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Quote by Mr-Powers
any particular reason why not?
its the mind that makes a serial killer....not the internal organs (IMHO anyways)
but i would know where they come from...if i had something from say Ian Huntly...i would feel repulsed!
and if by some slim chance the government started harvesting the organs of such people...i think it would creat a bit of a delimma...people would start insisting on where the organs have come from.
Why should they not know where the organs have come from? If your child's life could be saved by using a spleen from a child-murderer, for example, would you rather your child died than have that organ?
because at the moment organ donation is annoymous...but if they were to start coming from sick minded individuals...people may refuse such operations...slowing up the process.
Well, yes and no - organ donations are not anonymous by law, but by choice. There are many cases where organs have been donated with all parties being aware of their origins. I don't see how people refusing organs from certain individuals would slow up the process - it's a simple question on a form "tick yes or no - would you accept an organ donated from a non-human?".
If they refuse, they die quicker or their child dies quicker. What choice would you make for your loved ones?
i know my choice as for my loved ones...i would let them make the choice...they are the ones that have to live with it...
You are lucky then that all your loved ones are old enough and mentally sound enough to make the choice. I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward.
are you calling me a coward...who the fuck do you think you are saying that to me...i give my thoughts on this thread ands you fucking insult me!
I would not usually lower myself to responding a post that contains immature swearing, but I actually said "I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward." I didn't accuse you of being a coward at all.
But if the cap fits..................
Quote by SlurpySarah
any particular reason why not?
its the mind that makes a serial killer....not the internal organs (IMHO anyways)
but i would know where they come from...if i had something from say Ian Huntly...i would feel repulsed!
and if by some slim chance the government started harvesting the organs of such people...i think it would creat a bit of a delimma...people would start insisting on where the organs have come from.
Why should they not know where the organs have come from? If your child's life could be saved by using a spleen from a child-murderer, for example, would you rather your child died than have that organ?
because at the moment organ donation is annoymous...but if they were to start coming from sick minded individuals...people may refuse such operations...slowing up the process.
Well, yes and no - organ donations are not anonymous by law, but by choice. There are many cases where organs have been donated with all parties being aware of their origins. I don't see how people refusing organs from certain individuals would slow up the process - it's a simple question on a form "tick yes or no - would you accept an organ donated from a non-human?".
If they refuse, they die quicker or their child dies quicker. What choice would you make for your loved ones?
i know my choice as for my loved ones...i would let them make the choice...they are the ones that have to live with it...
You are lucky then that all your loved ones are old enough and mentally sound enough to make the choice. I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward.
are you calling me a coward...who the fuck do you think you are saying that to me...i give my thoughts on this thread ands you fucking insult me!
I would not usually lower myself to responding a post that contains immature swearing, but I actually said "I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward." I didn't accuse you of being a coward at all.
But if the cap fits..................
don't be such a smart arse I know exactly what you meant!
Quote by Mr-Powers
any particular reason why not?
its the mind that makes a serial killer....not the internal organs (IMHO anyways)
but i would know where they come from...if i had something from say Ian Huntly...i would feel repulsed!
and if by some slim chance the government started harvesting the organs of such people...i think it would creat a bit of a delimma...people would start insisting on where the organs have come from.
Why should they not know where the organs have come from? If your child's life could be saved by using a spleen from a child-murderer, for example, would you rather your child died than have that organ?
because at the moment organ donation is annoymous...but if they were to start coming from sick minded individuals...people may refuse such operations...slowing up the process.
Well, yes and no - organ donations are not anonymous by law, but by choice. There are many cases where organs have been donated with all parties being aware of their origins. I don't see how people refusing organs from certain individuals would slow up the process - it's a simple question on a form "tick yes or no - would you accept an organ donated from a non-human?".
If they refuse, they die quicker or their child dies quicker. What choice would you make for your loved ones?
i know my choice as for my loved ones...i would let them make the choice...they are the ones that have to live with it...
You are lucky then that all your loved ones are old enough and mentally sound enough to make the choice. I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward.
are you calling me a coward...who the fuck do you think you are saying that to me...i give my thoughts on this thread ands you fucking insult me!
