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They are able to watch you without your knowledge if they have one of the crosses by their name but you are not allowed to kick them moonshine just because they have upgraded....
Quote by Shireen_Mids
They are able to watch you without your knowledge if they have one of the crosses by their name but you are not allowed to kick them moonshine just because they have upgraded....

Didn't really mean it to come across as if I would kick everyone with a cross (I didn't honest) redface I'm just a little frustrated because being quite new I was just starting to enjoy myself in the chatroom on cam, but I find it a bit creepy knowing someone may be hiding, surely swinging is all about consent ?... Only way I see around it is to open a room with a password....Then I'll know who's watching me....seems a shame though as I was just starting to make friends..Hugs anyway and thanks for being nice to me on my first post. biggrin
I completely understand moonshine... I find it very uncomfortable if I dont know if people are watching me or not as well hun.... kiss
I know this is going to come across as a bit silly, but I hope it makes a little sense. Firstly about the extra package and Suzie, and a quick Hi to Suzie, I know I've spoken in chat and do agree with some of the things you say, but the way I look at it, you are still a free member, the extra package as far as I can tell did not say any thing about membership, it is just what it says on the tin, to quote a previous post, it is an extras package,so technically you are still a free member, just bought a few extras. Just to go through some of the "extras" some of them are worth precisly diddly, unless you like pretty pictures and colours.
I meet people through the chatroom, and IMO it is probably better to meet people after a long chat than trawlling through ads, after ignoring the "I'm lonely can I shag you" ones. so highlighting them to me is pretty worthless. Winks are a pain I can live with, ( 20 a day or so is easily put in ignore) Priority support, o well some body goes first, i can queue, no worries. Pictures, 12 is plenty to get your message across, 250!!! what is this a porn shop?.. people only need to see what you look like smile I could add, but the its just a ramble....
The stealth cam thingy, me and the mrs have only been on cam a few times , and quite frankly , I dont give a monkeys who'swatching and who isnt, if you assume every extra member in the room is watching you then take steps to avoid, If you dont want them to kick them if its your room or dont go on cam.. but I'll add to this later. (see block cam option).
this site seems to be heading for a single male's meat market, the bone with me is the chatrooms, and i think th extra package should of dealt with this a lot more, If anybody knows me , they know I like to chat, a camera going up in a chat room kills all that. You can be in a room of 10 people chatting away quite nicely, arranging meets, somebody comes in, opens their cam, suddenly you've got 60 singles males giving it," get your tits out". any sensible chat then, is out the window. this is what really annoys me.
personally I wouldnt pay 25 quid for the extras as they are, what I would pay £25 for is
1 an Ignore button in chat, seems to be standard everywhere else.
2 you cant view my cam button, personaly that should be a standard feature.
3 if you're kicked from a room, you cant get back in for 10 mins. ( how many room owners have to kick the same person, for him to be in again the next second)
4 a room filter system, for example if i express a wish just for cpls room, single shouldn't be even able to get in, and not having to kick the same git all the time.
there a fewmore but this is turning into a hell of a long post so I'll sign off
Quote by Mal
Define paid member?
A person/people who has aided the community over a period of months/years, has organised Munchs and socials often out of there own pocket for the bennefit of other users new and old. Someone/some people who for months/years has used the photo ads section to meet other swingers in a responsible way thus enhancing the scene for everyone. A person/people whop have spent countless hours in various forums giving guidance to new and old memebers whilst at the same time creating a fun entertaining enviroment in which other members can interact. A person/people who have advised others on clubs and taken the time to arange meets at clubs or personaly meet other users at clubs sometimes at expense to themselves. A person/people who have researched dogging sites in there area/around the country and taken time to give advice to new/existing members on the subject ... I think you get the idea.
or
Twat with a credit card?
A lot of the "fee" members have "paid" their dues, supporting newbies organising munchies and being ops and moderators. The ops/mods etc should continue to have full membership at no cost IMHO to help keep this community expanding and understandable for all who wish to be part of it,
Twat with a credid card ? Bit strong, but bloody funny
Mal
biggrin lol
Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
See, this is what i dont want having just paid, free members/ops/mods bullying the admin into taking away or restricting options i have paid for.
IMO as free members they havent got a say in what option PAID members should and shouldnt have.
Veiled threats to leave etc i hope will fall on deaf ears.

The only thing I would really like to see removed for any member paid or otherwise is this Stealth Mode. I cannot see other than for rather questionable reasons why anyone would want it, and we certainly would not meet anyone that we knew used this function. I ignore winks anyway, ( a bit naff ) and all single guys are blocked. Don'tt need millions of photo's. so........
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The only thing I would really like to see removed for any member paid or otherwise is this Stealth Mode. I cannot see other than for rather questionable reasons why anyone would want it, and we certainly would not meet anyone that we knew used this function. I ignore winks anyway, ( a bit naff ) and all single guys are blocked. Don'tt need millions of photo's. so........

