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No this isn't about whether we should have them or griping about where the council sticks them etc...
Driving back from shopping today in the opposite lane of a dual-carriageway there is a speed camera at a local blackspot, and I saw it go off with someone who was bombing across the traffic lights where it is situated.
Now surely I'm not the only one here who has seen one go off on someone else, so the question is, and be honest, what was your first thought when you saw it? Was it "Ha, got you you speeding bugger", or "awww poor sod he's going to have an outgoing he didn't expect".
And yes I know, there's going to be a high level of hypocrisy here with some of the thoughts, so please no accusations.
To start the ball rolling, my first instinctive reaction today was to giggle and think "hehehehe that'll teach ya".
So what would yours have been?
My reaction would be pretty much the same as yours Peanut.
I cant feel sympathy for something that`s avoidable.
I wouldnt give a crap. We all know they are there and know the consequences if we take risks. They are there for a reason and its not only to make more dough out of drivers.
My dad got caught speeding recently rolleyes he wanted sympathy he got rolleyes sucker they usually get whats coming to them one way or the other
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I wouldnt give a crap. We all know they are there and know the consequences if we take risks. They are there for a reason and its not only to make more dough out of drivers.

I disagree, and most are not in accident black spots
So you log this sort of thing do you?
In my experience all the local speed cameras are in black spots, so to extrapolate that to the rest of Manchester I'd say you are wrong.
Chill chill chill.
Lets state our cases and allow everyone their point of view, no matter how much it may seem erroneous.
I would be laughing my socks off if a speedster got flashed.
i would laugh at them
serves them right for speeding lol
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I wouldnt give a crap. We all know they are there and know the consequences if we take risks. They are there for a reason and its not only to make more dough out of drivers.

I disagree, and most are not in accident black spots
So you log this sort of thing do you?
In my experience all the local speed cameras are in black spots, so to extrapolate that to the rest of Manchester I'd say you are wrong.
Try driving along the A1 from Edinburgh to Berwick, most are on straight lengths of road.
Sounds like the most likely place to speed to me. As far as I'm aware though, straight roads can also be blackspots too.
I've pulled many a driver out of headons that decided to overtake on a straight road only to come to grief with something coming the other way. It only takes a dip in the road or something...
Anyway, as I said in the first post, this isn't about the cameras themselves.
The thing that pisses me off about speed (i mean safety) cameras is there is rarely a speed sign anywhere before them, but usually one about 30m after it which just seems to be there to take the piss.
All speed (sorry, Safety!!!) cameras should have a clear speed indication about 50m before them and also in the camera facing the approaching car....then there wouldn't be reason to complain about getting done by one.
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There is one in Livingston like I've never seen before, it's a right sneaky fucker, it's about quarter the size of a conventioanl one, and it's at an angle and set about 20 feet in the air, it's hard to spot, and without my tomtom I'd have missed, it does have the yelloow and red m,arkings, but with it so high and so small, it;s easily missed.

It has to be said, if you were travelling within the speed limits then it wouldn't make any difference whether you spotted it or not would it?
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I wouldnt give a crap. We all know they are there and know the consequences if we take risks. They are there for a reason and its not only to make more dough out of drivers.

I disagree, and most are not in accident black spots
So you log this sort of thing do you?
In my experience all the local speed cameras are in black spots, so to extrapolate that to the rest of Manchester I'd say you are wrong.
Try driving along the A1 from Edinburgh to Berwick, most are on straight lengths of road.
actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact
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actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact

Sorry bouncy not any more. I think it was either last year or '06 that the rules changed. They no longer need to give any warning whatsoever.
One of the local councils round here, Tameside, camouflage every single one of their cameras.
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There is one in Livingston like I've never seen before, it's a right sneaky fucker, it's about quarter the size of a conventioanl one, and it's at an angle and set about 20 feet in the air, it's hard to spot, and without my tomtom I'd have missed, it does have the yelloow and red m,arkings, but with it so high and so small, it;s easily missed.