I would not usually lower myself to responding a post that contains immature swearing, but I actually said "I would not bottle out of making tough decisions on behalf of others who couldn't make their own. I wouldn't be such a coward." I didn't accuse you of being a coward at all.
But if the cap fits..................
don't be such a smart arse I know exactly what you meant!
Come on guys...chill out!!
Lets keep it to what the original posters views were please.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
I think that the death penalty is so wrong. I can not ever see the justice in legalised murder. As to the horrific crimes and criminals that warrant these thoughts of capital punishment. To me it is worth the state expenditure to have these people pay for there crimes in time served without freedom.
I never want to be associated with the death of another whether legal or otherwise. Obviously if some atrocity was to happen to my family then my feelings would be different. Of that I have no doubt. This is why i am glad that we have a system of Law and justice that is upheld by others rather than the victims.
Law and justice sometimes do not mix. If there was a justice system where killers who got life stayed behind bars for life that is one thing, but the law allows people like the James Bulger killers to be freed after a few years, and then live their life. Oh yes and they are given new identities and money. Is that justice?
At least you have been honest to say you would think differenty if it was a member of your own family. Imagine if one of Huntleys victims was your Daughter,not yours lost but people who disagree with my views, are you still saying you would not advocate for the death penalty? If you are then I take my hat off to your for you views.
I so hope that i never get even remotely close to feeling the feelings of the victims and the families of the victims of the kind of crimes we are talking about. Without those feelings I can only go on what i think is right in the here and now. I teach my children the same and just hope that they get to have a balanced opinion using mind over emotion.
To anyone in the situation of being victim or close to a victim then I can fully understand their perspective and only nod in agreement with their sentiments while quietly holding my own. By the way my wife disagrees with me and thats good for me and good for our kids. We live with our own opinions thats only one of the reasons why i find her fascinating and gorgeous.
Quote by Lost
I think that the death penalty is so wrong. I can not ever see the justice in legalised murder. As to the horrific crimes and criminals that warrant these thoughts of capital punishment. To me it is worth the state expenditure to have these people pay for there crimes in time served without freedom.
I never want to be associated with the death of another whether legal or otherwise. Obviously if some atrocity was to happen to my family then my feelings would be different. Of that I have no doubt. This is why i am glad that we have a system of Law and justice that is upheld by others rather than the victims.
Law and justice sometimes do not mix. If there was a justice system where killers who got life stayed behind bars for life that is one thing, but the law allows people like the James Bulger killers to be freed after a few years, and then live their life. Oh yes and they are given new identities and money. Is that justice?
At least you have been honest to say you would think differenty if it was a member of your own family. Imagine if one of Huntleys victims was your Daughter,not yours lost but people who disagree with my views, are you still saying you would not advocate for the death penalty? If you are then I take my hat off to your for you views.
I so hope that i never get even remotely close to feeling the feelings of the victims and the families of the victims of the kind of crimes we are talking about. Without those feelings I can only go on what i think is right in the here and now. I teach my children the same and just hope that they get to have a balanced opinion using mind over emotion.
To anyone in the situation of being victim or close to a victim then I can fully understand their perspective and only nod in agreement with their sentiments while quietly holding my own. By the way my wife disagrees with me and thats good for me and good for our kids. We live with our own opinions thats only one of the reasons why i find her fascinating and gorgeous.
Lost you are a real find....I love you and want to have your babies
:lol: 
Sex God
Mixing a little two parts which have become apparent in this thread.
To those who are against the death penalty;
If someone like Ian Huntly needed a new kidney and he would die without it and it was found that YOU had the only possible match in the world, would you donate a kidney to Ian Huntley?
While being against the death penalty, I certainly would NOT offer him one of mine, therfore I would be condeming him to death....Tough!!!
Also, while being against the death penalty, I do not see why we should keep the likes of Ian Huntley alive. Its said he wants to commit suicide, I'd give him a noose from his cell ceiling and a rickety stool to go with it (with approbriate safety notices of course, don't want the HSE worried). The say "OK brave boy, if you want to go, bye bye" bet he won't do it.
