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I only turned this on yesterday but actually I quite like it! smile
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I only turned this on yesterday but actually I quite like it! smile

Me too! :giggle:
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ok switchin it off there is an annoying blue box with 6 in it n can't find how i make it go away daft as it is such a small blue box is doin my noggin in

Bouncy, send us a pm and give u phone number, will talk you through
nowt to talk through its yawnio can't be arsed with it can't see it bein beneficial in any way got better stuff to spend my time on in fact even cross with myself for wasting time commenting on it ere lol
:lol2: Bouncy that really made me laugh :lol2:
Stick to arranging excellent socials and having fun chick kiss
cheers treacle n look yet again i'm back having a nose jeeze wats wrong with me :silly:
just turned it on... undecided as yet. (possibly good for us genuine non time wasting males) lol Its like SH goes EBAY STYLEEEEE!!
Yes, I'm liking it but having to be careful exactly what I say about some of the 'straight' blokes on here or everyone will know they like cock.. or at least mine, or vice-versa I guess ;-)
i dont get why guys would keep the fact that they like cock a secret. I mean i dont hide the fact that im intrigued. But then for me the bi curious style is all about having my own cock worshipped , selfish i know lol
All
Interesting one, dunno if aware.
1) User (Friend) enables Shrep on day 1, and it populates your 'Leave Rep'
2) User then disables Shrep, for what ever reason of their own When you try to do a 'Leave Rep'(Vouch), you get the error message that this user not enabled
3) To clear from your 'Leave Rep' screen, do a remove
4) User changes mind / understands more, now re-enablesShrep
5) Suspect because of the earlier 'remove', this friend does not get re-populated to your 'Leave Rep'screen/tab
Therefore you are unable to undertake a Vouch for this friend, though other options of Meeting Rep and Site Rep should work ok, i.e. you should be able to post feedback based on their respective Meet and Site criteria.
Support Ticket raised
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Support Ticket raised

Why not tell them whilst you're in the office tomorrow?
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These are my thoughts and my thoughts only but it seems that it is getting harder for the likes of me to use this site effectively.

I'm unsure what you mean by that comment dunno
Surely everyone takes what they want from this site?
You don't have to use any part of the site you don't want to use, just the bits you do want to use confused
Dawnie this site has changed so much it's almost unrecognizable from what i first signed up to. i feel it has changed for the worse sorry but that's how i feel
But then again, until today you hadn't used the site at all since 27th. April, 18th. March before that and 13th. January before that, so it'd be hard to use it effectively anyway - and the changes will be more obvious because they all appear to have happened at one time.
eerrr I've been using the site quite regularly thank you very much!
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eerrr I've been using the site quite regularly thank you very much!

OK, apologies if you have (I only looked at forum posts, sorry) - but then why make the comment about it getting harder to use? If you've been using it regularly, something must be working. The only thing you 'don't get' appears to be SHrep - so don't use it; it's not mandatory.
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One question about SHrep, will the search function be modified to include SHrep so that it only only produces results for those who have it enabled?
Hopefully an Admin person will be able to answer.

It has been raised with admin and yes, when the time is right, searching for Shrep will be added :thumbup:
So much for this being optional then, if it's gonna be so easy to exclude the "genuine but not enamoured with Shrep" people, it's tough enough being a "scumbag" single guy on here as it is. I guess I'd better toe the line, doff my cap and tug my forelock ( steady ! )
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One question about SHrep, will the search function be modified to include SHrep so that it only only produces results for those who have it enabled?
Hopefully an Admin person will be able to answer.

