantly white area with very few other cultures around us and therefore I don't want my children growing up thinking this is the only view for when they go out in the big wide world they will see this first hand. I want them to respect other people for their views and beliefs generally, not just religion related.
pink x
I was of the belief that why should 'our' children be taught anything other than our own religion.. but reality is the world gets smaller and smaller each generation.. Not to teach is ignorance and setting a bad example to them.. let alone putting our own in danger for not understanding others around us.. Thats not to say I think we should be brain washed, forced or in anyway diluted with our own beliefs.. Far from.. to understand others is a good way to understand ourselves, much can be learned from some.
Reasons I say this is only because I've been lucky enough to travel to many diverse cultures.. and seeing how dedicated they are to certain religions and culture is quite amazing.. To see very poor people get happiness from a belief is quite humbling..
Anyway... religion causes far too many problems to go into as it is..
Just live and let live I say..
Mike x
Reasons I say this is only because I've been lucky enough to travel to many diverse cultures.. and seeing how dedicated they are to certain religions and culture is quite amazing.. To see very poor people get happiness from a belief is quite humbling..
Anyway... religion causes far too many problems to go into as it is..
Just live and let live I say..
Mike x
Sex God
A range of religions is taught in state school. They aren't all taught in all schools. The children aren't indoctrinated, just taught about the origins of a given religion and its basic principles, beliefs, holy days and gods/goddesses. Many of the principles overlap between religions anyway and cultural barriers become less pronounced with mutual understanding.
A question Louise: of the parents who object, how many of them actually practise any religion other than that which their child is being taught? Is that what you meant by using a place of worship?
A question Louise: of the parents who object, how many of them actually practise any religion other than that which their child is being taught? Is that what you meant by using a place of worship?
Sex God
Quote by Freckledbird
A range of religions is taught in state school. They aren't all taught in all schools. The children aren't indoctrinated, just taught about the origins of a given religion and its basic principles, beliefs, holy days and gods/goddesses. Many of the principles overlap between religions anyway and cultural barriers become less pronounced with mutual understanding.
A question Louise: of the parents who object, how many of them actually practise any religion other than that which their child is being taught?
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Quote by bbw_lover
A range of religions is taught in state school. They aren't all taught in all schools. The children aren't indoctrinated, just taught about the origins of a given religion and its basic principles, beliefs, holy days and gods/goddesses. Many of the principles overlap between religions anyway and cultural barriers become less pronounced with mutual understanding.
A question Louise: of the parents who object, how many of them actually practise any religion other than that which their child is being taught?
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Quote by louise_and_joe
My daughter's primary school arrange trips to local mosque's, temple's, churches etc for religous studies.
The actual school has a wide range of different religions in its children.
A few of the parent's have refused to let their children attend any trip where they are visiting any place of worship apart from those that they use themselves.
I think the main reason for this is because they dont see why their children should learn about other religion's other than their own.
I beleive that no matter what religion you are, you should be tolerant/understanding of other religion's.
You dont have to agree with them but respect them all the same.
I also believe that knowledge is key. If you have no knowledge of other religion's, how can you understand it? how can you have a good honest debate ( when they are older of course)about them without even the basic knowledge of what they are about?
With the diverse communities that we now live and learn in, surely it's better to have a little knowledge of the people living and working around you.
What are your thought's?
Louise xx
i agree with your thoughts entirely....
isnt having some understanding and tolerance "sort of holy"? i think it is........it sounds right and proper.
i dont think its a good example to set for children to deny them learning about other religions and refusing to let your children go on a trip to a place of worship wont make them impure ........ it will just alienate them and their parents from the others. I'd have made the trips compulsory ( can u still do that in schools these days".
id have a bet though that the root cause of not allowing your kids to go to a certain place has its roots in racism......
i pity the parents.
Sex God
Quote by DeeCee
I'd have made the trips compulsory ( can u still do that in schools these days".
id have a bet though that the root cause of not allowing your kids to go to a certain place has its roots in racism......
i pity the parents.
I agree with you that the possible root cause might be down to racism.
Bit of a sticky one, making the trips compulsory. They are usually conducted as part of the curriculum, and we have to teach some subjects, but parents can withdraw their children if they really insist. To be honest, it's usually a minority who object and they finish up looking like bigots.
I agree with you Louise, what's wrong with children having a bit insight into other people's religions? It's not as though we're forcing them to believe.
Most schools at the moment will be looking at Diwali, Festival of Lights and it's a beautiful thing to see so what's the harm in that?