John
To those who are against the death penalty;
If someone like Ian Huntly needed a new kidney and he would die without it and it was found that YOU had the only possible match in the world, would you donate a kidney to Ian Huntley?
While being against the death penalty, I certainly would NOT offer him one of mine, therfore I would be condeming him to death....Tough!!!
Also, while being against the death penalty, I do not see why we should keep the likes of Ian Huntley alive. Its said he wants to commit suicide, I'd give him a noose from his cell ceiling and a rickety stool to go with it (with approbriate safety notices of course, don't want the HSE worried). The say "OK brave boy, if you want to go, bye bye" bet he won't do it.
John
Sex God
Quote by Geordiecpl2001
Mixing a little two parts which have become apparent in this thread.
To those who are against the death penalty;
If someone like Ian Huntly needed a new kidney and he would die without it and it was found that YOU had the only possible match in the world, would you donate a kidney to Ian Huntley?
While being against the death penalty, I certainly would NOT offer him one of mine, therfore I would be condeming him to death....Tough!!!
Also, while being against the death penalty, I do not see why we should keep the likes of Ian Huntley alive. Its said he wants to commit suicide, I'd give him a noose from his cell ceiling and a rickety stool to go with it (with approbriate safety notices of course, don't want the HSE worried). The say "OK brave boy, if you want to go, bye bye" bet he won't do it.
John
Got to admit to agreeing with this post. I certainly wouldn't give him anything to help him stay alive; nor would I waste time saving him if he's so determined to take his own life.
Sex God
Quote by Geordiecpl2001FU*K FU*K FU*K You got me thinking hard on this.
Mixing a little two parts which have become apparent in this thread.
To those who are against the death penalty;
If someone like Ian Huntly needed a new kidney and he would die without it and it was found that YOU had the only possible match in the world, would you donate a kidney to Ian Huntley?
While being against the death penalty, I certainly would NOT offer him one of mine, therfore I would be condeming him to death....Tough!!!
Also, while being against the death penalty, I do not see why we should keep the likes of Ian Huntley alive. Its said he wants to commit suicide, I'd give him a noose from his cell ceiling and a rickety stool to go with it (with approbriate safety notices of course, don't want the HSE worried). The say "OK brave boy, if you want to go, bye bye" bet he won't do it.
John
I can't help but think you got a great point. Quote by Lost
I think that the death penalty is so wrong. I can not ever see the justice in legalised murder. As to the horrific crimes and criminals that warrant these thoughts of capital punishment. To me it is worth the state expenditure to have these people pay for there crimes in time served without freedom.
I never want to be associated with the death of another whether legal or otherwise. Obviously if some atrocity was to happen to my family then my feelings would be different. Of that I have no doubt. This is why i am glad that we have a system of Law and justice that is upheld by others rather than the victims.
Law and justice sometimes do not mix. If there was a justice system where killers who got life stayed behind bars for life that is one thing, but the law allows people like the James Bulger killers to be freed after a few years, and then live their life. Oh yes and they are given new identities and money. Is that justice?
At least you have been honest to say you would think differenty if it was a member of your own family. Imagine if one of Huntleys victims was your Daughter,not yours lost but people who disagree with my views, are you still saying you would not advocate for the death penalty? If you are then I take my hat off to your for you views.
I so hope that i never get even remotely close to feeling the feelings of the victims and the families of the victims of the kind of crimes we are talking about. Without those feelings I can only go on what i think is right in the here and now. I teach my children the same and just hope that they get to have a balanced opinion using mind over emotion.
To anyone in the situation of being victim or close to a victim then I can fully understand their perspective and only nod in agreement with their sentiments while quietly holding my own. By the way my wife disagrees with me and thats good for me and good for our kids. We live with our own opinions thats only one of the reasons why i find her fascinating and gorgeous.
Then you are a very lucky guy...good luck to you.
Quote by Geordiecpl2001
Mixing a little two parts which have become apparent in this thread.
To those who are against the death penalty;
If someone like Ian Huntly needed a new kidney and he would die without it and it was found that YOU had the only possible match in the world, would you donate a kidney to Ian Huntley?