It has to be said, if you were travelling within the speed limits then it wouldn't make any difference whether you spotted it or not would it?
I do apologise St. P, I'll away and give myself 40 lashes.
Only if it's in a 50 lash zone :P
It's not piousness, it's just logic.
And for the record I speed like an SOB!
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actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact

How far before, does it need to be a certain size and does it apply to mobile vans in laybys?
(i'm currently contesting one that was hidden round a bend and i'm certain it was only a short distance from a change in speed....so any help or sources of clear fact, rues and regs would be most useful ) wink
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actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact

Sorry bouncy not any more. I think it was either last year or '06 that the rules changed. They no longer need to give any warning whatsoever.
One of the local councils round here, Tameside, camouflage every single one of their cameras.
cheeky sneaky fuckers
well guess then if ya don't want the fine don't speed simple as
i'd giggle btw
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actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact

How far before, does it need to be a certain size and does it apply to mobile vans in laybys?
(i'm currently contesting one that was hidden round a bend and i'm certain it was only a short distance from a change in speed....so any help or sources of clear fact, rues and regs would be most useful ) wink
sorry was an old fact peanut just pointed out they changed it sneaky buggers can hide um now ffs
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actually if a camera isn't clearly signed b4 it then you don't have to pay the fine
fact

How far before, does it need to be a certain size and does it apply to mobile vans in laybys?

Nope and nope.
(i'm currently contesting one that was hidden round a bend and i'm certain it was only a short distance from a change in speed....so any help or sources of clear fact, rues and regs would be most useful ) wink

So long as it's set for the correct speed in the speed zone it's in, even if it's 1m then it's legal.
The other pisser is that you can't even ask to see its calibration certificate as the law says that the police/council are not required to do so.
We'll see what my friendly legal advisor comes up with wink
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We'll see what my friendly legal advisor comes up with wink

As far as I'm aware, the only way out of it is if you can prove that the camera was faulty or uncalibrated. Which makes it a bit of a catch-22 really sad
They pretty much plugged all the loopholes when the rules were changed.
In my area of the outskirts of London, I can't think of any that are in blackspots...just on very straight roads that were once 60mph dual carriageways etc! In this area, I'd say that they are mainly money spinners!
My last speeding fine was for doing about 56mph on the motorway in an average speed check. What really got my goatie was that all my family were travelling together in a convoy of cars at the same speed...I was the one who got the fine!!?????? gggrrr!!
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In my area of the outskirts of London, I can't think of any that are in blackspots...just on very straight roads that were once 60mph dual carriageways etc! In this area, I'd say that they are mainly money spinners!
My last speeding fine was for doing about 56mph on the motorway in an average speed check. What really got my goatie was that all my family were travelling together in a convoy of cars at the same speed...I was the one who got the fine!!?????? gggrrr!!

I know how you feel. My last one was on the M6 in Cheshire at 3am doing 52 in a roadworks 40 zone. I was the only car on that stretch and no workmen... I could have crushed a friken' grape. There wasn't even a sodding flash.
And yes I'm with you, those SPECs average speed cameras are a bitch.
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How about speed cameras hidden in horseboxes on the side of the road, "faking a breakdown" in North Wales?
My ex works in the Central Ticket Office in Prestatyn, and that escapade caused a furoré

There are different rules for fixed and mobile cameras. Invariably the councils control the fixed ones and the police control the mobile/'non-fixed' ones.
Next car i get, i'm fitting tilt plates to it :twisted:
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Next car i get, i'm fitting tilt plates to it :twisted:

You just want the gold Aston Martin DB4 that comes with them, admit it! :P
someone i know got pulled "speeding" by a mobile wotzit whilst they pulled into a carpark
daftness of it was he got let off the camera said he was going 110 and if he had been, would of surely crashed/lost control of the car whilst turning into the very tight right then left turn rolleyes rolleyes
With the exception of the occasional accidental mile or two over- and when I've made a judgement call on a motorway- I don't speed. So I'd be one of the "serves you right" brigade.
One point, Hibernian, as you're keen on quoting guidelines......
Try quoting the Highway Code on Speed limits Some useful guidelines there too, which, if adhered to render your speed camera guidelines unnecessary.wink
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