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Ok, bought a new laptop recently. Prior to that used my old one in my truck with no probs.
I bought an in vehicle charger for the new one. When I tried using it it would charge for about 1 or 2 seconds then cut out. It kept doing this.
I've now tried using the mains charger which came with the laptop with a power inverter running off the 12 volt cigarette lighter type power socket (and before you ask, no, no. not the 24v socket).
It's doing the same thing.
Anyone got any ideas? Is it possibly a problem with the truck's dropper, although I don't see how it can be as I didn't have this problem with my old laptop.
Help! And quickly, 'cos in about another 20 minutes I'm going to be forcibly put into hibernation (Oh goody I can hear some thinking!). smackbottom :smackbottom:
Eeeeeeeeeek!
dunno :dunno:
sounds like the hamster needs to run faster.... or else chuck some more coal in the back...
Sorry ES, aint got a scooby.... but hopefully someone will... in the meantime.. i hope the above'll do..
AC/DC profiles settings??
Stab in the dark I'm afraid cos I am the most untechie person around!
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Stab in the dark I'm afraid cos I am the most untechie person around!
rolleyes

Pardon? :confused:
Erm Jags..............have you been eating the blackboard chalk or was it a school dinner?
Quick now someone or I'm gonna have to play with myself for the rest of the evening redface surprisedops: :oops:
:crazy:
That's a difficult one to diagnose, especially from long distance.
approaching things logically, if the same problem is occuring with both the in-car charger and the PSU/inverter combination then I think you can rule out either of those being the problem. It could be the truck's dropper (I'm no expert on vehicle electrical systems, unfortunately), but since your old laptop worked fine it's unlikely (though it could just be that the new laptop is a bit more particular about the quality of it's power supply). I take it it charges up fine using it's PSU plugged into 220V AC (a normal wall socket)?
That leaves the new laptop, and in particular the power management programs within the operating system (what is it incidentally, Windoze, Mac, or a proper OS like Linux?) Actually isolating a problem in here without access to your set up is nigh on impossible, though if you're using Windows you could fiddle around with the power management utility in the control panel and see if anything in there makes a difference.
Anyway, good luck, it sounds like you might need a bit.
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That's a difficult one to diagnose, especially from long distance.
approaching things logically, if the same problem is occuring with both the in-car charger and the PSU/inverter combination then I think you can rule out either of those being the problem. It could be the truck's dropper (I'm no expert on vehicle electrical systems, unfortunately), but since your old laptop worked fine it's unlikely (though it could just be that the new laptop is a bit more particular about the quality of it's power supply). I take it it charges up fine using it's PSU plugged into 220V AC (a normal wall socket)?
That leaves the new laptop, and in particular the power management programs within the operating system (what is it incidentally, Windoze, Mac, or a proper OS like Linux?) Actually isolating a problem in here without access to your set up is nigh on impossible, though if you're using Windows you could fiddle around with the power management utility in the control panel and see if anything in there makes a difference.
Anyway, good luck, it sounds like you might need a bit.

What he said!
wink
Quote by EagerSlut
I bought an in vehicle charger for the new one. When I tried using it it would charge for about 1 or 2 seconds then cut out.

How about you just keep unplugging it and plugging it back in every 2 seconds, until it's fully charged? biggrin
Someone rescue me pleeeeeeease!

There me thinking you needed beer again rotflmao :rotflmao: :giggle: :giggle:
From the beer :angel:
Quote by bhd1976
That's a difficult one to diagnose, especially from long distance.
approaching things logically, if the same problem is occuring with both the in-car charger and the PSU/inverter combination then I think you can rule out either of those being the problem. It could be the truck's dropper (I'm no expert on vehicle electrical systems, unfortunately), but since your old laptop worked fine it's unlikely (though it could just be that the new laptop is a bit more particular about the quality of it's power supply). I take it it charges up fine using it's PSU plugged into 220V AC (a normal wall socket)?
That leaves the new laptop, and in particular the power management programs within the operating system (what is it incidentally, Windoze, Mac, or a proper OS like Linux?) Actually isolating a problem in here without access to your set up is nigh on impossible, though if you're using Windows you could fiddle around with the power management utility in the control panel and see if anything in there makes a difference.
Anyway, good luck, it sounds like you might need a bit.