While being against the death penalty, I certainly would NOT offer him one of mine, therfore I would be condeming him to death....Tough!!!
Also, while being against the death penalty, I do not see why we should keep the likes of Ian Huntley alive. Its said he wants to commit suicide, I'd give him a noose from his cell ceiling and a rickety stool to go with it (with approbriate safety notices of course, don't want the HSE worried). The say "OK brave boy, if you want to go, bye bye" bet he won't do it.
John
Oh please.....someone give him the rope....not a dry eye in the house!!
but do you not feel that this gives them an easy way out, and denies proper justice or closure for the families of the victims
....most (I would imagine, but Im not saying for definate) want some long term suffering for the and a proper life sentence in a proper jail (as in my sheriff joe post
and not some place where the cons can do college courses, read, play sports and games, have days out, watch films and so on.
If there was a proper punishment alternative to the death penalty, maybe numbers who are pro deat would change
and FWIW, I wouldnt p!ss on Ian Huntley if he was on fire, much less give him one of my kidneys!
....most (I would imagine, but Im not saying for definate) want some long term suffering for the and a proper life sentence in a proper jail (as in my sheriff joe post
and not some place where the cons can do college courses, read, play sports and games, have days out, watch films and so on.
If there was a proper punishment alternative to the death penalty, maybe numbers who are pro deat would change
and FWIW, I wouldnt p!ss on Ian Huntley if he was on fire, much less give him one of my kidneys!
Sex God
Quote by Bonedigger
but do you not feel that this gives them an easy way out, and denies proper justice or closure for the families of the victims
....most (I would imagine, but Im not saying for definate) want some long term suffering for the and a proper life sentence in a proper jail (as in my sheriff joe post
and not some place where the cons can do college courses, read, play sports and games, have days out, watch films and so on.
If there was a proper punishment alternative to the death penalty, maybe numbers who are pro deat would change
and FWIW, I wouldnt p!ss on Ian Huntley if he was on fire, much less give him one of my kidneys!
I think a prison sentence should be non-negotiable, so no early release for 'good behaviour'
Whilst in custody, they should have all but the basics withdrawn and they should be made to work at something. I must admit to liking Sheriff Joe's way of running a prison! They aren't there to live comfortably; they are incarcerated as punishment for a crime committed. The sentence should be a deterrent. Quote by Freckledbird
but do you not feel that this gives them an easy way out, and denies proper justice or closure for the families of the victims
....most (I would imagine, but Im not saying for definate) want some long term suffering for the and a proper life sentence in a proper jail (as in my sheriff joe post
and not some place where the cons can do college courses, read, play sports and games, have days out, watch films and so on.
If there was a proper punishment alternative to the death penalty, maybe numbers who are pro deat would change
and FWIW, I wouldnt p!ss on Ian Huntley if he was on fire, much less give him one of my kidneys!
I think a prison sentence should be non-negotiable, so no early release for 'good behaviour'
Whilst in custody, they should have all but the basics withdrawn and they should be made to work at something. I must admit to liking Sheriff Joe's way of running a prison! They aren't there to live comfortably; they are incarcerated as punishment for a crime committed. The sentence should be a deterrent.amen to that!!
Sex God
Quote by LondonPlaythingGather them in mosquito nets and then feed them to kittens?
string them up
tenderise them with sticks
burn them
eat them!
sorted
I haven't read the thread.... I shall go back and have a peek now....
Sex God
3 lads recently got 'life' for killing the father (I forget his name) on the street. The youngest is 16, he got minimum 12 years. That is not life, and while I accept he may well be kept in longer than that I feel that if life doesn't mean you come out dead then it should at least mandate to age 70, or 20 years if you are already 70.
How hard can it be to stop drugs getting into prison? As hard as banning all face to face visitors and putting any drug-trafficking staff straight into the cells. So drug users should be got off drugs before being released no matter how long it takes.
How hard can it be to stop drugs getting into prison? As hard as banning all face to face visitors and putting any drug-trafficking staff straight into the cells. So drug users should be got off drugs before being released no matter how long it takes.
