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Should you clear the snow?
Sex God
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
Sex God
Quote by Dirtygirly
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
And if there are less cars on the roads, the police are going to notice and catch you!
Quote by Dirtygirly
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
Quote by Kaznkev
Useful advice from the horse's mouth. Snow Clearance
Yes well only people who swallow 'elf and safty myths hook line and sinker ever thought you should'nt.
As a street we cleared our road yesterday,we live on a cul de sac and never get gritted. few of us took less than an hour.
Of course its snowed again overnight,
The greatest myth Kaz is that the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 applies when you are not at work.
No it doesn't. Private drives, houses, any activity where there is no employment, etc do not fall under the law as such. It is a life choice of the individuals and they have to face the consequence of their actions or inactions.
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
Quote by Steve
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
Wiv a ladder !!!!
Quote by Steve
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
This is where the law will be applied by the police as the onus is on the driver to have a safe vehicle. How a driver achieves it will be up to themselves.
I have searched for this and found lots of links saying the law is used but not found anybody who has actually been fined or gone to court about it. It may just be one that they can use but never have
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Steve
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
Dunno... but I've just been out for a ciggie and a white van went past with a mohichan!! :giggle:
Sex God
I've been behind cars that have left the top snow on and it's murder. Great lumps of the stuff flying off randomly into my path. Or a continuouis stream of snow worse than a blizzard. Obviously you drop back, but the danger is still there.
As for the ones who clear a 'letter-box' through the snow on the windscreen and don't even bother clearing the sides and rear. Or expect the wipers to clear enough to see through. How stupid do people have to be to do that?
I'd rather get cold and be able to see all around in some of the most dangerous driving conditions we get in a year, than stay warm and make it far more likely I die before I get to work - or kill someone.
By the way - it's snowing again.
As for the ones who clear a 'letter-box' through the snow on the windscreen and don't even bother clearing the sides and rear. Or expect the wipers to clear enough to see through. How stupid do people have to be to do that?
I'd rather get cold and be able to see all around in some of the most dangerous driving conditions we get in a year, than stay warm and make it far more likely I die before I get to work - or kill someone.
By the way - it's snowing again.
Sex God
Quote by fouru
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
Wiv a ladder !!!!
Do you seriously think there is a company anywhere in the country that would condone it and issue a driver with a ladder to climb up 14ft ,unassisted in many cases , to clear the snow/ice from the roof of his trailer ?
Orgasminator
It's a breach of rule 229 of the Highway Code:-
229
Before you set off
you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
Which provides for a fine of £60 and 3 penalty points.
229
Before you set off
you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
Which provides for a fine of £60 and 3 penalty points.
Sex God
I use a soft long-handled broom to sweep the loose stuff off the top. It works a treat. Also for brushing the snow out of the radiator grille.
Sex God
I just went out to my parent's house... they're on holiday and the next door neighbours have very kindly cleared their own drive and dumped all the snow onto my folks drive! 
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
Sex God
A well known local nutter, and I mean that sincerely folks, caused mayhem on an estate near to us last year in the February snow. Sometime during the middle of one night the guy got up and collected lots and lots of snow and made a 2.5 foot high wall of snow crossing both ends of of a short untreated road in the middle of the estate. Not only had he packed this snow so hard he had even used a garden blow torch, the sort used to kill weeds, to melt the snow periodically during the packing so turning the both berriers into pure packed ice. this not being enough he even ramped the fresh falling snow up either side to help with concealing them. No way could anyone see these walls of ice even from only a few meters away.
The upshot of this is thatan oler lady smashed into it with her car and though moving at a slow speed wrote of her car and ended up in hospital. The police were called and after having taking photo's had to employ a guy with a JCB from around the corner to break the ice barriers up they were so hard. and to this day no one knows how the man who built these was handled. The guy who did this still lives in the street there and does, we know, have periods of going into Psychiatric care whereas the lady who was injured has moved. Care in the community eh? Wonder what he'll try this year.
The upshot of this is thatan oler lady smashed into it with her car and though moving at a slow speed wrote of her car and ended up in hospital. The police were called and after having taking photo's had to employ a guy with a JCB from around the corner to break the ice barriers up they were so hard. and to this day no one knows how the man who built these was handled. The guy who did this still lives in the street there and does, we know, have periods of going into Psychiatric care whereas the lady who was injured has moved. Care in the community eh? Wonder what he'll try this year.
Quote by Lost
A well known local nutter, and I mean that sincerely folks, caused mayhem on an estate near to us last year in the February snow. Sometime during the middle of one night the guy got up and collected lots and lots of snow and made a 2.5 foot high wall of snow crossing both ends of of a short untreated road in the middle of the estate. Not only had he packed this snow so hard he had even used a garden blow torch, the sort used to kill weeds, to melt the snow periodically during the packing so turning the both berriers into pure packed ice. this not being enough he even ramped the fresh falling snow up either side to help with concealing them. No way could anyone see these walls of ice even from only a few meters away.
The upshot of this is thatan oler lady smashed into it with her car and though moving at a slow speed wrote of her car and ended up in hospital. The police were called and after having taking photo's had to employ a guy with a JCB from around the corner to break the ice barriers up they were so hard. and to this day no one knows how the man who built these was handled. The guy who did this still lives in the street there and does, we know, have periods of going into Psychiatric care whereas the lady who was injured has moved. Care in the community eh? Wonder what he'll try this year.
I always wondered where Eddie the Eagle moved to
Dave_Notts
Quote by Steve
Also... on the radio this morning they said that you should clear the snow off the roof of your car as well. £60 fine and 3 points if you haven't and you get caught! I didn't know that.