Yep it charges fine using the normal mains charger.
It's a Compaq Presario M2130EA using Windows
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If I don't reply any more you'll know why!
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Someone rescue me pleeeeeeease!

There me thinking you needed beer again rotflmao :rotflmao: :giggle: :giggle:
From the beer :angel:
No I'm not getting caught like that again! :shock: :shock:
But then again........ wink :wink:
Bless you though! kiss :rascal: :rascal:
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Not enough "amps" to drive the screen maybe. That has happened with my LCD flat screen TV =
Shot in the dark wink I am defo no Guru
Fred
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Not enough "amps" to drive the screen maybe. That has happened with my LCD flat screen TV =
Shot in the dark wink I am defo no Guru
Fred

It still does it even when the laptop's not booted!
I am no guru either but logically it sounds like a problem between the truck and the PC charger. Maybe the charger does not recognise the truck output?
McC
Have you tried it when the trucks engine is running? The power supply may not be as stable or the truck might notice the large drain and cut it off to save the batteries on the truck?
I've bought the ACanywhere 300watt version for my laptop as I'm also a trucker but yet to try it. I'll give mine a go and see what happens.
Hope it fixes itself soon! Failing that, have a word with one of the fitters in the yard they may know more on how the truck is wired.
Paul.
Well I think I might have found your problem smile, but I don't have an easy solution sad.
this page on HP's site would suggest that it's probably due to the laptop wanting more power than the 12V socket in your truck can provide.
sounds like both the charger and/or the inverter require more current than the 12v dropper can supply, most 12v droppers are limited to only a few amps.
Have had this problem when setting up radio's on trucks for charity convoys.
either that or the voltage regulator in the dropper is bolloxed have you shorted out the 12v socket by mistake at any time.
Only other suggestion is bit of cable, two croc clips and take a supply across 1 of the batteries, but make sure it's only 1 or your get 24 volts. this will only work on a temp basis, as after a while you will affect the charging of the truck batteries.
im confussed
Right, I've managed to grab a partial charge from the mains today so I'm back on line for a couple of hours! biggrin :D
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I think Sparky's the closest. Last night after I was forced into hibernation :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I got my epilator out to do some essential body maintenance redface surprisedops: :oops: and that worked fine off the inverter, so I've come to the conclusion that:
a) The in vehicle charger I bought doesn't deliver sufficient power.
b) The inverter (being only 300 watts) is not delivering enough juice either.
dunno
Does anyone know if a 1000 watt inverter or a 600 watt is likely to deliver enough?
I didn't think a laptop would use a lot of juice, but it seems the power requirements of my new one are much higher than the old one (which charged ok in the truck). The processor on this one is much much faster!
Tnx again
ES
your new laptop is actually really good on power consumption, but yep compared to the old one it probably does draw more current. you should be ok with a 600w inverter. my question is what ampage is it? i think you are going to need at least 5amps.
good luck
Rob
Quote by wrinkledprune
your new laptop is actually really good on power consumption, but yep compared to the old one it probably does draw more current. you should be ok with a 600w inverter. my question is what ampage is it? i think you are going to need at least 5amps.
good luck
Rob

The inverter I've got at the moment (300watts) has the following spec:
DC input voltage DC 10-15V
Output power 300W
Output power surge 000W
Low battery alarm 0.5 plus or minus
Low battery shutdown 10 plus or minus
High battery shutdown 15.5 plus or minus
Short-circuit protection Yes
No load current <
Alarm and thermal
shutdown 60 deg C plus or minus 5 degs C
Alligator clip fuse 35A
Cigarette plug fuse 15A
Hope that gives some clues.
I've no idea what the power requirements of this laptop are. Where the fuck do I find the spec for it? Would it be on one of the HP discs that came with it?
Tnx again
ES
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I've no idea what the power requirements of this laptop are. Where the fuck do I find the spec for it? Would it be on one of the HP discs that came with it?

Easiest place to look is on the 'web, where you can find things like the service guide (big pdf document). A brief skim through would indicate that your laptop requires a current of 3.5 amps and it's PSU provides it with , giving a power consumption of just under 65 watts ( if you want to be pedantic).
Bear in mind that neither the PSU, inverter, or in-car charger arre 100% efficient (anything but), so you'll need more than these figures suggest to allow for that inefficiency.
Quote by bhd1976
I've no idea what the power requirements of this laptop are. Where the fuck do I find the spec for it? Would it be on one of the HP discs that came with it?