Quote by foxylady2209
3 lads recently got 'life' for killing the father (I forget his name) on the street. The youngest is 16, he got minimum 12 years. That is not life, and while I accept he may well be kept in longer than that I feel that if life doesn't mean you come out dead then it should at least mandate to age 70, or 20 years if you are already 70.
How hard can it be to stop drugs getting into prison? As hard as banning all face to face visitors and putting any drug-trafficking staff straight into the cells. So drug users should be got off drugs before being released no matter how long it takes.
yep, tis the same for the murderers of James Bulger.....10 when they commited the crime, let out whilst still in their teens....what sort of punishment is that
:x :x :x Sex God
Quote by foxylady2209
3 lads recently got 'life' for killing the father (I forget his name) on the street. The youngest is 16, he got minimum 12 years. That is not life, and while I accept he may well be kept in longer than that I feel that if life doesn't mean you come out dead then it should at least mandate to age 70, or 20 years if you are already 70.
How hard can it be to stop drugs getting into prison? As hard as banning all face to face visitors and putting any drug-trafficking staff straight into the cells. So drug users should be got off drugs before being released no matter how long it takes.
I have always wondered the same.
Sex God
Im a great believe in the saying "what goes around, comes around"!!
If people want to go around Muredering/killing innocent people.. May it be from kids to the Ipswitch prostitutes for no reason then be prepared to get an early grave yourself!!
But no... they stick them in a prison with pool tables, sky tv and a job!! With whose money?? The tax payers!!
Bring Back The Death Pentaly
If people want to go around Muredering/killing innocent people.. May it be from kids to the Ipswitch prostitutes for no reason then be prepared to get an early grave yourself!!
But no... they stick them in a prison with pool tables, sky tv and a job!! With whose money?? The tax payers!!
Bring Back The Death Pentaly
Ok from the mouth of a victim!
Yes me i was a victim of child abuse and was by my next door neighbour for three years from the age of 10 to 13 i wasn't the only one.
My prison cell has been huge i have been through hell and back and it has been on emotional rollercoaster even now i can never understand the why or the where fors.
As for my attacker nothing was ever done about it not enough evidence.
Should he die for what he did at the time i would have said yes.
How do i feel now? scared about writing this and in tears but hay it's a cross i shall bare, for me the closure is this hear right now openly admiting what happen, i personal could'nt/wouldn't kill because if he is dead i have no answers as to why? why me? what did i do? also if he's dead hes free were as i'm still trapped in my prison.
i really do hope this makes sense cause it has taken me ages to write and i have deleted it a few time.
It so easy to talk about taking a life. But in the long run in the years to come it may be a regretfull thing to do.
Punish them yes, put them through hell just like i and others was but killing them is to easy they only suffer for a short time my suffering is endless
Yes me i was a victim of child abuse and was by my next door neighbour for three years from the age of 10 to 13 i wasn't the only one.
My prison cell has been huge i have been through hell and back and it has been on emotional rollercoaster even now i can never understand the why or the where fors.
As for my attacker nothing was ever done about it not enough evidence.
Should he die for what he did at the time i would have said yes.
How do i feel now? scared about writing this and in tears but hay it's a cross i shall bare, for me the closure is this hear right now openly admiting what happen, i personal could'nt/wouldn't kill because if he is dead i have no answers as to why? why me? what did i do? also if he's dead hes free were as i'm still trapped in my prison.
i really do hope this makes sense cause it has taken me ages to write and i have deleted it a few time.
It so easy to talk about taking a life. But in the long run in the years to come it may be a regretfull thing to do.
Punish them yes, put them through hell just like i and others was but killing them is to easy they only suffer for a short time my suffering is endless
Sex God
Shite! what can one say. I think its a brave move opening up and telling people, sometimes a first step on a longer journey. If you haven't done so please go get counselling I am a total advocate in the good it can do and it is never to late.
Your points re:- death penalty are made poignant by this and respect is due.
Your points re:- death penalty are made poignant by this and respect is due.
