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The Definative Swinger

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Sexy fun with someone/others who you're not in a relationship with. All done with mutual consent and respect for boundaries and limitations.
Psssst - it's definitive!
swinging to me, is a meeting of people who enjoy good conversation, socialising and safe, sexual pleasure with others without any commitment or judgement.
think thats right?
I personally have no idea what makes you a swinger lol i dont like the phrase and would be more than happy not to be classed as one :lol:
I always wondered if it was because you use the internet for sex, if your a single meeting a single off here that makes you a swinger but if you pick someone up in pub it don't? dunno
I'll be keeping my eye on this thread tho because it'll be interesting to read peoples views smile
Quote by flower411
Sexy fun with someone/others who you're not in a relationship with. All done with mutual consent and respect for boundaries and limitations.
Psssst - it's definitive!

psst I know lol I wanted to make sure that you could join in !! wink
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Bloody liar!
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Sexy fun with someone/others who you're not in a relationship with. All done with mutual consent and respect for boundaries and limitations.

Ooooh, I like that FB. Very inclusive! This is something I have struggled with in the past actually, as being a single on the site often I feel somewhat of a fraud to actually label myself a swinger. I guess I am guilty of equating swinging with 'wife swapping' or other couple-centric terms... even though I know that is waaaay too limiting in terms of what goes on.
I'm waffling, I'll shut up. rolleyes But I do like that definition!
Nola x
Quote by Freckledbird
Sexy fun with someone/others who you're not in a relationship with. All done with mutual consent and respect for boundaries and limitations.

yep :thumbup:
I think what I like about swinging is that it's what you want it to be.
Some couples never play together, some never play apart and so on - it's all about whatever floats your boat. I like Freckled Bird's definition anyway biggrin
swingers every one has they own i dear but here is mine .Sexual Freedom gives individual adults the right to negotiate their sexual encounters
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So, the question is.....
What IS swinging ?

Dont know but I'll let you know when Ive swung, swang swinged???...plucked up courage lol
You need to be married and willing to commit organised adultery.
Singles are free to do what they want. Unmarried partners are not commiting adultery.
Where people are in a relationship and assume the roles and values of married people, they may entertain the idea that they are swinging, but really they are just having organised sex, which they are already at liberty to do so. It involves all the same mechanisms, but is without the 'commitment'.
Quote by duncanlondon
You need to be married and willing to commit organised adultery.
Singles are free to do what they want. Unmarried partners are not commiting adultery.
Where people are in a relationship and assume the roles and values of married people, they may entertain the idea that they are swinging, but really they are just having organised sex, which they are already at liberty to do so. It involves all the same mechanisms, but is without the 'commitment'.

I think that anyone who is in a relationship where they assume the roles and values of married people, would definitely argue that there is commitment.
Quote by Freckledbird
You need to be married and willing to commit organised adultery.
Singles are free to do what they want. Unmarried partners are not commiting adultery.
Where people are in a relationship and assume the roles and values of married people, they may entertain the idea that they are swinging, but really they are just having organised sex, which they are already at liberty to do so. It involves all the same mechanisms, but is without the 'commitment'.

I think that anyone who is in a relationship where they assume the roles and values of married people, would definitely argue that there is commitment.
I agree. You don't have to marry someone to betray them, so the commitment is as real as if the little bit of paper had been signed already.
So partners who aren't married can swing.
I agree with you both. Any relationship is based on some kind of commitment. But you need to be married to commmit adultery. Which I think is at the heart of swinging.
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I agree with you both. Any relationship is based on some kind of commitment. But you need to be married to commmit adultery. Which I think is at the heart of swinging.

I may be misunderstanding you... ae you saying that adultry is at the heart of swinging?
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I agree with you both. Any relationship is based on some kind of commitment. But you need to be married to commmit adultery. Which I think is at the heart of swinging.

I may be misunderstanding you... ae you saying that adultry is at the heart of swinging?
yes.
Quote by duncanlondon
I agree with you both. Any relationship is based on some kind of commitment. But you need to be married to commmit adultery. Which I think is at the heart of swinging.

I don't agree with you. I don't feel that swinging is purely 'committing adultery with permission' - well it is for some, who are in the right situation for that to be true. But I don't feel that is THE definition.
It is many things to many people. But I think there are two elements that make swinging different from 'sex with other people'. It often involves more organisation than picking someone up or shagging your best friend cos you are both up for it, and (within the swinging community) there is a lot of openess among the group that sex is an inherent part of the social scene, not a hoped-for addition if we play our cards right.
Because of those factors, I feel that single people can swing just as well as couples.
***These are my opinions and not intended as a factual statement or to imply others are wrong in their opinions.***
Cambridge Online Dictionary gives this definition of adultery:
'sex between a married man or woman and someone who is not their wife or husband'
So, strictly speaking you are correct Duncan. However, I think the word has negative connotations - in the swinging world, though, consensual adultery is the norm, wouldn't you agree?
I think Foxylady's theory is prevalent because we have a much more visible sex scene now then in previous decades. With such a multi dimensional scene its easier to apply a variety of labels to as many varieties of people. Its equally irrelevent as well, as in most cases labels aren't required. Which equally means there is no requirement for a definition.
But looking back to the origins and the characteristic 'wife swapping' tags etc. It was rooted in organised adultery.
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Cambridge Online Dictionary gives this definition of adultery:
'sex between a married man or woman and someone who is not their wife or husband'
So, strictly speaking you are correct Duncan. However, I think the word has negative connotations - in the swinging world, though, consensual adultery is the norm, wouldn't you agree?

Ooh errr miss. Its gone to dictionaries, gulp (trying to find an emoticon with beads of sweat)....
I'm not sure if consensual is any different to bog standard adultery. Or is it just a way to take the edge off the word. And yes the word is not popular. But its where I draw a line to make my definition.