Hi all, No doubt you have all heard or read something by now on the swinging vicar Rev Teresa Davies and her husband Mick. We I think after reading the article we should support her and go and have our say with a comment for her. This must be a very bad time for Teresa and her family and just to know that there is support out there for her from fellow swingers would be nice. I am sure there are many of us that consider ourselves christians, but that doesnt stop us from having fun in the swinging scene and doesnt make us any less of a person/persons. So why should she feel like she is the devil in carnate just cus she wore the collar. Click on the link people and show your support for Teresa. Thank you
I'm going to move this to the Cafe because it's not related to the chat room. However, my view is that a display of public support may not be appropriate in this case. To quote from the article: "Since her personal life was revealed, Teresa has kept a low profile......" and: "Our lives have been turned upside down. I’m speaking out because I want to move on." Knowing the way the papers work, the more "support" people show, the more they'll drag it all out. Just my two-pence worth.
awhh blimming hecki wrote my reply on the other thread and was locked mid typing so didnt post lol i said,... i dont know about this case and i dont know much about religion, but i do respect everyone choices in life but i expcet those who preach something to follow what they preach. xx fem xx
now then... i was typing out a full responce to this... a bloody blinder of a post it was too. Clicking send it appeared the 'gods' were against me & I was posting in the thread that was locked. buggeration! Thats not good in the eyes of the lord either is it? hangon... i'll be back... devine intervention permitting lp
The way I see it is that it's nothing to do with personal choice of the vicar and his wife. it is all about hypocracy. I have always lived by the rule, If you join the club you must obey the rules. If you don't then you are a hypocrite. The vicar professing to be a Christian, has joined the Christian church/club and has a rule book. That rule book, according to ALL Christian churches is the New Testament. The New testament is against swinging, buggery, homosexuality etc., They broke the rules. Nuff Sed
i believe if you profess a set of social rules then you should live by them. Being a vicar and swinging is hypocritiacal. Choose one or the other I did
Quote by Sunseekercouple The way I see it is that it's nothing to do with personal choice of the vicar and his wife. it is all about hypocracy. I have always lived by the rule, If you join the club you must obey the rules. If you don't then you are a hypocrite. The vicar professing to be a Christian, has joined the Christian church/club and has a rule book. That rule book, according to ALL Christian churches is the New Testament. The New testament is against swinging, buggery, homosexuality etc., They broke the rules. Nuff Sed
She's the vicar in this case... Just doing my bit for equality!
Quote by midsprincess i believe if you profess a set of social rules then you should live by them. Being a vicar and swinging is hypocritiacal. Choose one or the other I did
You used to be a vicar????? :huh: Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There's nothing wrong with swinging, there's nothing wrong with being a christian and swinging. What's wrong is that SHE preaches the sanctity of marriage, she stands in front of hundreds and is supposed to be a role model. She could well stand as counsellor for people who need help and advice on various matters, she chose that way of life and she should really stick with it or leave, take up another job and remain swinging. I'm not saying what's she's doing is wrong, I'm not saying it's right BUT I don't agree with her doing an open interview about it all. She should be more careful in her position in my opinion and I therefore won't be 'supporting' her.
Quote by jaymar There's nothing wrong with swinging, there's nothing wrong with being a christian and swinging. What's wrong is that SHE preaches the sanctity of marriage, she stands in front of hundreds and is supposed to be a role model. She could well stand as counsellor for people who need help and advice on various matters, she chose that way of life and she should really stick with it or leave, take up another job and remain swinging. I'm not saying what's she's doing is wrong, I'm not saying it's right BUT I don't agree with her doing an open interview about it all. She should be more careful in her position in my opinion and I therefore won't be 'supporting' her.
Quote by Freckledbird There's nothing wrong with swinging, there's nothing wrong with being a christian and swinging. What's wrong is that SHE preaches the sanctity of marriage, she stands in front of hundreds and is supposed to be a role model. She could well stand as counsellor for people who need help and advice on various matters, she chose that way of life and she should really stick with it or leave, take up another job and remain swinging. I'm not saying what's she's doing is wrong, I'm not saying it's right BUT I don't agree with her doing an open interview about it all. She should be more careful in her position in my opinion and I therefore won't be 'supporting' her.