Quote by Lost
Shite! what can one say. I think its a brave move opening up and telling people, sometimes a first step on a longer journey. If you haven't done so please go get counselling I am a total advocate in the good it can do and it is never to late.
Your points re:- death penalty are made poignant by this and respect is due.
Thank you lost yes have done the counselling but thats only half the battle, which for me i would say would be made worse if the said person was given the death penalty cause he is then free, were as there are times it's a stuggle for me to even wake up,
If you was to look at my book case you would think i was some really strange freak with all the self help book etc
but it helps and so does the mirror Garfield :wherethefeckisthatbughugemote:
A good friend of mine suffered something very similar. Her bedroom was firebombed (she was in it) in an attempt to stop her giving evidence. Not wanting to go into too many details, but the bastard got off for reasons which today would be seen as atrocious. It affects every aspect of her life, every day.
Likewise with someone else I know- it's shaped his relationships with people and left him with huge weight on his shoulders he-and his family-feels everyday.
I applaud your bravery.
A good friend of mine suffered something very similar. Her bedroom was firebombed (she was in it) in an attempt to stop her giving evidence. Not wanting to go into too many details, but the bastard got off for reasons which today would be seen as atrocious. It affects every aspect of her life, every day.
Likewise with someone else I know- it's shaped his relationships with people and left him with huge weight on his shoulders he-and his family-feels everyday.
I applaud your bravery.
Quote by winchwench
Garfield :wherethefeckisthatbughugemote:
A good friend of mine suffered something very similar. Her bedroom was firebombed (she was in it) in an attempt to stop her giving evidence. Not wanting to go into too many details, but the bastard got off for reasons which today would be seen as atrocious. It affects every aspect of her life, every day.
Likewise with someone else I know- it's shaped his relationships with people and left him with huge weight on his shoulders he-and his family-feels everyday.
I applaud your bravery.
Should read my earlier post about convictions or being let off on " unsafe " evidence, when we all know people are guilty!!
another very different set of opinions.
Its a tough balance handing down a sentence which is the right one.
We shout sometimes dont we, when on the news you hear about someone getting a short stay in prison for a nasty crime.
I can still remember how people like huntly and shipman paraded in front of the cameras behaving like they had done nothing its that sort of behavior that chills me.
I also remember dennis Nielsen and the horrible things he did to others.
Who can forget the yorkshire ripper yet we keep these people locked up in luxury and surely that cannot be right.
For me If the death penalty was to be imposed a person would spend time locked up while a review body went over everything in the case.
Then another totally independent review board would again look at the case.
If then and only then the evidence was 100% that person should be put to death.
The wishes of the victims family must be taken into consideration and they would have the power to reduce the sentence to life without parole if they so wished.
Of course evidence can be tempered with and people fitted have seen miscarriages before and they are regrettable.
but when its the huntly's,shipman's and Nielsen's of the world can we not save the tax payers money and rid ourselves of these monsters?.
Thanks for all your comments.
Its a tough balance handing down a sentence which is the right one.
We shout sometimes dont we, when on the news you hear about someone getting a short stay in prison for a nasty crime.
I can still remember how people like huntly and shipman paraded in front of the cameras behaving like they had done nothing its that sort of behavior that chills me.
I also remember dennis Nielsen and the horrible things he did to others.
Who can forget the yorkshire ripper yet we keep these people locked up in luxury and surely that cannot be right.
For me If the death penalty was to be imposed a person would spend time locked up while a review body went over everything in the case.
Then another totally independent review board would again look at the case.
If then and only then the evidence was 100% that person should be put to death.
The wishes of the victims family must be taken into consideration and they would have the power to reduce the sentence to life without parole if they so wished.
Of course evidence can be tempered with and people fitted have seen miscarriages before and they are regrettable.
but when its the huntly's,shipman's and Nielsen's of the world can we not save the tax payers money and rid ourselves of these monsters?.
Thanks for all your comments.
Quote by tyracer
another very different set of opinions.
Its a tough balance handing down a sentence which is the right one.
We shout sometimes dont we, when on the news you hear about someone getting a short stay in prison for a nasty crime.
I can still remember how people like huntly and shipman paraded in front of the cameras behaving like they had done nothing its that sort of behavior that chills me.