It has been raised with admin and yes, when the time is right, searching for Shrep will be added :thumbup:
So much for this being optional then, if it's gonna be so easy to exclude the "genuine but not enamoured with Shrep" people, it's tough enough being a "scumbag" single guy on here as it is. I guess I'd better toe the line, doff my cap and tug my forelock ( steady ! )
I don't have it enabled. I don't intend to either. I guess it's easier for women though... I don't feel the need to have other people verify me. If someone isn't willing to get to know me without references from other people then I'm afraid I've already lost interest.
My decision to make arrangements to meet someone will be based on my judgement, not the judgement of other people. I'll take my chances. wink
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One question about SHrep, will the search function be modified to include SHrep so that it only only produces results for those who have it enabled?
Hopefully an Admin person will be able to answer.

It has been raised with admin and yes, when the time is right, searching for Shrep will be added :thumbup:
So basically, everyone who has ever tried to argue that verification will in some way split the site into haves and have nots, and exclude people on a site that used to value inclusiveness, will at some point in the not too distant future be vindicated?
Of all the things I've got quite spectacularly wrong over the years, it's nice to have got at least this one thing right. sad
N x x x ;)
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One question about SHrep, will the search function be modified to include SHrep so that it only only produces results for those who have it enabled?
Hopefully an Admin person will be able to answer.

It has been raised with admin and yes, when the time is right, searching for Shrep will be added :thumbup:
So much for this being optional then, if it's gonna be so easy to exclude the "genuine but not enamoured with Shrep" people, it's tough enough being a "scumbag" single guy on here as it is. I guess I'd better toe the line, doff my cap and tug my forelock ( steady ! )
Don`t worry rob ...I`m sure there are enough people around with minds of their own who will continue to search amongst those without recommendation.
To be honest, just because a bunch of people we don`t know have "verified" another person we don`t know ....and vice versa....makes no odds to us, we`ll still continue to meet people without using any form of verification system.
Yes you're right there will be those who will follow there own path but I suspect that they will be a minority. As pointed out on another thread the ratio of single guys to Fems is 150 to 1 so if half of them only search via Shrep those odds become 300 to 1 and I would have thought once the system is embedded it's likely to be less than 10%. You do the math lol.
I hope that the system will indeed enable folk to determine the genuine from the riff raff but I still maintain there's no substitute for common sense and taking the time to check people out by communicating with them.
Anyway I've enabled it already as there's no point in blowing into the wind. It's already asked me to leave SHrep for a couple that I spoke to briefly a while back. Which got me thinking about the "politics" of leaving rep and how that's going to work out on here.
We only add people to our 'Friends' list that we have physically met face-2-face.
People that we are 'interested' in or are interested in us go into our favourites list.
That way we only Vouch for people that we have met. We don't get 'vouch' requests from people who have been added 'just because we accepted a friends invite' this means the vouches we do give and receive are both accurate and genuine.
Although, I am having difficulty in then understanding the reasoning/point behind SiteRep's, this just seems to be an open invite for people to send speculative mails, hope to get a reply (see also the responding to mails thread) from us only to then find a SiteRep request in the SHrep inbox which (we then delete....)is asking for feedback on someone we've just said 'no thanks' to.:doh: If we are going to have a SiteRep then at least have it track something other than how many mails can I get a response to.. SiteRep should go to the members who add the 'value' here - starting forum threads / hosting chatrooms / reporting bugs etc..
Do we have SHrep 'on' - yes we want to give genuine people (single males/females & couples) good feedback and show others that they can have confidence in these members. We also want people who look at our profile to see that we are also 'genuine' and have confidence in contacting us.
Do we use it as a 'definative' way of selecting people to met - NO, we have other criteria which are more important to us, we use it purely as an additional item of information on that person.
Where has Bilko gone?
He stated that verification would NEVER happen on this site...he owes me a tenner. lol
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Where has Bilko gone?
He stated that verification would NEVER happen on this site...he owes me a tenner. lol