Easiest place to look is on the 'web, where you can find things like the service guide (big pdf document). A brief skim through would indicate that your laptop requires a current of 3.5 amps and it's PSU provides it with , giving a power consumption of just under 65 watts ( if you want to be pedantic).
Bear in mind that neither the PSU, inverter, or in-car charger arre 100% efficient (anything but), so you'll need more than these figures suggest to allow for that inefficiency.
Thanks for that. I think you're telling me I need a beefier in vehicle charger or a beefier inverter?
What I don't understand is that the generic mains charger that came with the laptop says '65W' and the vehicle charger I bought online says 'Max 90W'
Think I'll contemplate my navel for a bit! dunno :confused:
:rascal:
yay another truck driver...
ok..its doubtful the droppers to blame
its more likely to be some power cutoff protection in your mains adaptor/charger.
you may as posted already have to get a plug in which converts the ampage to what it needs to be either boost or regulate. thing is i dont think its gonna get done tonight as it would take a technician to diagnose it safely without the risk of popping your new laptop..
some older droppers can surge slightly affecting voltage annd amp output. this is only minute but maybe your laptop is sensetive to this...
after all that i would say its a safety problem and your laptop is telling the power source to bog off...a lot like my x incidently
hope its sorted sonn
goodluck
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yay another truck driver...
ok..its doubtful the droppers to blame
its more likely to be some power cutoff protection in your mains adaptor/charger.
you may as posted already have to get a plug in which converts the ampage to what it needs to be either boost or regulate. thing is i dont think its gonna get done tonight as it would take a technician to diagnose it safely without the risk of popping your new laptop..
some older droppers can surge slightly affecting voltage annd amp output. this is only minute but maybe your laptop is sensetive to this...
after all that i would say its a safety problem and your laptop is telling the power source to bog off...a lot like my x incidently
hope its sorted sonn
goodluck

Thanks :cheers:
No it won't get sorted tonight. I'm gonna be dragged kicking and screaming into hibernation shortly (again). :shock: :shock: :shock:
Oh well! Ho hum....................now let me think what I'm gonna do instead :grin: :grin: :censored:
Thanks again to everyone who's tried to help.
ES
Quote by EagerSlut
Thanks for that. I think you're telling me I need a beefier in vehicle charger or a beefier inverter?

I'd better leave that one to the people who really know what they're doing for a recommendation, I used to fix laptops regularly, but am not an expert on providing them with adequate power, I'd to pick the brains of the electronic engineer who sat next to me when it came to that sort of thing.
Quote by EagerSlut
What I don't understand is that the generic mains charger that came with the laptop says '65W' and the vehicle charger I bought online says 'Max 90W'

That's due to the kit not being 100% efficient - the vehicle charger is supplying 65W to the laptop(when working properly), but requires up to 90W coming in in order to output that 65W, as about 30% of the energy coming into it is lost, almost all as heat.
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ES
you could go shopping for new sparklys and nail varnish
and just generaly be a TART
go on you know you wanna
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Oh ok then! lol :lol: :lol:
Footnote: When I got home today I tried the inverter in my car with the generic mains charger for my laptop. No problem, everything performed beautifully so it looks like the problem lies with the dropper in my truck.
What trucker doesnot have a problem with his dropper in his truck?
:lickface: :evil2: rotflmao :rotflmao:
truckies are grossly misunderstood..
for instance ive never been fully accepted into the trucker club....its not my fault...i try to get the belly and eat lard when i can but to no avail....
well im off to work on my new project (volvo F88 to the truckies lol )
Can anyone answer me this?
I've got the charger probs. sorted in my truck, yay! :bounce: :bounce:
However, I've just noticed that when the battery's fully charged from the vehicle (using the in-vehicle charger) it's showing about 4hrs 15mins of charge remaining (that's at 100% charged).............er..................
When I last charged it off the mains at home (and ever since I bought the laptop) it shows about 3hrs 15mins of charge remaining at 100% charged! :confused:
Am I roasting the battery with the vehicle charger? :shock: :shock: It says 'DC Output 15-21v 90W max'
My mains charger says 65W on it.
The battery is the LiLion type.
Thanks folks wink