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Quote by Cherrytree
aah Cherry, you were right again

No problem lol
Sorry you sexy minx, no you aren't. I'm just not in a position to prove it one way or the other.
I do hope you noticed though that I was gentlemanly enough to not insist that you prove you were correct?
Leave it with me and I shall attempt to narrow it down by conversing with my mate Jones the Brief biggrin
Best bit of advice (as opposed to instruction) I was given when I learned to drive was:
Don't do something that forces someone else to think and don't get yourself into a position where YOU have to think fast - there are enough problems out there.
Quote by foxylady2209
Best bit of advice (as opposed to instruction) I was given when I learned to drive was:
Don't do something that forces someone else to think and don't get yourself into a position where YOU have to think fast - there are enough problems out there.

Actually that is referred to in the Highway code (which is actually contrary to the give way to the bus signs on the back of some of them!).
I don't have a copy handy but it's along the lines of "take no action that will require another driver to slow down or change direction." I think it used to be para 120 but have no idea what it is in current versions.
Quote by Aristophanes
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.

You have to be joking right?? you never do more than 50 on a motorway... I think you need some motorway lessons, it's more dangerous to yourself and others to do below 50 sad
When I passed my test I was offered motorway lessons as my instructor said it's amazing how many people are very wary and scared of driving on motorways, but it was that hesitance that could cause serious accidents.
I think some people may have got the wrong idea about my slowing down. We are talking here about a couple of miles an hour over a mile or so. Not an immediate slamming on of brakes to a snails pace. That would be stupid, illegal and dangerous. As is deliberately preventing someone from overtaking.
But then this thread wasn't originally about overtaking it was about tailgating.
thats true but if you do not go over 50mph on a 60mph single carriageway, then sorry what do you expect? People will be pissed off and then take chances to get past you as quickly as they can. That is where tailgating happens when people usually are going too slow.
I cannot believe that you go 50mph on a motorway and then use an excuse as it saves fuel fgs. :shock:
Whilst excessive speed can kill and it does often, slow speed can also kill. I would be interested to know what the minimum speed limit is on a motorway too.
Quote by Peanut
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.

I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
There ya go T7... courtesy of Peanut
Quote by GnV
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.

I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
There ya go T7... courtesy of Peanut
I read peanuts comments GNV and do not disbelieve him at all, but I cannot find anything stating what the minimum is. I think 50 is too slow let alone 30.
Quote by GnV
A millennium ago, I had a friend who had a frog eyed sprite. He wired the brake lights to a switch on the dash and if someone got too close, he'd switch them on. A quick look to see rubber burning on the tarmac behind him as the driver braked like hell caused a feint smile!

Would have been more fun to wire the reversing lights to the switch ;-)
Quote by flower411
Why should somebody who wishes to drive at 50mph be branded a hazard ???
FFS ... no matter which way you look at it, if you are unable to accept that some people are comfortable driving at 50mph then you really shouldn`t be on the road !!!

:thumbup:
Quote by Cherrytree

Why should somebody who wishes to drive at 50mph be branded a hazard ???
FFS ... no matter which way you look at it, if you are unable to accept that some people are comfortable driving at 50mph then you really shouldn`t be on the road !!!

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Well I didn't say that for one, I said UNDER was dangerous and that driving at 50 can fail you on your driving test on a motorway
Quote by Peanut
aah Cherry, you were right again

No problem lol
Sorry you sexy minx, no you aren't. I'm just not in a position to prove it one way or the other.
I do hope you noticed though that I was gentlemanly enough to not insist that you prove you were correct?
Leave it with me and I shall attempt to narrow it down by conversing with my mate Jones the Brief biggrin
I for one would like to hear if you can find anything because I really ought to know and I've never heard of a minimum stated in any regulation.
Clearly someone driving abnormally slow in any conditions is constituting a hazard and is liable to be pulled over and possibly prosecuted but that's another thing.
I've never seen the 30mph qualification on the motorway signs but then I might not have been paying attention. wink
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There seems to be general agreement in various forums that there isn't a statutory minimum speeed limit on any roads in the UK. But the AA website displays minimum speed limit signs - a plain blue circle with a number in it (example is 30). End of the restriction is the same sign with a diagonal red line through it.

Because there is a special sign for it - and more importantly an 'end of restriction' sign - I would say that it is unlikely to be a standard limit, rather an occasional requirement.
Quote by flower411
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.

I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
There ya go T7... courtesy of Peanut
I read peanuts comments GNV and do not disbelieve him at all, but I cannot find anything stating what the minimum is. I think 50 is too slow let alone 30.
The only safe drivers on the road are those who can deal with every situation that they encounter.
If you feel the need to "tailgate" or overtake someone when it is dangerous to do so, then you are a bad driver.
If you are agressive and impatient with other road users....you are a bad driver !!
Why should somebody who wishes to drive at 50mph be branded a hazard ???
FFS ... no matter which way you look at it, if you are unable to accept that some people are comfortable driving at 50mph then you really shouldn`t be on the road !!!
But then ... we all know that when a biker is coming along a road with a 50mph limit at 120mph and the car driver misjudges the speed .....it`s always the car driver that`s at fault !! rolleyes
I guess that one was aimed at me? dunno
As I have already stated if people were that bothered to read.....Excess speed kills, as does driving too slowly. Believe me I have seen evidence of both.
Quote by noladreams30
Now in Louisiana, tailgating is something completely different!
So yes, I've been a tailgater. It was a bloody great party, my football team won, the bbq was ace and I had a brilliant day!
Geeeeeaaaaaauuuuux Tigers! :bounce:
Sorry... being a non driver I couldn't contribute properly!?!