:lol:
Done a runner to Oz.....
He'll claim that it's not 'verfication' but 'reputation' :smile:
I do not under any circumstances understand this SHrep thing.
I've just had somebody thank me for a vouch i've apparently left them when i have never met them dunno I asked them how this can happen and they said 'You dont have to have met someone you can just vouch that you know them'. I don't class seeing somebody chat in a chatroom the same as 'knowing them' or mean they are genuin. Infact, its really annoyed me.
So for me, SHrep will be disabled for good.
We're going camping at the weekend :bounce: and there are about 80 people off this site going. I've been talking to the organiser about creating a meet for a shep but we're unsure how to do it.
Do we all have to create a meet for everyone going or can just one person create the meet and then everyone can do a meet rep about everyone else after the weekend?
Can anyone advise please??
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We're going camping at the weekend :bounce: and there are about 80 people off this site going. I've been talking to the organiser about creating a meet for a shep but we're unsure how to do it.
Do we all have to create a meet for everyone going or can just one person create the meet and then everyone can do a meet rep about everyone else after the weekend?
Can anyone advise please??

Not sure at all but the way I understood it from that you would vouch for people rather than do it by the meet rep dunno Was thinking along similar lines for the munch.
Think I need to swat up on this whole thing.
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We're going camping at the weekend :bounce: and there are about 80 people off this site going. I've been talking to the organiser about creating a meet for a shep but we're unsure how to do it.
Do we all have to create a meet for everyone going or can just one person create the meet and then everyone can do a meet rep about everyone else after the weekend?
Can anyone advise please??

Not sure at all but the way I understood it from that you would vouch for people rather than do it by the meet rep dunno Was thinking along similar lines for the munch.
Think I need to swat up on this whole thing.
Go to SHrep > SHrep Home > Create Meet (tab) > put the date and time of your meet/munch/social/party > add members as required (as soon as u add the first one another line will be created for the next username > when finished 'CREATE' and the meeting mails will be sent to all provided they have SHrep 'active' for them to accept.
Once they have acceted the meet it's placed in their calendar - once the date has been reached you will get a system request asking for your 'feedback'.
Is Meet Rep really the appropriate place to verify multiple attendees at a purely social event? confused FunLovers, you seem to be asking if 80 members can each create a meet, or respond to a planned social meet in a way that lets everyone of those 80 members verify the other 79 members for Meet Rep?
I'm not sure if it's possible or not, but isn't Meet Rep meant to denote something quite different? dunno Wouldn't Vouch be more appropriate, and more accurate?
N x x x ;)
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Is Meet Rep really the appropriate place to verify multiple attendees at a purely social event? confused FunLovers, you seem to be asking if 80 members can each create a meet, or respond to a planned social meet in a way that lets everyone of those 80 members verify the other 79 members for Meet Rep?
I'm not sure if it's possible or not, but isn't Meet Rep meant to denote something quite different? dunno
N x x x ;)