I agree - the Stealth thing is way too creepy and automatically delete the winks anyway.
However - I have to say a big CONGRATS on all other aspects I have seen so far on here. The free text in the profile is a Godsend!
So lads - apart from Stealth - it's a big thumbs up from me!
I don't post here much as I'm usually too busy to keep up with all the posts each day, but I use the chatroom lots and lots, this shall be a rare post smile
I've just read the whole thread (took a bit of time redface ) and have a few things to say about it all.
Firstly, the winks are a bit odd. When first introduced, I didn't realise what they were. I thought it would be the equivalent of, quite litterally, winking at someone to let them know you are online. I did it to a couple of people I know, before I realised it sends a crappy 'one liner' style message. Now I know, I shall not be using them again.
As a whole though, are they really a bad thing? It seems to me that it will simply make it easier for people to spot the timewasters. Whenever I reply to an ad, I always write a nice long letter, but rarely get a response. I always assumed that this was probably because people were tired of having 15 million crap mails and by the time they got to mine, they had started to delete them without even reading them.
Maybe an answer to this, would be not to simply have an optional block on winks, but maybe a filter. The filter could be set up so that if the message has a certain phrase in it, it is automatically deleted.
The main problem I noticed was the 'stealth mode'.
I have already chatted to a few people who are unhappy about that. It annoys me too, because I used to enjoy a face to face chat with them, but now they won't come on cam because people are hiding behind their stealth mode. I was thinking of upgrading to Extras, but now that I hear I will automatically be on stealth mode, I won't be doing it. I agree that it is a bad idea and will attract the wrong kind of people to this site.
To all the members who have objected to it...
I really do understand your concern, but are you going over the top a teeny bit? I like to know who is watching me too, but usually I don't know them and I'm sure most of the people watching you, you didn't know, nor even notice half the time. So is there a huge difference?
After people have already paid for the extras package, taking stealth away isn't an option. However, would it be possible to add the option to block stealth people from viewing my cam? You could even make this part of the extras pack.
I hope something like this can be sorted out, because I like the look of some of the options in the Extras, but I don't want to stealth, be stealthed or be treated with suspicion in the chatroom for having an extras 'x'
hi
our original point was we knowingly bought extras but unkowingly bought steath cam as a fixed option,, no where does it say ,, if u buy extras u will be on permanent stealth cam for 12 mths,,,,
alan rach xxx
a reply from admin might be nice lol
Quote by alanrachel2000
a reply from admin might be nice lol

They did reply, it was at the top of the page wink
Quote by st3v3
hi
ust to add our twopenneth
as regular users of forums and chatrooms we today added extras ,, few good items and easy to use..
however we think it should be made clear that once u upgrade to extras you automatically become stealth cam with no option to use it as normal
this may suit some people but it dont suit us we like to let people know we are viewing them or at least have the option
as far as we can work out were stuck with a stealth cam we dont want or need for the next 12 mths
if we are wrong about this could anyone tell us how to lose the stealth
many thx alanrachel2000

It should be possible to do something about that, we will have a look.
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a reply from admin might be nice lol

They did reply, it was at the top of the page wink
Quote by st3v3
hi
ust to add our twopenneth
as regular users of forums and chatrooms we today added extras ,, few good items and easy to use..
however we think it should be made clear that once u upgrade to extras you automatically become stealth cam with no option to use it as normal
this may suit some people but it dont suit us we like to let people know we are viewing them or at least have the option
as far as we can work out were stuck with a stealth cam we dont want or need for the next 12 mths
if we are wrong about this could anyone tell us how to lose the stealth
many thx alanrachel2000

It should be possible to do something about that, we will have a look.
alanrachel ............. alans nipples on stealth cam ?? ( where is the blonde has fainted emoticon ? )
Look at me without telling me and you are a dead man :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Mike7073
IAfter people have already paid for the extras package, taking stealth away isn't an option. However, would it be possible to add the option to block stealth people from viewing my cam? You could even make this part of the extras pack.

