Sort the freakin parents?

18 Aug 2007

Quote by mazandden

Then out on the streets, next thing you know, 15 year olds are giving 10 year olds baseball caps, who then promptly put them on backwards
It's a downward spiral

Sorry if I'm being dim - I don't have kids (thank Buddha, God, Shivra, Santa etc) - is the above a bad thing??
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/185791.html
m xx
Thanks, but still none the wiser - we live in a little forest village where the height of fashion is to remove the straw from your hair and hitch up your britches. confused

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18 Aug 2007

Quote by Missy

Unforuntately for a certain type of moron, they have the baby, get the house and every benefit they can squeeze out the system - the actual raising of said child isn't in their lifeplan at all
Then 5 years later, once the kid reaches school age, they'll have another one so they 'can't work'
Then of course, the bigger house once the brood gets to a size where, god forbid, they might have to share a bedroom!!!
Not generalising there, just talking about a couple of people I know who've timed their pregnancies.
The kids are then left to their own devices while the parents carry on with their lives like they're childless, giving them nothing apart from the same/worse mentality than they have
They then call themselves 'good caring parents' because they defend the kids to the hilt with the imortal line "noone touches/shouts at my kid" <with a couple of effs n jeffs peppered in the sentence to make them look more caring/moronic :roll: > - codswallop!!! They can't be arsed to discipline, which involves acutal interraction with their child, not to mention maybe a grounding, which would involve having the kids around them for any length of time!!!
Makes my blood boil - more so because these total morons have ruined the genuine cases, the many people who use/have used the system as a safety net, while they get themselves back up and running as soon as they can, regardless if it makes them 50p a week worse off for working!!! :x
Grrrrrrrrrrr!!! :x

Missy i agree with you,
But I feel for the youngens today. They, ok not all, but I do believe that life has dealt them a cycle in life that they see as the norm. I'm a strong believer in, ...............if you haven't a job or college to go to then national service would do you no harm, purely because it will keep your mind and body busy, and get the youth out of boredom and drink culture. Some not all of the young people feel useless, national service would bring pride and self asteem back and hopefully a worthyness back to them and make them feel that they really do have hope in themselves.
As for the crap parents that some of these young people have.............they should be ashamed of themselves ! evil

Your supposed to be there for them and guide them :roll:

18 Aug 2007

Quote by Lost
I've had a window broken in the front of my house twice now in the past two months. A few others in the hood have suffered this crap aswell. We all know who the culprit is and unfortunately it's an 8 year old lad. Now i have approached the Parents of this child in a pissed off but calm manner just to be told to f*ck off and leave them alone.
Ok so i would be dis-chuffed as a parent to get this sort of attention from other people but i dont think i would treat any adult coming to me with this sort of attitude.
The police have been informed of these happenings by a few people but they just send out the tired and bullshit response that, and i quote:-
'To date our investigations have failed to identify the offender. Nevertheless, we shall continue to review the matter. In the event of further developements we shall contact you again. If you learn of anything you may consider to be useful in the enquiry please contact us'.
Not of course that there are upwards of a dozen eye witnesses and the little sh*t chanting it outside peoples houses. But no the police cant identify the offender best off the guys sit in a squad car at the side of a road waiting for something profitable to the local authority to pass by.
Whatever. I think the parents should be made to do something i dont know what but something (maybe a public flogging in stocks on market day) I understand that at 8 that nothing can be done about the kid as yet really.

the other week i saw a kid from over rd...........runnin when a window smashed....council...so its auto fix.........
he came back week later to play football...i said i saw u!!!
n our greens football free all summer....

19 Aug 2007

Quote by Shaz_n_Tony
A fisherman's catapult can toss a pebble a long way..
Maybe the kids parents might do something about it if the same happened to them
Shaz x

Hey mr lostie, may i give you a loan of my fishing catapult. confused

19 Aug 2007

Quote by essex34m
It all starts in the home
Then out on the streets, next thing you know, 15 year olds are giving 10 year olds baseball caps, who then promptly put them on backwards
It's a downward spiral
(Sorry Lost, I couldnt help myself)

:lol2: at you essex :lol2: i'm gonna drag my kids out of the pub to see that post lol

19 Aug 2007

have a similar problem in this estate and i myself have a 8 year old i live on an estate with nearly 500 homes a youth club that runs 1 night a week (but only for nxt month as the building is getting knocked down) and no park or anything like that so naturally they get bored
alot of kids at the minute are going to the tip which is very dangerous but to the kids just a big playground i do agree that its up to parents to punish children accordingly and make sure they are safe etc but unless your going to keep kids indoors or in the garden then its not always easy

