Long ago, in my rugby playing days, both as a schoolboy player and as a club player, watching the All Blacks perform the Hakka was a spine tingling moment. It was often seen as being almost as important as the following game itself. No All Black game would be complete without the Hakka. I've often wondered what the opposing team could do by way of reply (other than the Welsh response of walking up to the half way line and staring at them). How do you think various opposing teams could respond using some aspect of their national culture? Wouldn't it be wonderful for say, the French side, to reply by dancing a Gavotte whilst singing a chanson by Lully or Couperin? What would be your suggestions?
The Hakka is awesome, think the best tactic is to show it respect and not to show any kind of emotion. Saying that would be great if England started a Morris Dance at the same time !
I've always seen the Hakka as a macho nonsense attempting to intimidate the opposition. To stand there in silence and watch it is to demonstrate being intimidated. I would prefer the non-Hakka team to carry on warming up, throwing the ball between them and generally ignoring such posturing. But I do like the idea of the morris dancing - the US could do a nice line-dance.
probably have England singing jerusalem as they run around in their jockstraps. the scots could saw down the goal post and start tossing the caber, to Donald Where's yer Trousers. the welsh can sing, so a fine rendering of Men of Harlech. The Irish could dig up the pitch to the Sounds of Danny Boy.
The English should ride in on actual chariots of fire straight at the all blacks :twisted: Or as NZ are being all serious doing the hakka, England should stand in front of them and play pat a cake pat a cake bakers man in really camp voices :grin:
" You put your left leg in, your left leg out, in out in out you shake it all about, you do the hokey pokey and you turn around...and thats what its all about!!"
Foxylady's post above about line dancing as a response to the Hakka brought a curious image to my mind's eye. The English team could form a line and put their arms about each others' waist and then start dancing like the Tiller Girls.
i think its great to see a nation carry on a deep routed cultural ritual, i think england particularly has lost all sense of culture, what exactly could we do that has such meaning?? perhaps the scots could come on in their kilts and flash their bare arses?? or "In battles, the Celts also made use of what has been dubbed "psychological warfare." Before actually engaging the enemy, they are said to having made a horrible noise by clashing their weapons against their shields, crying and singing, with horns (carnyx) being blown and maybe drums being beaten. In the early period, these practices, together with the wild onslaught by the first lines of warriors, seems to have shocked Roman troops so that much that they simply gave way and fled from the field in fear for their lives. Also, before the actual fight, the Celtic war leaders paraded in front of their troops, performing heroic feats, proclaiming their own deeds, belittling their enemies, and challenging enemy leaders to duels. The results of these individual combats were apparently regarded as omens of the outcome of the battle" would love to see our home nations reply to the Hakka in this way
Quote by Cicero snip... Wouldn't it be wonderful for say, the French side, to reply by dancing a Gavotte whilst singing a chanson by Lully or Couperin? What would be your suggestions?
The French side do very well already with their National Anthem... it's awesome! Roughly translated, "let the blood of our enemies water the furrows of our fields.." True passion :thumbup:
Quote by Trixie_D-Lish i think its great to see a nation carry on a deep routed cultural ritual, i think england particularly has lost all sense of culture, what exactly could we do that has such meaning?? perhaps the scots could come on in their kilts and flash their bare arses?? or "In battles, the Celts also made use of what has been dubbed "psychological warfare." Before actually engaging the enemy, they are said to having made a horrible noise by clashing their weapons against their shields, crying and singing, with horns (carnyx) being blown and maybe drums being beaten. In the early period, these practices, together with the wild onslaught by the first lines of warriors, seems to have shocked Roman troops so that much that they simply gave way and fled from the field in fear for their lives. Also, before the actual fight, the Celtic war leaders paraded in front of their troops, performing heroic feats, proclaiming their own deeds, belittling their enemies, and challenging enemy leaders to duels. The results of these individual combats were apparently regarded as omens of the outcome of the battle" would love to see our home nations reply to the Hakka in this way
When you make a melting pot everything gets diluted hence that lack or mix of culture in the UK.
Quote by tweeky When you make a melting pot everything gets diluted hence that lack or mix of culture in the UK.
I disagree. My experience is that those cultures that are most under threat, particularly from the English/American language make enormous efforts to remain individual.
That Ben is actually part of the issue. Instead of people arriving in this country and mixing into the local culture they set up foundations on mass in certain areas and set up mini areas of their own culture. Its not the case for all but some areas of the UK are hardly distinguishable as the UK as it once was at all. Some of our own youth culture does not help either they seem to influenced by American culture in many ways. The melting pot was probably a bad example its more of a divder pan.
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