Well, I thought it was for some thing completely different than a social/munch and I can guarantee that anyone who comes to the munches we arrange will not be getting any feedback this way. Obviously each to their own, but personally I think it is just a way of bumping up someones feedback just for the sake of it.
However, I am enjoying using SHRep and think it can be fun, but I can also say that it will not make any difference to the way we use the site or to the way we swing. Anyone we meet is normally based on my feelings and my dealings with the person. The time spent chatting, either via the site or via phone, time spent getting to know them and will have sod all to do with what another person thinks of them. So although it is good fun, I think that for alot of us, it will just be something to play with among friends and will not impact on how we swing or make new friends.
As I understand it the vouch part is just for you to vouch for your friends on the site to let others know that their profile is genuine.
The user guide regarding meet reps states:
Meet Rep
This part of the reputation system is based purely around face-to-face meetings and absolutely nothing else. Essentially, it is used when two parties both agree to a meeting on a given date. When they have both agreed the details of the meeting either party can select to open the feature, but both parties need to agree to the details for the arranged meeting for the system to activate. The system can also be set to mail you meeting reminders, as well as allow for moving dates and times or canceling a meeting in advance.
Benefits of the Meet Rep system are:
It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system. It has a built in diary and planner and is a great way to manage your SH social calendar with other members.
The system allows for complete flexibility around dates and times providing both parties have agreed to the changes.
It ensures that random members cannot have any affect on your Meet Rep in either a positive or negative manner meaning this feature is far more effective than any others used elsewhere.
It will encourage improved communication and discourage members from simply not turning up to a meeting without explanation or notice.
As this is the only part of SHrep dedicated to face to face meetings I would say it is the only one to use for socials. We are supposed to be building a reputation for people using SHrep, and the meet rep is about meeting people face to face ... not a verification for how good someone is in the sack as they do on other sites!!
As for the 80 people attending this social, I mean 80 people in total, not 80 usernames. I would only do a meet rep for the ones I got to know over the weekend. I am not into building up peoples egos, I will not lie about anyone or vouch for anyone I do not know and would never expect anyone to do that for me!
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It will encourage improved communication and discourage members from simply not turning up to a meeting without explanation or notice.
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Except it wont because you can hide or choose not to show negative feedback cant you ?
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It will encourage improved communication and discourage members from simply not turning up to a meeting without explanation or notice.
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Except it wont because you can hide or choose not to show negative feedback cant you ?
think you have to approve it before it can displayed... so people will simply not approve the negative stuff lol
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It will encourage improved communication and discourage members from simply not turning up to a meeting without explanation or notice.
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Except it wont because you can hide or choose not to show negative feedback cant you ?
Fair one :thumbup: but its still the right one to use for a social yeah??
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Fair one :thumbup: but its still the right one to use for a social yeah??

I always assumed it was meant for people who had arranged meets as opposed to socials/munches but then I have to admit to not researching it that much..
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Fair one :thumbup: but its still the right one to use for a social yeah??

I always assumed it was meant for people who had arranged meets as opposed to socials/munches but then I have to admit to not researching it that much..
Me too Steve, and I still say I wont be doing for the Wigan Munches as I do not like the idea of people putting their names down for a munch purely to get a Meet Rep out of it, I want them to come because they are interested in attending a Munch. However the wording for the Meet Rep does say it can be used when members or groups of members arrange a meet, so it probably is the best place to do it.
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As I understand it the vouch part is just for you to vouch for your friends on the site to let others know that their profile is genuine.
The user guide regarding meet reps states:
Meet Rep
This part of the reputation system is based purely around face-to-face meetings and absolutely nothing else. Essentially, it is used when two parties both agree to a meeting on a given date. When they have both agreed the details of the meeting either party can select to open the feature, but both parties need to agree to the details for the arranged meeting for the system to activate. The system can also be set to mail you meeting reminders, as well as allow for moving dates and times or canceling a meeting in advance.
Benefits of the Meet Rep system are:
It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system. It has a built in diary and planner and is a great way to manage your SH social calendar with other members.
The system allows for complete flexibility around dates and times providing both parties have agreed to the changes.
It ensures that random members cannot have any affect on your Meet Rep in either a positive or negative manner meaning this feature is far more effective than any others used elsewhere.
It will encourage improved communication and discourage members from simply not turning up to a meeting without explanation or notice.
As this is the only part of SHrep dedicated to face to face meetings I would say it is the only one to use for socials. We are supposed to be building a reputation for people using SHrep, and the meet rep is about meeting people face to face ... not a verification for how good someone is in the sack as they do on other sites!!
As for the 80 people attending this social, I mean 80 people in total, not 80 usernames. I would only do a meet rep for the ones I got to know over the weekend. I am not into building up peoples egos, I will not lie about anyone or vouch for anyone I do not know and would never expect anyone to do that for me!

Funlovers, your interpretation of 'two', 'both' and 'either' is clearly somewhat looser than mine, but my personal opinion would be that the Meet Rep the 'two' parties give each other in the scenario you've outlined there is meaningless as far as what Meet rep is meant to denote, and could possibly be seen to be an abuse of the system? dunno confused
Vouch would be enough to signify that a profile is genuine surely?
N x x x ;)