I won't say that I thought exactly the same thing.... I am guessing your Tailgates in Baton Rouge were a lot better than ours in East Lansing..... lol :lol:
Quote by kentswingers777
thats true but if you do not go over 50mph on a 60mph single carriageway, then sorry what do you expect? People will be pissed off and then take chances to get past you as quickly as they can. That is where tailgating happens when people usually are going too slow.
I cannot believe that you go 50mph on a motorway and then use an excuse as it saves fuel fgs. :shock:
Whilst excessive speed can kill and it does often, slow speed can also kill. I would be interested to know what the minimum speed limit is on a motorway too.

What do I expect? I expect the courtesy, consideration, and good road manners that increasingly seems to be disappearing from our roads.
Try going at 50mph on a motorway 'll be amazed at how much fuel you'll save. I can get from the Black Mountains in the Welsh Marches to Upminster in Essex and back on three quarters of a tank if I keep to 50mph. The minimum speed on a motorway as Peanut rightly said earlier is 30mph. I'm sure that higher speed kills more people on a motor way than slower speeds.
I don't consider 50 mph too slow on a 60mph speed limit road. And any tailgating at that speed displays stupidity on the part of the tailgater.
Quote by jaymar
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.

You have to be joking right?? you never do more than 50 on a motorway... I think you need some motorway lessons, it's more dangerous to yourself and others to do below 50 sad
When I passed my test I was offered motorway lessons as my instructor said it's amazing how many people are very wary and scared of driving on motorways, but it was that hesitance that could cause serious accidents.
No I'm not joking. I don't need lessons in motorway driving. And I'm not a danger to myself or others. Be it on an A road or a Motorway. I am neither scared or wary on the motorway or hesitant. I think that increasingly, and sadly, people don't realise the danger of Speed. But as I said earlier, this thread was about tailgating.
Quote by flower411

Why should somebody who wishes to drive at 50mph be branded a hazard ???
FFS ... no matter which way you look at it, if you are unable to accept that some people are comfortable driving at 50mph then you really shouldn`t be on the road !!!

:thumbup:
Well I didn't say that for one, I said UNDER was dangerous and that driving at 50 can fail you on your driving test on a motorway
And nobody quoted you as far as I can see lol
I think your post was sound !!
Some people appear to be suggesting that increasing the speed is the way forward for safety !!! confused
I know I wasn't quoted, just saying kiss
I had another incident myself last night, the weather here was shocking and the roads were pitch black, I kept to 60 but some idiots preferred otherwise, it was a nightmare!
Quote by Aristophanes
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.

You have to be joking right?? you never do more than 50 on a motorway... I think you need some motorway lessons, it's more dangerous to yourself and others to do below 50 sad
When I passed my test I was offered motorway lessons as my instructor said it's amazing how many people are very wary and scared of driving on motorways, but it was that hesitance that could cause serious accidents.
No I'm not joking. I don't need lessons in motorway driving. And I'm not a danger to myself or others. Be it on an A road or a Motorway. I am neither scared or wary on the motorway or hesitant. I think that increasingly, and sadly, people don't realise the danger of Speed. But as I said earlier, this thread was about tailgating.
I do respect your reasons, I don't particularly like speed either and would never ever break speed limits for anyone, I personally think driving at 40, or 30 on a motorway is more dangerous but like I said, that's me and you are you lol
I think some people are getting a little confused with speed limits....
Speed limits are exactly that.....Limits.....
They are not targets.....
Myself I usually drive at 70mph where conditions allow on motorways as I rarely have the time to drive at 50/55/60....
On the rare occasion I have had enough time not to rush I do like to drive at 50-60 mph....
Its so relaxed and it does save fuel and every little bit saved adds up....
And I also believe the minimum speed limit on motorways to be 30mph also which is why 50cc moped and the like are forbidden from driving on motorways as most could not/cannot attain/maintain that speed....
I tend to drive at a couple of miles an hour over the speed limit. It's a fault not a boast but I don't like to hold traffic up. I slow down below that quite happily if the conditions warrant it of course. If a prat tailgates me I slow down to a couple of miles below the speed limit. If he or she (and women do it too) gets closer I slow down more, if they pull back I speed up. It's the only way I have to stop them from being a danger to me. A driver at 50 mph ahead of me is acceptable, I might tut a bit but it's not the end of the world. I do get cross at modern cars driving on an open trunk road at 45 mph though. I notice they usually don't slow down when entering a 30 mph zone either. I wouldn't dream of tailgating a slow driver though. Aggression on the road such as that is close to attempted murder.
I never fume at tractors, caravans and cyclists either because they are incapable of moving at the higher speed and the road is for everyone.
The opposite of tailgating is at traffic lights when in a limited time and each driver pulling away at about 15mph the drivers cautiously allow 50 foot between each other.
I like the brake light switch on the dashboard idea. Where can I get one?
I admit to speeding on the M'way I do 90mph ish most times if its feasible I do most of my distance travelling at night so it usually is, and to be frank if the traffic is free flowing then most it in the middle and offside lanes are doing that sort of speed. s for tailgating it is crap. I do the slow down thing and also put my hazards on if it warrants it.
Quote by Aristophanes
thats true but if you do not go over 50mph on a 60mph single carriageway, then sorry what do you expect? People will be pissed off and then take chances to get past you as quickly as they can. That is where tailgating happens when people usually are going too slow.
I cannot believe that you go 50mph on a motorway and then use an excuse as it saves fuel fgs. :shock:
Whilst excessive speed can kill and it does often, slow speed can also kill. I would be interested to know what the minimum speed limit is on a motorway too.