Indeedy - I'm with you, Mar. :thumbup: 3rd'd :thumbup: Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by midsprincess i believe if you profess a set of social rules then you should live by them. Being a vicar and swinging is hypocritiacal. Choose one or the other I did
Yes agree. I am no prude but if you want to be a vicar you KNOW what will happen if it comes out. The church would frown on it and their parisherners would not understand. If they wanted to do this fine, BUT they must have known the consequences of what would happen if they were caught. Sometimes you cannot have it both ways.
The trouble is with the church is we know they are full of bloody hypocrits. They seem to preach one thing, and then privatly do something completly the opposite. If I was in her shoes I would tell everyone to mind their own business, as to what I do in my private life....if only everything was so simple in life. :shock:
Quote by fem_4_taboo awhh blimming hecki wrote my reply on the other thread and was locked mid typing so didnt post lol
Quote by __random_orbit__ now then... i was typing out a full responce to this... a bloody blinder of a post it was too. Clicking send it appeared the 'gods' were against me & I was posting in the thread that was locked. buggeration! Thats not good in the eyes of the lord either is it? hangon... i'll be back... devine intervention permitting lp
Sorry 'bout that..... still using the training wheels here. I know, I know... assume the position...
Oh I think she is well cool and should be a role model for the CofE! Good on her the best thing the CofE could have is a few f*cks put into them Move the pews! We're having a gangbang..............................Hallelujah!! :bounce: :bounce: :wanker:
Quote by cu3b4ll awhh blimming hecki wrote my reply on the other thread and was locked mid typing so didnt post lol
Quote by __random_orbit__ now then... i was typing out a full responce to this... a bloody blinder of a post it was too. Clicking send it appeared the 'gods' were against me & I was posting in the thread that was locked. buggeration! Thats not good in the eyes of the lord either is it? hangon... i'll be back... devine intervention permitting lp
Sorry 'bout that..... still using the training wheels here. I know, I know... assume the position... naughty lad
Quote by __random_orbit__ hangon... i'll be back... devine intervention permitting lp
another form of completely devine intervention had me lose track of thought for things carnal... so... there was talk of ministry etc am I right?...oh what the hell! lp
Quote by varca Is she really any different to any of us here? I would like to say here that I am accepting of all views and am non judgmental of anyone whatever their beliefs and how they choose to lead their lives. And I am for the most part but with the exception of those who take on positions of responsibility and care of others yet their 'out of role' beliefs/activities could cause harm or be detrimental to others. ie A Policeman who is a BNP member. That is so wrong!
Yes she's a vicar. A vicar marries people and talks about the sanctity of marriage. A vicar is a representative of the church, a person that is supposed to uphold values such as marriage and non adultery etc etc. A policeman arrests people and upholds the law, a Policeman doesn't marry people after weeks of 'weekly classes on how a marriage will work'. A Policeman being a BNP member is completely irrelevant to the topic in question. BIG difference in my opinion.
I really don't know what to make of this case. Has she truly done anything wrong or is this just a witch hunt by the closed minded Church and community as a whole? On the one hand, she took a wedding vow to 'forsake all others' and keep herself just for her husband. She also broke one of the Commandments which sets the basis for her faith. On the other hand, she was a representative of a faith that apparently advocates forgiveness - something which her peers seem to be lacking. I've no doubt that, considering the job I do, my bosses would be horrified at what I get up to behind closed doors. Saying that, I don't see it as anybody's business but mine. My nocturnal activies have no effect on my job or my ability to do it well. I think the only thing this vicar should be rapped on the knuckles for is turning up for sermons still 3 sheets to the wind. She admits she had a drink problem but her bosses could have given her support for that ( Lord knows there must be more pissed vicars than sober ones!! ) She was silly for letting slip her and hubby's penchant for naked sunbathing and swinging but I personally don't see how their sex life can affect her doing her job.