Most schools at the moment will be looking at Diwali, Festival of Lights and it's a beautiful thing to see so what's the harm in that?
AFAIK 'diversity' is mandatory in the workplace now with all the anti-dscirmination legislation...so why exclude the school? I feel uncomfortable with some religious-inclusive schools but comfortable with others...let's make them all equal in what they teach (or totally exclusive) in what they teach. One or the other, no in-betweens for me.
Sex God
Quote by dekntan
I don't think any children should be taught about ANY religion.
Wait until they become adults and let them make thier own choice.
but isnt educating them on all religions a way of doing that
The problem then becomes, how many and which religions? All religions couldnt possibly be taught there are a million and one religions we know exist then another million and one we havent a clue exists and besides....its all made up as it goes along isnt it
Bugger it, I know what I meant
Sex God
Quote by winchwench
How I wish we could scrap all religions, and just make the following a way of life:
"Be excellent to each other"
Sort of covers it all don't you think? From helping old ladies to ensuring your lover is never left wanting
Ideal world, wouldnt that be just fantastic and oh so peaceful
Quote by helnheaven
I don't think any children should be taught about ANY religion.
Wait until they become adults and let them make thier own choice.
but isnt educating them on all religions a way of doing that
The problem then becomes, how many and which religions? All religions couldnt possibly be taught there are a million and one religions we know exist then another million and one we havent a clue exists and besides....its all made up as it goes along isnt it
Bugger it, I know what I meant
Yup very true hun its a complicated affair all this religion
Children leave school at the moment and can't even read, less time on religion and more time on real education.
If we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
If we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
Sex God
Quote by browning
Children leave school at the moment and can't even read, less time on religion and more time on real education.
If we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
:thumbup:
Sex God
i just spent a whole hour typing up a response to this thread, read it through ( my post that is )and thankfully realised that it was total bollox
must be the weather
must be the weather
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Quote by browning
I don't think any children should be taught about ANY religion.
Wait until they become adults and let them make thier own choice.
How can they make a choice if they know nothing?
Sex God
Quote by browning
Children leave school at the moment and can't even read, less time on religion and more time on real education.
If we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
You mean like teaching spelling, or how to use a dictionary?
Sex God
Quote by flower411
Children leave school at the moment and can't even read, less time on religion and more time on real education.
If we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
You mean like teaching spelling, or how to use a dictionary?
OOOOOOO you are sooooooo harsh !!! I bet you have a huge stock of red pens as well !!
Nope, we aren't allowed to mark in red!
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Quote by flower411
Hence, you taking out your frustrations in here !!!
:thumbup: Bingo!
Quote by browning
Children leave school at the moment and can't even read, less time on religion and more time on real we teach children religion at school and thier parents are religious, they will normally be the same religion as thier parents.
This may sound contrevesial, if we teach religion we are teaching something that has not even been proved.
It's not always lack of education that brings a child to leave school not being able to read... what about truancy? non-willingness to learn? fooling around with peers?
People are too quick to blame the school (and I'm not saying they're without a little blame!).
My daughter's due to leave this year, she's predicted 10 GCSE's. She's learned loads about RE but frankly finds it boring, that's her choice. Some of the girls in her class are predicted to leave with no GCSE's - the ones who are rarely there.
A school by its very nature is a place for the teaching of facts, i.e. something that is known to be reality, the truth or have existed and should not be a vehicle for the imposition of unprovable theories onto impressionable young people.
Present children with a series of peer-reviewed facts and allow them to make up their own minds. And herein is the problem, religion is unable to present a coherent set of facts and therefore should always be accompanied with a massive caveat stating that none of what is being taught has ever been proven.
It makes me cringe to see someone here play the race card in a debate about religion and children.
Essential reading is Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" and especially the chapter entitled "Childhood, abuse and the escape from religion.'
It also contains a great quote from Victor Hugo - "There is in every village a torch - the teacher; and an extinguisher - the clergyman". Wise words indeed.
Present children with a series of peer-reviewed facts and allow them to make up their own minds. And herein is the problem, religion is unable to present a coherent set of facts and therefore should always be accompanied with a massive caveat stating that none of what is being taught has ever been proven.
It makes me cringe to see someone here play the race card in a debate about religion and children.
Essential reading is Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" and especially the chapter entitled "Childhood, abuse and the escape from religion.'
It also contains a great quote from Victor Hugo - "There is in every village a torch - the teacher; and an extinguisher - the clergyman". Wise words indeed.
