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I drive a small car and can’t stand it when people get to close up behind me, anyone else ever been tailgated?
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Tailgating
Master of Sex
Loads of times ... tailgaters are the scourge of the motorways IMO. They're at best rude and arrogant assuming that EVERYONE should 'get out of their way or else' and at worst potential murderers by forcing people into impulsive, possibly dangerous manouvres with their aggressive 'push push push' attitudes.
Funnily enough, I didn't get as many when I drove my 2.5 ton Mitsubishi Delica. Or maybe I was just so high up I couldn't see the wankers!
Funnily enough, I didn't get as many when I drove my 2.5 ton Mitsubishi Delica. Or maybe I was just so high up I couldn't see the wankers!
Sex God
Yes I have.
I just move out of the way, let them go past me, and watch when the traffic cops follow them, and pull them up 1 mile down the road.
or :lol: when they get caught by the mobile speed camera.
I just move out of the way, let them go past me, and watch when the traffic cops follow them, and pull them up 1 mile down the road.
or :lol: when they get caught by the mobile speed camera.
Do you think it may be something to do with the fact that a lot of cars now have speed control?
Maybe they set a speed based on their GPS (which is generally as much as 10% higher than the indicated speed on the car's speedometer) and get frustrated when they catch up with cars travelling at the "perceived" limit?
As an example.. my car is regulated in kph. I know that I can maintain the 110kph limit here by showing an indicated speed of just under 120kph, checked against the GPS which shows 110 kph.
Maybe they set a speed based on their GPS (which is generally as much as 10% higher than the indicated speed on the car's speedometer) and get frustrated when they catch up with cars travelling at the "perceived" limit?
As an example.. my car is regulated in kph. I know that I can maintain the 110kph limit here by showing an indicated speed of just under 120kph, checked against the GPS which shows 110 kph.
Sex God
Now in Louisiana, tailgating is something completely different!
So yes, I've been a tailgater. It was a bloody great party, my football team won, the bbq was ace and I had a brilliant day!
Geeeeeaaaaaauuuuux Tigers! :bounce:
Sorry... being a non driver I couldn't contribute properly!?!
So yes, I've been a tailgater. It was a bloody great party, my football team won, the bbq was ace and I had a brilliant day!
Geeeeeaaaaaauuuuux Tigers! :bounce:
Sorry... being a non driver I couldn't contribute properly!?!
Sex God
I hate tailgaters. I'd love to have a blue light hidden in the rear window that I could flash a couple of times at the 'gaters. That'd get them backing off. LOL.
Our 'Defensive Driver' trainer at work says if you can pull in safely, do so. If not, slow down to ensure a VERY large gap between you and the car in front. Don't speed up. If he hits you, yes it's a problem, but he is 100% at fault. If you are the meat in a car sandwich, you are partially at fault and sorting out the insurance will be horrendous.
Our 'Defensive Driver' trainer at work says if you can pull in safely, do so. If not, slow down to ensure a VERY large gap between you and the car in front. Don't speed up. If he hits you, yes it's a problem, but he is 100% at fault. If you are the meat in a car sandwich, you are partially at fault and sorting out the insurance will be horrendous.
Yes! 
but I hate it also if people are too slow because they can be a danger to others also. I was doing just under 70 on the motorway yesterday, and indicated to take over someone in front who appeared to be doing 50 (you can fail your driving test for doing that on carriageways apparently).. and no sooner than I'd pulled out a car was up my arse and as it was dark and his car was higher than mine his flippin lights were blinding me.
I couldn't move back into the left lane because there was a stream of traffic so I felt forced to speed up a bit and when I glanced at my clock I was doing nearly 80 which I don't like. When I finally managed to move over he sped off doing what appeared to be in the region of 90.
Idiots :evil:
but I hate it also if people are too slow because they can be a danger to others also. I was doing just under 70 on the motorway yesterday, and indicated to take over someone in front who appeared to be doing 50 (you can fail your driving test for doing that on carriageways apparently).. and no sooner than I'd pulled out a car was up my arse and as it was dark and his car was higher than mine his flippin lights were blinding me. I couldn't move back into the left lane because there was a stream of traffic so I felt forced to speed up a bit and when I glanced at my clock I was doing nearly 80 which I don't like. When I finally managed to move over he sped off doing what appeared to be in the region of 90.
