Innocent people have been hanged before.
People have been put away for life before. Imagine if for example Colin Stagg had his case goto trial, he would, in all probability have been found guilty, not based on the evidence at the time, of which there was little but due to the pressure the jury would have felt from the media frenzy that had been whipped up by very poor journalism at the time.
He could quite easily then have been hanged only to have found that he was in fact totally innocent later on.
This all said - I think these young bastards that take a life should have theirs taken away from them and they should automatically get a life sentance, and that should mean 'life' ie, never coming out. Afterall, death, is really too good for them, I would rather see them suffer and have plenty of time to think about what they have done.
why am I against the death penalty...
let me give you some really high profile examples..
The Birmingham Six
The Guildford Four
The Maguire Seven
Colin Stagg
All people who probably would have been given the death penalty, all cases where they were proved to be found innocent after years in prison......
so what do you since you wouldn't have been able to bring those people back..... say "oops sorry... my bad"
i know.... lets go after the people who went after them.......
it would all be madness.... the only thing an eye for an eye does, is leave the whole world blind.....
I've always been against the death penalty but if someone hurt my children I don't know weather I would be big enough or brave enough to hold that opinion.......
Dearest Members,
Within a ‘perfect world’, the penalty of death would be absolutely ‘pure’.
Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world.
We all know the influence that our Tabloid Press has within the United Kingdom & other sections of the Mass Media. This results in pressure being placed upon the Justice System:
Police & Crown Prosecution Service.
Also, if the Death Penalty was to make a return this could also become Political.
With Members of Parliament / Political Parties using this to gain popularity with the electorate.
In this country we have seen massive miscarriages of justice when this pressure has been applied which has meant that innocent people have been ‘locked up’ for over 20years..!!
What really needs to be investigated is the background for such violent crimes. For example do we as a society need to ban certain things from the Television such as:
Reality Television, perhaps?
The above example shows how any member of the public can make vast amounts of money just via ‘mouthing off’ & allowing the world to view their life. Has this created a mind-set within our society that –
‘I have the RIGHT to say anything I want because I can & you can’t do anything about it..!!’.
We have to realize that our actions have consequences. Therefore is the Media supporting this viewpoint or not?
In last year’s ‘Big Brother’ (Channel 4).
Emily said the ‘N’ word. Emily then is told that this is unacceptable & is kicked off the show.
Ziggy said the ‘N’ word. Ziggy stay’s on the show.
My point a lack of standards in our society. This then shows people that are influenced by Television, that if they are good looking & popular then they can get away with things that other less popular people can’t.
My point is that in America they have the Death Penalty (in certain states) & the
Murder Rates are increasing. Instead of investigating the cause they deal with the effect.
A society along with the criminal is also guilty of the crime.
That’s all I’ve got to say on the matter.
From,
Wunderhorse.
Dearest Members,
I was thinking more about the influence of the Mass Media especially the Tabloid Press.
A couple of weeks ago a ‘certain newspaper’ wrote an article about a ‘certain celebrity’ engaging in an Orgy during their Birthday Celebrations. Other people involved where according to this newspaper ‘fellow celebrities’.
The manner of this article was making this celebrity come across as let’s say ‘lacking morals’ & being ‘sleazy’. Yet the same Newspaper is obsessed by Sex & promotes these values within it’s pages also somehow the same paper claims to be a ‘Family Paper’?
So what is this paper an ‘18’ or ‘U’ certificate? Can’t be both….
Also, the mentioned Newspaper got it’s ‘eye wiped’ when a vast amount of people sent
E – Mail’s & Phoned in (leaving contact details) saying:
If Adults want to engage in Group Sex, then what’s the problem?
According to reports a number of people mentioned that they would not buy the paper again.
So my point is the nature of the Tabloid Press in the U.K is hypocritical in the extreme & is very dangerous due to the power of influence they have within our society. (please read my previous post on this thread).
From,
Wunderhorse.
if you are going to hold my my home town and state (New York) as a shining example... a few things you might want to know first...
.....there hasn't been a person executed in the State of New York since june 1963......the last person hanged in the UK was August 1964
the "Three stikes" rule isn't one really brought up at all in New York... that has more to do with California, and there it has been controversial because some of the "heinous" crimes that brought "strike 3" and 25 to life in prison include the following.....
shoplifting golf clubs....
stealing 9 video cassettes...
Stealing a slice of pepperoni pizza from a group of children...
and my personal fave
Stealing 4 chocolate chip cookies........
in you want a better comparison between california and the UK then california have approximately 175,000 prisoners in a system designed for 85,000
there radical solution to relieve some of the overcrowding..... releasing some of the lower category prisoners up to two weeks earlier than they would have done....
does that sound really familar???? it should do, the government got panned for suggesting the same thing last year
wtf?
Our post in here had a massive section deleted and it wasn't rude or anything, just a comment about a case in the USA, where the parents were inf avour of the death penalty for the people who murdered their son, but choose to give them life instead, so they would remember what they had done every day for the rest of their lives.
If, in the future you become a victim then i would like to hear what you have to say about the words you have written.
Rob