What do I expect? I expect the courtesy, consideration, and good road manners that increasingly seems to be disappearing from our roads.
Try going at 50mph on a motorway 'll be amazed at how much fuel you'll save. I can get from the Black Mountains in the Welsh Marches to Upminster in Essex and back on three quarters of a tank if I keep to 50mph. The minimum speed on a motorway as Peanut rightly said earlier is 30mph. I'm sure that higher speed kills more people on a motor way than slower speeds.
I don't consider 50 mph too slow on a 60mph speed limit road. And any tailgating at that speed displays stupidity on the part of the tailgater.
Consideration is a two way thing on the roads. You have admited to slowing down if someone gets too close. Some peoples interpretation of close is Highway code clearly says what you should do in that situation.
I was out on my bike this year and in my opinion was not close to the car in front. He thought I was so slammed his brakes on...nice one. As I was not that close to him I mangaed to stop before I hit him. As a motrocyclist it is def not in my interest to tailgate, as I would come off much worse if I could not stop in time. I do not suffer from tailgating on my bike as not many can keep up enough to get that close. lol
I do not agree that going 50mph on a single carriageway road that carries a 60mph speed limit, is safe. Most cars will do the speed limit on that road, and if someone is doing less than the speed limit on a single lane road, it will cause tailbacks and anger. It is the anger that causes the accidents, as people try to get past the vehicle which in their opinion is going too slow.
As a motorcyclist I see this all the time on a Sunday, when a dodderer is going 30mph in a 50mph limit. As I can overtake more easily I see the problems this causes, and I see the tailgating happen, much more in that situation. In my opinion it causes accidents in the same way someone speeding can.
I thought there was a law somewhere about keeping up with the flow of traffic? dunno
Quote by kentswingers777
I thought there was a law somewhere about keeping up with the flow of traffic? dunno

It's certainly in the highway code though I'm not sure if it's actually legislated per se. I think it may be used as a reason when being done for driving without due care and/or obstructing the highway.
Quote by westerross
I've never seen the 30mph qualification on the motorway signs but then I might not have been paying attention. wink
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Or you might just have been driving too fast so it was just a blur lol
Quote by westerross
I've never seen the 30mph qualification on the motorway signs but then I might not have been paying attention. wink
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I don't know if there's a minimum speed limit or not, always thought there was, and always thought it was 30mph
I'm pretty sure tho, that you can't take a vehicle on a motorway unless it's capaple of doing over 30mph? dunno
Cos you never see tractors or milk floats or cyclists or mopeds on motorways? :dunno:
Quote by Missy
I've never seen the 30mph qualification on the motorway signs but then I might not have been paying attention. wink
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I don't know if there's a minimum speed limit or not, always thought there was, and always thought it was 30mph
I'm pretty sure tho, that you can't take a vehicle on a motorway unless it's capaple of doing over 30mph? dunno
Cos you never see tractors or milk floats or cyclists or mopeds on motorways? :dunno:
Can anyone imagine a vehicle doing 40mph on the M1? If that is not dangerous I do not know what is.
Sorry but if you cannot or will not keep up with the flow of traffic, then maybe it could be time to take the train instead? :dunno:
The thread discussion was about tailgating. How does the speed of any driver, slow or fast have anything to do with tailgating? Or is someone using slow driving speeds as a justification for something which is borderline murderous?
Quote by ToshUK
The thread discussion was about tailgating. How does the speed of any driver, slow or fast have anything to do with tailgating? Or is someone using slow driving speeds as a justification for something which is borderline murderous?

The thread discussion evolved into what people might do when confronted with tailgating.
Quote by Cherrytree
The thread discussion was about tailgating. How does the speed of any driver, slow or fast have anything to do with tailgating? Or is someone using slow driving speeds as a justification for something which is borderline murderous?

The thread discussion evolved into what people might do when confronted with tailgating.
Exactly cherry.
The topic of tailgating is usually done when somebody will not pull over, and the driver behind gets frustrated.