Idiots :evil:
Quote by Aristophanes
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.
That is exactly how accidents are caused.
On motorways I hate the people who go below 60mph in the middle lane, you want to do that then go into the inside lane. The problem with only doing 50mph on a motorway is that lorries will overtake you, which means they then pull out onto faster moving cars in the middle lane.
Most people will agree that nowadays 70mph is too slow on a motorway. I cannot ever imagine doing 50 on a motorway.
Quote by kentswingers777
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.
That is exactly how accidents are caused.
On motorways I hate the people who go below 60mph in the middle lane, you want to do that then go into the inside lane. The problem with only doing 50mph on a motorway is that lorries will overtake you, which means they then pull out onto faster moving cars in the middle lane.
Most people will agree that nowadays 70mph is too slow on a motorway. I cannot ever imagine doing 50 on a motorway.
Sorry Kent but I disagree with you. If I drive on an A road at 50 mph and some impatient driver comes up behind me lights flashing, horn hooting why should I get out of their way? Who the hell do they think they are that they should treat another road user in such an arrogant way. If , heaven forbid, an accident should ensue, it would not be caused by the driver in front with clear road in front them, it would be caused by the impatient arrogance of the driver behind.
I often come across drivers slower than myself. I don't crawl up their arse. I just wait until a safe spot to overtake.
When I drive on motorways I realise that others may not want to drive at 50mph so I keep to the nearside lane.
Lorries do over take sure, but its never a problem. As for speed, I don't understand why the whole world seems to be in a rush. I think we should lower our speed limits all round not increase them. Perhaps we wouldn't have such carnage when things do go wrong.
The highway code rule 168 says " Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you ".
By deliberatly slowing down so as not to let them pass, is against what the Highway code clearly says.
If you are on a 60mph single lane road and you are doing 50mph, there lies a problem maybe?
By deliberatly slowing down so as not to let them pass, is against what the Highway code clearly says.
If you are on a 60mph single lane road and you are doing 50mph, there lies a problem maybe?
Warming the Bed
Quote by Aristophanes
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.
Rule of thumb for speed for all roads as quoted from Roadcraft, The Police Drivers Manual:
"You should drive at a speed that enables you to stop in a controlled manner on your side of the road, in the distance you can see to be clear"
The IAM then adds "except where other limitations apply" recognising speed limits.
As for motorway speeds it is an offence under the road traffic act to impede traffic, a driver, driving excessively slowly on the motorway can (and have been) prosecuted for driving without due care and attention.
In previous prosecutions car drivers have been prosecuted at speeds of 18mph, 32mph, 40 mph and 50mph.
Food for thought ??
Sex God
Quote by Southglosboy33
Yes, I have to drive all day and I hate it when I've got someone tailgating, I have a big car and it's still intimidating..
And extremely distracting. Add darkness, rain and an unfamiliar road and you can end up getting killed by the guy behind you who just sails past perfectly safe.
We only have two eyes and they (generally) point in the same direction. Having to watch the car behind you more than the traffic in front and at approaching junctions makes the correct observations impossible.
One of my major gripes is people who drive with their headlights on beam, or, worse, with them set badly so one or both might as well be on beam. It is blinding and damned dangerous.
Oh, and the guy behind me on the way in to work this morning putting his tie on while we drove towards stationary traffic!!
Sex God
last sat we had a guy drivin right up our arse end with his lights on full beam on winding country lanes the glare meant hubby couldn't see where we were going in driving rain so we slowed right down (as slow as 10mph in some places) firstly to b safe but secondly to get up his nose
its damn inconsiderate of people like that do they not realise thr glare the lights create there was no need for full beam it just puts everything in shadow for the driver in front also the one driving towards you that don't dip thier lights ffs its madness ya can't see anything for a few seconds till ya eyes re-adjust, i would love to get hold of um by the scruff of thier necks n give um wat for
its damn inconsiderate of people like that do they not realise thr glare the lights create there was no need for full beam it just puts everything in shadow for the driver in front also the one driving towards you that don't dip thier lights ffs its madness ya can't see anything for a few seconds till ya eyes re-adjust, i would love to get hold of um by the scruff of thier necks n give um wat for
Quote by Cherrytree
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.
