I was in a chat room and the subject of a swinging culture came up.
So do we have a single culture.
I have been trying to define it ever since. The best of have come up with is that swingers reject social morality, separate, sex from love and simply enjoy pleasure when it does not hurt anyone.
What do you think?
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Orgasminator
What awayman said!
Rejecting social morality's a bit off the mark, it's just a bit different to the norm thats all. Mind you when the norms probably affairs and the like I'd say its a much better morality.
Rejecting social morality's a bit off the mark, it's just a bit different to the norm thats all. Mind you when the norms probably affairs and the like I'd say its a much better morality.
Sex God
I would rephrase the first to say we reject artificial social morality. The sort that cripples people's expression of their sexuality. But we can be very puritanical about what we define as cheating. However each individual defines it.
I have seen on here that people can be incredibly supportive of each other too. That isn't unique to Swinging, I've seen it in many environments. Maybe our relative anonymity allows a stronger expression of support and human fellowship. As well as letting the nasties feel they can get away with being horrible to people safely.
I have seen on here that people can be incredibly supportive of each other too. That isn't unique to Swinging, I've seen it in many environments. Maybe our relative anonymity allows a stronger expression of support and human fellowship. As well as letting the nasties feel they can get away with being horrible to people safely.
Quote by Kaznkev
Disagree with the first criteria, agree with the second and third.
Pretty much my for the inclusion of not hurting anyone
i said once "big pharma making billions while children die is immoral,opening your legs to strangers for pleasure is not."
Someone suggested i should put it on a t shirt but i think it would need to be in a very small font!
Oh I dunno Kaz, You have ample assets with which to include the whole message in a normal size font... :grin:
Hmm. Interesting thread.
How about opening up the discussion even further? Yes, in theory, we separate love from sex, but I know that I’ve experienced some intensely beautiful, intimate moments swinging where the connection between those I’ve been playing with has been extraordinary. Some of the things that I love about swinging are the respect, honesty, friendship, and the giving. How often do you get to give someone that you possibly don’t know very well (as well as those that you do) huge amounts of pleasure of the kind that is normally (Oo! Sorry for using that word!) reserved for more conventional committed relationships? Is it unconditional giving in a way? No, but it’s close sometimes… And of course, the receiving is important too! ;-)
So if in its simplest form, love is about respect, honesty, sharing, support, giving and receiving, can we “love” just briefly, for the moment?
Of course, I’m not suggesting for a minute that this “love” compares to the love that we feel for our long-term partners, but is it a different kind of love?
Or am I just getting carried away with too many endorphins released by lots of very, very lovely orgasms??? He he he.
How about opening up the discussion even further? Yes, in theory, we separate love from sex, but I know that I’ve experienced some intensely beautiful, intimate moments swinging where the connection between those I’ve been playing with has been extraordinary. Some of the things that I love about swinging are the respect, honesty, friendship, and the giving. How often do you get to give someone that you possibly don’t know very well (as well as those that you do) huge amounts of pleasure of the kind that is normally (Oo! Sorry for using that word!) reserved for more conventional committed relationships? Is it unconditional giving in a way? No, but it’s close sometimes… And of course, the receiving is important too! ;-)
So if in its simplest form, love is about respect, honesty, sharing, support, giving and receiving, can we “love” just briefly, for the moment?
Of course, I’m not suggesting for a minute that this “love” compares to the love that we feel for our long-term partners, but is it a different kind of love?
Or am I just getting carried away with too many endorphins released by lots of very, very lovely orgasms??? He he he.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
I think the word " love " is banded about far too easily.
And how do you feel about Swinging Culture? That being the subject of the OP - to which we are regularly instructed to stick. :giggle:
Sex God
Shouldn't forget the other, not so good, human traits that occur such as selfishness, ignorance, self-indulgence, arrogance, dishonesty. Of course thats not meant for all but its certainly there in swinging.
Quote by foxylady2209
I think the word " love " is banded about far too easily.
And how do you feel about Swinging Culture? That being the subject of the OP - to which we are regularly instructed to stick. :giggle:
Fair enough Foxy. It was just that the word love had been used many times with regard to sex with others and was mentioned a few times above.
Swinging culture?
For many they can separate sex from love but in my time in the scene I have seen many couples split, and then go off with one of the people they have had sex with. So for some they cannot separate love and sex.
That is why we do not go to clubs anymore as it is simply a means to an end. For some to just get a shag.
For others there has to be a " connection" before sex.
I would say trust is the no 1 thing in a swinging culture....the rest is secondary.
Bloody confused myself now....tired.
Sex God
Quote by foxylady2209
I think the word " love " is banded about far too easily.
And how do you feel about Swinging Culture? That being the subject of the OP - to which we are regularly instructed to stick. :giggle:
Agree with you 777. And please, lets keep the love out of swinging. In the end swinging is just a thang.
Good point Foxy. Personally I don't think there is really a specific "Swinging culture" as such. Unless we're thinking of it being mainly bell curve type thing with the top of it being White 40 year old "Christian" couple. I talk couple as I still don't think singles are swingers just facilitators for couples/groups of couples that do.
Endorphins do play a role, they rush though the body in response to sex, and we crave what we associate with that endorphins rush.
So why do swingers swing and others conform to the social norm? It can not be the surrounding culture. Everything says no to swinging.
........but once we swing and enter the scene, is there culture to support and control us?
Travis
So why do swingers swing and others conform to the social norm? It can not be the surrounding culture. Everything says no to swinging.
........but once we swing and enter the scene, is there culture to support and control us?
Travis
I disagree with the and agree with the other two. Also I tend not to prefer the word swinging as it is an idiomatic term for different activities, different levels of involvement, and different level of experiences that involve the incorporation of others into sex. For me, I find if I use the term swinging it conjures up images of a sleazy activity but if I talk about the specific activity, such as threesome, I find I get a much warmer reception. At least for me, I tend to avoid using the word swinging.
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I disagree with the first one and agree with the other two. Also I tend not to prefer the word swinging as it is an idiomatic term for different activities, different levels of involvement, and different level of experiences that involve the incorporation of others into sex. For me, I find if I use the term swinging it conjures up images of a sleazy activity but if I talk about the specific activity, such as threesome, I find I get a much warmer reception. At least for me, I tend to avoid using the word swinging.
When you say 'warmer reception' do you mean you talk about 'swinging' to non swinger.