I also remember dennis Nielsen and the horrible things he did to others.
Who can forget the yorkshire ripper yet we keep these people locked up in luxury and surely that cannot be right.
For me If the death penalty was to be imposed a person would spend time locked up while a review body went over everything in the case.
Then another totally independent review board would again look at the case.
If then and only then the evidence was 100% that person should be put to death.
The wishes of the victims family must be taken into consideration and they would have the power to reduce the sentence to life without parole if they so wished.
Of course evidence can be tempered with and people fitted have seen miscarriages before and they are regrettable.
but when its the huntly's,shipman's and Nielsen's of the world can we not save the tax payers money and rid ourselves of these monsters?.
Thanks for all your comments.
You would not be able to keep them locked up for too long...it will of course affect their human rights. ffs
When you think it costs on average 4 grand a week to keep the likes of the Ripper and Huntly in prison, whilst the rest of us can only dream about having that kind of money spent on us!!Those kind of people deserve exactly what they showed their victims.....NOTHING AT ALL !!!!
Sexlightened
This is a very sensitive subject to delve into, but I believe with the justice system we have today and the science behind the crimes means that some form of death penalty should be introduced for some crimes.
However can you convict a person for killing another with say his car? What I mean is you have a young driver showing off with his mates in his new car, likely he's just passed, but he is within the speed limit. He isn’t paying attention and hits a child and kills them. We hear this every day and we always blame the young driver "He's a young lad with friends in the car, must have been driving too fast etc. He should be strung up"
Now take the same conditions but an elderly driver, who's never, had an accident in his life he loses concentration for a second say turning over to RADIO 2 and he kills a child.
Both drivers not concentrating, both kill a child using a vehicle in there control.
Some cases just can’t warrant the death sentence, even when we say life should mean life in either taking another’s life or life imprisonment. Sometimes an accident resulting in death is just that an accident and the person that caused the child’s death has to live with that, but try explaining that to the family and friends of the small child that was killed for just a moment of irresponsibility. It’s a very sticky subject to delve into on a Wednesday morning.
Going off subject a little what about other forms of old punishments deemed against human rights.
Why not public stocks or even flogging, for petty crimes such as car theft, retail theft etc. I for one think that perhaps some of these old way should be reintroduced in some way as well as the normal hours served as community service, why not a dose of public humiliation?
However can you convict a person for killing another with say his car? What I mean is you have a young driver showing off with his mates in his new car, likely he's just passed, but he is within the speed limit. He isn’t paying attention and hits a child and kills them. We hear this every day and we always blame the young driver "He's a young lad with friends in the car, must have been driving too fast etc. He should be strung up"
Now take the same conditions but an elderly driver, who's never, had an accident in his life he loses concentration for a second say turning over to RADIO 2 and he kills a child.
Both drivers not concentrating, both kill a child using a vehicle in there control.
Some cases just can’t warrant the death sentence, even when we say life should mean life in either taking another’s life or life imprisonment. Sometimes an accident resulting in death is just that an accident and the person that caused the child’s death has to live with that, but try explaining that to the family and friends of the small child that was killed for just a moment of irresponsibility. It’s a very sticky subject to delve into on a Wednesday morning.
Going off subject a little what about other forms of old punishments deemed against human rights.
Why not public stocks or even flogging, for petty crimes such as car theft, retail theft etc. I for one think that perhaps some of these old way should be reintroduced in some way as well as the normal hours served as community service, why not a dose of public humiliation?
Sex God
SlurpySarah, I must agree with you. We have locked up serial killers, who will, if released probably kill again, they are just a burden. We also have serial criminal who make life hell for their victims, and will when released return to their old ways. For all of the above, let us remove them cheaply and effectively from society. Where possible harvest anything useful.
Failing that dump them on an island and let them prey on each other.
Now I do not say all murders are going to kill again. Those that have just gone wrong once do not deserve the death penalty.
Travis
Failing that dump them on an island and let them prey on each other.
Now I do not say all murders are going to kill again. Those that have just gone wrong once do not deserve the death penalty.
Travis