21 Aug 2007

Listening to Radio Bristol last night and they mentioned that in a recent survey, residents were asked questions about young people.
27% (I think) said that all those under sixteen shouldn't be allowed out after dark.
That one might be hard to enforce if local politicians etc decided to act on that!
Anyway, I was thinking back to when I worked with young people.......
If any little darling committed an act of vandalism toward our premises, assaulted staff members, or whatever! If I knew who it was or they could be identified through CCTV I always had the young person charged with a *clause* attached.
I was lucky I suppose in that I was a worker etc but it would still work as a resident if you wish to pursue it.
My clause was: I would put the charges on hold if:
1) the young person pays for the damage- I allowed installments from pocket money!
2) they helped clear up the mess or helped clear up other young peoples mess left an see how that feels.
3)attends a local youth project 2 hours a week for 10 weeks (ok i was lucky here as I ran a youth project an the sweeties got me for a whole two hours!!!) :twisted:
4) They completed youth achievements awards during those two hours, therefore actually giving back to the community in some way through this :smile:
5) They signed a behavior contract - with all the above included.
6) If this all wasn't completed the charge went ahead.
Sometimes, a young person didn't go for it or the parents thought it to harsh! Fair enough! When they did, the change in these young people was noticeable!
So, if your feeling brave (not for everyone to face the offender) when you have an issue with a young person and want something done about it. Speak to the police man who comes to visit and suggest to him that this is something you would consider and come up with your own clause. Or ask him if there is something local already happening with projects/groups/ Youth Offending Teams that this young person can be referred to etc. Then ask to be kept informed of whats happening! Its worth a try maybe?? :smile:

21 Aug 2007

Quote by anais
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:worship: :worship:
i love it! minimise the damage, allow for retribution, and recompense, while simultaneously engaging both parties in a community experiment that they, and by extension everyone around them, has a vested interest in? it's genius! smile

why is there not more of this? dunno

;)
neil x x x ;)

21 Aug 2007

Quote by neilinleeds
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why is there not more of this? dunno

;)
neil x x x ;)
Maybe cos people cant be bothered, its the way of the world these days. Youngsters are written off without given a chance. They are blamed for everything that goes wrong around them and adults moan when they become out of control.
Perhaps if their parents etc took an active interest and lobbied their local councils for places for young people to go, youth clubs, activity centres etc, got the kids off street corners and stopped moaning things might start to look up for these kids.
Rant over!

22 Aug 2007

its a nightmare isnt it.
Today the kids know the law or what part keeps them out of being detained and locked parents have the 'its never my child' or a serious attitude problem which is passed down to the child which it then take to the streets as its angry with life at home.
Some of the parents are drug takers or heavy drinkers who shouldnt have children in the first all parents are the same and some do make the effort to raise the family well but because not all can afford housing and are bunged on council estates the kids soon meet up with others who think terrorising the community is the thing to is no safe place either as knife crime is up because the weak kids are scared stiff of the bully.
Walking around with the baseball cap or hoodie over head im sure you have seen until the small hours and even while at school things i personally feel are at a level not seen before.
Ok i admit i was never a saint but if i did anything like criminal damage or cheek my neighbour id be in for it once the news got back to my knowing this made me now have internet,tv,dvd,playstation and mobile phones so punishing them to there room is no kick them out on to the street for some peace.
Kids say they are bored and this is why they get into is reason they love getting into trouble is the thrill of the police chasing them or getting the badge of honor (asbo) so they can raise the ranks within their little gang.
The only answer to break the gangs up or move them on is to beat as it may sound its the only way.
Dont be silly and go for the gang whole wait to they split up them take if it means bringing it to the parents door they will soon learn how angry people are when nice little freddy is found tied up and beaten with a note attached explaining what he's done.
Once word gets about and a few of them have had good kickings the soon move on or are looking over the is the only way.
Call it death wish or lowing yourself to the level of the mob but this is what they are and the only thing they understand is a punch to the face.
They dont happy slap in texas because they get shot and just look how other countrys deal with this sort of intimidation from whip them or give them 10 years in the bangkok hilton.
As soon as they break the law they should be classed as adults and made to parents rounded up and publicly harrassed out of the home they live them feel it back and see how they like it.
This is what you get for listening to all them softy do gooders and hoodie hugging mp's.
Trust me, beat them em down and strike fear into them.
People if you give me your vote i'll use the army and domolish the parents house with leave the young offender in stocks for as many bollock kickings as you can manage.
Together we can rid ourselves of this community eating cancer.
Anybody who doesnt vote for me will be round up and shot.
First one doherty idiot who has wasted enough tax payers money and should have been dealt with long ago.
Bring back Charles Bronson lol