I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
Quote by Aristophanes
I have a small car. I sometimes get tailgated. I never do more than 50mph, even on a motorway. I save a lot of fuel that way. If anyone comes up behind me they can wait. And if they persist in tailgating me then I slow down a bit and they wait even longer.
That is exactly how accidents are caused.
On motorways I hate the people who go below 60mph in the middle lane, you want to do that then go into the inside lane. The problem with only doing 50mph on a motorway is that lorries will overtake you, which means they then pull out onto faster moving cars in the middle lane.
Most people will agree that nowadays 70mph is too slow on a motorway. I cannot ever imagine doing 50 on a motorway.
Sorry Kent but I disagree with you. If I drive on an A road at 50 mph and some impatient driver comes up behind me lights flashing, horn hooting why should I get out of their way? Who the hell do they think they are that they should treat another road user in such an arrogant way. If , heaven forbid, an accident should ensue, it would not be caused by the driver in front with clear road in front them, it would be caused by the impatient arrogance of the driver behind.
I often come across drivers slower than myself. I don't crawl up their arse. I just wait until a safe spot to overtake.
When I drive on motorways I realise that others may not want to drive at 50mph so I keep to the nearside lane.
Lorries do over take sure, but its never a problem. As for speed, I don't understand why the whole world seems to be in a rush. I think we should lower our speed limits all round not increase them. Perhaps we wouldn't have such carnage when things do go wrong.
Sorry mate, but don't be fooled into thinking that the driver behind is automatically at fault. This is not the case. If your actions cause him/her to have an accident then you're the one who's done for it. Slowing down unnecessarily is obstructing the highway and as such is illegal. You may think you are in the right, there may be circumstances where the driver behind is an arsehole but driving dangerously to make a point or to piss them off is both inadvisable and stupid. No driver deserves a death sentence for being a twat, even the fucker right up yer dirtbox!
Quote by Peanut
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.
I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
Ok I'm always happy to stand corrected - giz the link, then
Quote by Cherrytree
There is no mimimum speed limit on motorways, unless one is signed at roadworks, etc.
Personally I feel that anyone doing under 50 mph is a hazard, and anyone doing over 50 mph should respect other people's right to do 50, and overtake if they want to go faster.
I'm sorry Cherry, but there is indeed a minimum speed limit on motorways, it's 30mph.
Ok I'm always happy to stand corrected - giz the link, then
I take it you don't remember the old motorway signs that used to be on the entrance sliproad to a motorway stating what vehicles are allowed and which aren't. They also stated the minimum speed limit too.
Quote by Peanut
I take it you don't remember the old motorway signs that used to be on the entrance sliproad to a motorway stating what vehicles are allowed and which aren't. They also stated the minimum speed limit too.
Aaah - was that when they had a fella walking at the front with a red flag?
Was that the minimum speed limit in the old days?
Quote by Cherrytree
I take it you don't remember the old motorway signs that used to be on the entrance sliproad to a motorway stating what vehicles are allowed and which aren't. They also stated the minimum speed limit too.
Aaah - was that when they had a fella walking at the front with a red flag?
Was that the minimum speed limit in the old days?
heheheh, I'm not that old you young whippersnapper :P
This is bloody murder trying to track this down. So far I've got the Road Traffic Act 1984 (chapeter 27) S84 is relevant whereby it defines restricted roads, ie normal roads are restricted and motorways are unrestricted. Unfortunately (for me) it doesn't say what the speed limits are only what it means when speed limits apply. So it's possible it could be RTA 1962 or RTA 1974 applies, then add to that there were more amendments in 1991.
I'll admit there is a possibility that the relevant laws have been amended since I was taught Roadcraft and the relevant laws at that time (which was 1984). I don't know as I can't find anything that says it's been repealed, yet at the same time I can't find the relevant Act that says what the limits are (lower or upper). What I have found though when I was routing through the traffic laws is that there are now laws in place whereby different motorways can have different limits depending on whether a request was made by whoever makes those requests.
If you want to wade through it then...
Page 17 contains the S84 rulings. I'm not a lawyer though and I don't have time to check out the labyrinthine amendments and revisions etc etc
Orgasminator
Quote by Cherrytree
aah Cherry, you were right again
No problem
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