Quote by jaymar Yes she's a vicar. A vicar marries people and talks about the sanctity of marriage. A vicar is a representative of the church, a person that is supposed to uphold values such as marriage and non adultery etc etc.
That's a good point ..............no wonder I'm confused
On the one hand, she took a wedding vow to 'forsake all others' and keep herself just for her husband. She also broke one of the Commandments which sets the basis for her faith.
What's the difference? I think the difference is that Jaymar doesnt preach every Sunday about the pitfalls of straying from a union blessed by God (or something like that)
Is she really any different to any of us here? I would like to say here that I am accepting of all views and am non judgmental of anyone whatever their beliefs and how they choose to lead their lives. And I am for the most part but with the exception of those who take on positions of responsibility and care of others yet their 'out of role' beliefs/activities could cause harm or be detrimental to others. ie A Policeman who is a BNP member. That is so wrong!
Yes she's a vicar. A vicar marries people and talks about the sanctity of marriage. A vicar is a representative of the church, a person that is supposed to uphold values such as marriage and non adultery etc etc. A policeman arrests people and upholds the law, a Policeman doesn't marry people after weeks of 'weekly classes on how a marriage will work'. A Policeman being a BNP member is completely irrelevant to the topic in question. BIG difference in my opinion. It's not that different in my opinion Mar and I am not having a go but just trying to put things into perspective but you are married to Jay and yet you swing and to quote Sassy
Quote by Sassy-Seren On the one hand, she took a wedding vow to 'forsake all others' and keep herself just for her husband. She also broke one of the Commandments which sets the basis for her faith.
What's the difference? The difference is that their marriage is a private thing. Mar is not standing up on a daily basis promoting marriage, preaching about how other people's marriages should be and, indeed, performing marriage ceremonies. Totally different in my opinion.
I'm atheist and I don't know much about religeous protocol, but doesn't the bible teach against homosexuality, and the church allows openly gay clergy? That doesn't seem to fit with the church being up in arms about this woman's private life.
Quote by Cherrytree I'm atheist and I don't know much about religeous protocol, but doesn't the bible teach against homosexuality, and the church allows openly gay clergy? That doesn't seem to fit with the church being up in arms about this woman's private life.
Correct me if I'm wrong (someone here must know more about it than I do) but wasn't the C of E kick-started by Henry VIII so he could divorce and marry another woman? Isn't that an early example of swinging?
I have no idea what she personally preaches as I have not been in her congregation. I suspect that she also talks about honesty and following God etc. (I must admit that I am at a bit of a loss as to what C of E preach as I was raised a Roman Catholic ) anyhoo... My point. I can no more judge her than I would accept being judged. I dislike hypocrisy and wouldn't say anything in any vows about 'forsaking all others' anyway, yet without being at her wedding don't know if she did this. But, like a lot of you who have said this, you are also swinging now. How many 'others' did you 'forsake' on this site ? Also for the teachers amongst you, there was a little thing called 'section 28' that Maggie twatcher in her wisdom introduced. This meant that you were not allowed to 'promote homosexuality' which left a lot of my friends the victims of bullying, yet you were going home and having sex with same sex for your own and your partner's entertainment..... mmmm hypocrisy perhaps? The Bible says a lot of things 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone' is one of my favs. She has been honest and open and I would personally sooner step through the doors of someone's church who was a human. Than attend and listen to the automatons and hypocrites that I grew up being lectured by and who slinked down from the pulpit and knobbed half of the choir boys.
If she wants to carry on with her lifestyle then she should - but she must give up her position. Thats the trouble with this country nowadays, people in high positions have the same policy - "Don't do as I do, do as I say".
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Just doing my bit for equality!
Sorry 'bout that..... still using the training wheels here. I know, I know... assume the position...
:wanker:
but you are married to Jay and yet you swing and to quote Sassy