There is no specific law about snow on your roof but I think they use a round about one where if the snow and ice falls off and hits a pedestrian or another vehicle user and obscures their vision.............or summat like that. There may be someone who actually knows what they are talking about can clear this up
Dave_Notts
How does the poor old lorry driver who has a big accumulation of it on the roof of his trailer (some 14ft up) get on then ?
Wiv a ladder !!!!
Do you seriously think there is a company anywhere in the country that would condone it and issue a driver with a ladder to climb up 14ft ,unassisted in many cases , to clear the snow/ice from the roof of his trailer ?
... and, isn't there a H&S implication/specialist training and insurance implication on working above a 2m height?
Sex God
Quote by Dirtygirly
I just went out to my parent's house... they're on holiday and the next door neighbours have very kindly cleared their own drive and dumped all the snow onto my folks drive!
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
I'd do that too!
Quote by GnV
... and, isn't there a H&S implication/specialist training and insurance implication on working above a 2m height?
No
That legislation has been repealed and we just have the Work at Height Regs now. This states any height where a person may be injured.........so the 2m rule is out of the window.
Dave_Notts
Quote by Freckledbird
I just went out to my parent's house... they're on holiday and the next door neighbours have very kindly cleared their own drive and dumped all the snow onto my folks drive!
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
I'd do that too!
Liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'ld march round, grab them by the scruff of their neck, drag them to your drive, rub their noses in the snow and then get them to clear it while you scream abuse at them.
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
I just went out to my parent's house... they're on holiday and the next door neighbours have very kindly cleared their own drive and dumped all the snow onto my folks drive!
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
I'd do that too!
Liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'ld march round, grab them by the scruff of their neck, drag them to your drive, rub their noses in the snow and then get them to clear it while you scream abuse at them.
Dave_Notts
Er, I might 
Quote by Freckledbird
I just went out to my parent's house... they're on holiday and the next door neighbours have very kindly cleared their own drive and dumped all the snow onto my folks drive!
Yeah... so there's no danger my car is going out there this weekend... cheers for that!
Tossers! I'm going to bus it out there and then clear the drive and dump all the snow at the end of their driveway! :twisted:
I'd do that too!
Liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'ld march round, grab them by the scruff of their neck, drag them to your drive, rub their noses in the snow and then get them to clear it while you scream abuse at them.
Dave_Notts
Er, I might But you would do it in your usual sexy way
Even when you are nocking ten shades out of someone on the floor, jumping on their back, stomping on them and dragging them through the house.........just cos they moved a tin.........is still sexy
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
But you would do it in your usual sexy way
Even when you are nocking ten shades out of someone on the floor, jumping on their back, stomping on them and dragging them through the house.........just cos they moved a tin.........is still sexy
Dave_Notts
thank you! Not that I'd do that Quote by Freckledbird
But you would do it in your usual sexy way
Even when you are nocking ten shades out of someone on the floor, jumping on their back, stomping on them and dragging them through the house.........just cos they moved a tin.........is still sexy
Dave_Notts
thank you! Not that I'd do that Of course not
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
But you would do it in your usual sexy way
Even when you are nocking ten shades out of someone on the floor, jumping on their back, stomping on them and dragging them through the house.........just cos they moved a tin.........is still sexy
Dave_Notts
thank you! Not that I'd do that Of course not
Dave_Notts
People who move tins get what they deserve! it messes with the stock rotation innit :lol: and don't start on fridge magnets :giggle:
Quote by Tan--Kinky
But you would do it in your usual sexy way
Even when you are nocking ten shades out of someone on the floor, jumping on their back, stomping on them and dragging them through the house.........just cos they moved a tin.........is still sexy
Dave_Notts
thank you! Not that I'd do that Of course not
Dave_Notts
People who move tins get what they deserve! it messes with the stock rotation innit :lol: and don't start on fridge magnets :giggle:
I know nowt of what you speak
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
... and, isn't there a H&S implication/specialist training and insurance implication on working above a 2m height?
No
That legislation has been repealed and we just have the Work at Height Regs now. This states any height where a person may be injured.........so the 2m rule is out of the window.
Dave_Notts
errrrr, forgive.... but isn't that what Steve was actually saying?
Standing, or launching yourself onto a stool in icy/snowy/wintry weather could prove hazardous and in your context - at any height - could be injurious?
Platform heels could be height where a person my be injured even....
Quote by GnV
... and, isn't there a H&S implication/specialist training and insurance implication on working above a 2m height?
No
That legislation has been repealed and we just have the Work at Height Regs now. This states any height where a person may be injured.........so the 2m rule is out of the window.
Dave_Notts
errrrr, forgive.... but isn't that what Steve was actually saying?
Standing, or launching yourself onto a stool in icy/snowy/wintry weather could prove hazardous and in your context - at any height - could be injurious?
Platform heels could be height where a person my be injured even....
That is the definition of what is work at height. The controls that you put in place mitigate the risk of the actual fall.
The law doesn't ban any type of working, it just asks that those who are doing it are to do it with regard to industry standards or guidance. That is slightly different to what Steve is saying. He gives only one way of doing it and then saying it is not safe.
You could use a gantry, the rails that are inbuilt to the vehicle i.e. on tankers or car transporters, you could use long handled brushes with bendy bits to sweep the top and this way you don't even leave the floor, or even a harness system where the person is harnessed up to a ceiling rail so if they fall off then they do not fall to the ground.
They could even go to the extreme and buy in some bouncy castles so if they fall off they can have a play when they fall off. Lots and lots of ways they can do it. So to just say a ladder is not practical is not the only answer.
I bet there are many other ways to do it, but as I have not worked in that industry I do not know what is available for them.
Dave_Notts