That sounds an excellent idea Mike!!
If the Xtras included EXTRA privacy options - I'd sign up immediately.
But maybe not a blanket ban on Stealth though, more a ban on specific users viewing would be preferable within Xtras. There are some people who have already signed up who I have no issues with viewing my cam. But there a some freeview and Xtra users who I would love to have the facility to exclude
I expect this maybe a bit of a biggie to introduce - and may not even be possible - but I expect this would satify a hell of a lot of people - and potentially generate more revenue for the site too!
Quote by Shireen_Mids
If you click on either Hi or Hi there then you will see the automated reply below smile

Ah thanks Shireen kiss
Should have tried it first to see what it did! (durr)
Another couple of problems - this time with the chatroom:
1) Since the new button has been introduced to allow swapping between servers whilst in chat, all chatroom text used has been resized with the spacing between lines reduced. This results in letters with tails (p, g, y etc) being truncated vertically. I've tried changing the zoom option on Flash but this makes no difference. Is this a server-based problem or is there something I need to change locally?
2) If I lose the connection to the chatroom for whatever reason, I can't get straight back in by refreshing the window. I get an error message stating that I'm still logged into the chatroom and advising me to wait 5 minutes before trying again
The second one is the biggest pain as losing connection can happen for any number of reasons and is pretty frequent at the moment.
Does this also mean we'll only be able to log into one room at a time too?
McrM4M the first 2 points have been raised by the OP's and admin are looking at it.
As for the 3rd point, yes you will have to wait 5 minutes before you can log back in. It's so your session can clear (Please dont ask me to explain thats just what Elliot told us dunno )
Shireen - many thanks for a quick response. I edited the post whilst you were replying by the look of things.
Is the session problem a temporary one that's going to be addressed? It can be from a technology viewpoint - it's just how the room has been coded that causes it. As you're aware, the chatroom stability has been a bit of an issue. Combine that with errant users kicking people when they shouldn't and the inevitable other internet connection problems and it becomes a real pain having to wait another 5 mins on top before you can get back in again.
I've also added another bit onto my edited post about only being able to access one room too - it won't now let me run multiple chat windows for different rooms. Is this a permanent "feature" too?
Thanks biggrin
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I've also added another bit onto my edited post about only being able to access one room too - it won't now let me run multiple chat windows for different rooms. Is this a permanent "feature" too?

Oh I can answer this one, I believe it is just to allow more stability for the next couple of months till we get the new coding in place biggrin
*probably talking bollox but I am trying, very trying rolleyes
Everyone seems to be talking about free members (members that had membership from when the site was free) and paying members (members paid £25 for extras) Well where the feck do we come then (Members that paid £50 earlier this year have the same stuff as free members but no extras) We personally couldnt give a toss about getting more than time served members most of us here are just looking to enjoy ourselves however that maybe. The issues are that regardless of if you pay or not the stealth mode is totally out of order and get rid. The winks in the standard format are a waste of time(read peoples profiles, most dont want 1 liners) and is a wink that you can alter when youve paid £25 not mail????.
If you want to generate revenue ask the punters what they would change about the site.......
Things that are business critical i.e. the amount of fakes (do something about)
Things that are pretty and highlight your profile(Charge what ever you can get away with)
We chose this site because the other paying sites that have been up for years and started charging as SH has have seemed to be falling away rapidly(alot of ppl we recognise from other sites appearing here). Once our £50 for STANDARD membership is up if the site does not provide what we would expect it to we will vote by going else where........ SOMEONE take note..... YOU DONT MAKE MONEY FROM UNHAPPY CUSTOMERS!!! (simple business principle)
The chatroom ops can see your cam in stealth mode but nobody moans at them biggrin
Not that i'm bothered who looks at my cam and if i can see them or not makes no difference to me, just stating a fact lol
Shaz x
ok
so now weve paid 25 quid to be blocked from watchin other cams it just gets worse
alan rachel
After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.
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After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Tracy-Jayne
I'd hate to go shopping with some of you lot - jesus you moan for England rolleyes
Quote by st3v3
After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.

Oh st3v3... I think I want your babies passionkiss
Quote by st3v3
After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.

Is this another case of the Customer being right confused:
Oh and I dont want your babies lol
phredd
Quote by Shireen_Mids
After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.

Oh st3v3... I think I want your babies passionkiss
Shireen
Are you sure?? :giggle:
Quote by Shireen_Mids
After numerous requests from Extras subscribers the Chat Stealth was disabled.

Oh st3v3... I think I want your babies passionkiss
I don't but you can have a couple of mine if you like :giggle:
hi
thank you whoever took the decision to disable stealth cam
alan rachel xx
Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is a way to search for profiles by video?
Thanks for any info.
Well done on the decision to disable the stealth thingiemebob! biggrin
Can I have a request now please??? yeah I know... always wanting my pound of flesh! rolleyes (as long as it Noels pound of fl..... redface ok, I'll stop now lol )
When I've come to put an advert on my profile I would like to choose the category "couple seeking couple" because thats what we are. I don't want to change my account to a couple one overall though I have selected the "couple" option in my profile under status. It comes up with various options but not the one we want! smile
Could this automatic selection system be changed please so we can put our advert in the correct section?
Thanks. kiss
Gem. x